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Tablet Mac Becomes Reality 276

teknokracy writes "MacMod has a story about a unique Mac hack. Joseph DeRuvo Jr. says: 'As a Photographer and a Dyslexic the idea of being able to use a Tablet as a platform for showing photographs, editing, and an extension of my badly organized memory is very appealing. ... So taking matters into my own hands I cut into a Dual USB iBook and didn't look back.' It seems our intrepid hardware hacker hasn't just flipped around the LCD and added a semi-functioning touch screen - he's completely engineered a new kind of mac portable, complete with a CF reader, properly installed touch sensor, and topped it all off by properly engineering it all into an Ives-worthy design. With all the trouble these particular iBook models have experienced, why not hack one up for fun and turn it in to something useful?"
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Tablet Mac Becomes Reality

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  • Sweet hack! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by IO ERROR ( 128968 ) <error@ioe[ ]r.us ['rro' in gap]> on Sunday December 12, 2004 @12:02PM (#11066437) Homepage Journal
    Sweet Hack! One thing concerns me, though: he had to remove the keyboard. How in the world does he type on this thing?
  • Tablet PC (Score:3, Interesting)

    by FiReaNGeL ( 312636 ) <fireang3l.hotmail@com> on Sunday December 12, 2004 @12:05PM (#11066455) Homepage
    To me the real market of Tablet PCs have always been Mac users : they love cute, functional stuff, are often designers / artists / scientists... But Apple probably doesn't think its worth it. If only they were not this expensive... I would get one in an heartbeat.

  • TabletPC = Bad idea? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by elh_inny ( 557966 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @12:07PM (#11066472) Homepage Journal
    I don't how many will agree but I'd never buy a TabletPC if I had other options.
    What I like about laptops is that when it's closed, the LCD screen is protected.
    Whether it's coding or writing a novel keyboard is still the way to go.
    TabletPC is a Microsoft marketing strategy, but to me it's in beta stage as the technology such as handwriting a voice recognition is simply not ready yet, it works sometimes but not good enough for production environment.
  • by embsysdev ( 719482 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @12:24PM (#11066569)
    Toshiba has one with a swivel screen. Thus, protecting the screen and it has a keyboard.
    http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmo d.to?coid=- 26373&sel=0&rcid=-26367&ccid=1291021&seg=HHO&sel=1 &src=AMEM&WT.srch=1

    Judging from the specs, I bet Linux would run fine on it. I don't own one (yet) but they appeal to me because it would be great for graphic editing and web browsing -- especially when used in the laptop configuration where you can type and touch hyperlinks on the screen.
  • Re:Tablet PC (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pben ( 22734 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @12:40PM (#11066652)
    The first thing that Steve Jobs did when he returned was to kill the Newton. We all know that Jobs never makes mistakes, so if it uses a "pen" it will not have a Apple logo on it.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 12, 2004 @01:10PM (#11066799)
    The RF stylus our Compaq tablet PC had made it impossible to get the context menu at all. The locating system the tablet used was not precise enough to locate to a single pixel where the stylus was resting, so the pointer would jump back and forth between two pixels and never rest long enough in one to get the menu. The problem got worse over time, and eventually we gave up on using tablets for our particular application.
  • by sabNetwork ( 416076 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @01:38PM (#11066933)

    Mac OS X would be much better on a tablet than Windows.

    1. the system is designed to be used with a one-button mouse, so the "right-click dilemma" doesn't exist
    2. everything is huge-- the fonts, the icons, the buttons--and hard to miss with your pen
    3. the menus at the top of the screen would require very little precision to access

    Apple should license Mac OS X to a tablet PC manufacturer. (Producing it themselves would be too risky.

  • by theolein ( 316044 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @01:50PM (#11066985) Journal
    I know that the idea of a tablet Mac has been discussed to death and even rebirth, it's been around so often, but the sheer amount of interest in a tablet mac, one with that special Apple touch and attention to detail garners such an enormous amount of interest every time it's mentioned that I seriously wonder why Apple hasn't decided to take a risk and Just Do It(TM).

    The fact that not only is TFA's server /.'ed, but also the mirrors and the fact that almost every second user created prototype on Mac fan sites is a tablet or PDA style device shows that the interest certainly is there. An Apple Tablet could have a design and features that would finally make the tablet concept kick off, since it's an utter niche product on the Windows side of things.

    Think about it. What could Apple do to make people want a Tablet and what would its target market be? My ideas, by no means perfect, would be:
    1. A device that is bigger than current PDA's but smaller than current Windows Tablets, i.e. somewhere around ISO A6 size, or just a bit bigger than the old Newton. This would make it easier to hold (current Tablets are too heavy and too big to hold in one hand while writing with a Pen) and at the same time have enough space for a useful interface and space to sketch on for artists.
    2.Very good handwriting recognition. This is important. I think they were getting there when they killed the Newton.
    3.An OSX variant with a simplified interface which is more geared towards using a Pen. This would mean perhaps larger controls and a Dock replacement, perhaps a sliding Dock so that necessary apps are within easy reach.
    4.A touch screen that enables users to use their fingers as well as a pen. (Therefore the larger controls)
    5.Wireless videoand audio streaming. I know Apple has been working on a protocol that is supposed to be good for video streaming. This would or could perhaps tie in with other Apple products such as the iPod and Airport Express where this Tablet could be used as a remote control. This is why being able to use it with one's fingers would be important.
    6.Other software and hardware tie ins with Apple products and software, such as the ability to use it as a monitor on movie sets with firewire or usb connectivity, or a cut down version of FCP or iMovie that allows one to cut small video clips. Perhaps a small paint application as well, or a sound editor.
    7.It should be shipped with applications that leverage the platform such as a simple sketching application for students and artists, a Apple writing application that makes taking notes as easy or easier than WinXP TE's note taker. Perhaps make the sharing of sketches and notes and media simple via Rendezvous.
    8.Apple should make Frameworks for this OS variant available in XCode in order to allow developers to come up with nifty applications as they have for the classic OSX. Java should be included as well to make it interesting for current mobile developers.
    9.The target market would be students for artwork and note taking, home consumers for its tie in with Airport Express and iTunes and the iPod, industrial users for use as a digital notepad and checklist, and enterprise users for its note taking and sketching abilities and the ability to make presentations.

    This is all a wet dream of course, but I think I'm not alone in wishing for a Tablet with that special Apple touch.
  • Re:Sweet hack! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Lycestra ( 16353 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @01:57PM (#11067026)
    The engine was named "Rosetta"

    proof that Mac OS X has the same engine, the easter eggs from the Newton still work on Mac OS X.

    A friend who has more consistent handwriting than I showed me. Write out Rosetta 3 times, and you will get "Rosetta Rosetta Hey, that's me!" Same thing happened on the Newton.
  • Re:What trouble? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by FuzzieNorn ( 203503 ) <fuzzie&warpedgames,com> on Sunday December 12, 2004 @02:21PM (#11067145) Homepage
    'quick, free fix'? Hah! My G3 iBook logic board failed about once a month for the last 9 months or so.. I got it in November 2002, first failure was in late 2003. They kept replacing the board for free, only for it to fail again a month later. 'temporary hack', perhaps, but not 'fix'.

    Mind you .. phoned them up last time it failed and asked if they'd replace it (hadn't asked before because I didn't want to be without the iBook, and they were giving me 3-day turnarounds on the repairs), they took one look at my repair history and agreed, and I'm now typing on a brand new 1.2ghz iBook G4.

    Admittedly my history is much worse than all the other iBook owners I know who own machines from the serial number range, but most of them have had at least one logic board failure. Note that the serial number range covers *years* worth of the iBook models, it's not just a single batch.
  • Re:Sweet hack! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by photoworkplace ( 839658 ) <joseph@photoworkplace.com> on Sunday December 12, 2004 @02:47PM (#11067264)
    I am a Photographer not an author, I don't need something that is a replica of a typewriter, I need some thing that lets me work with images. inkWell, Bluetooth keyboard, and on screen keyboard form TouchStrokes all work fine for me.
  • ugly? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by oojacoboo ( 839655 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @03:23PM (#11067454) Homepage
    that black thing is a cover and puts the system to sleep when it is closed! and it opens up and is used as a stand! Its perfect, what are you talkng about?
  • by melted ( 227442 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @04:05PM (#11067667) Homepage
    That would be, ahem, _copying_ innovations from Redmond (and don't start the usual BS about Newton, notice that _Tablet_ PC has a _tablet_, not a touch screen). And it's morally hard to copy your competitor's innovations when you blast them at every trade show for copying your own. So mark my word, there will never be a Tablet Mac, except if Tablet PCs become a wild, raging commercial success that's too tough even for Jobs to ignore.
  • It's been a pleasure (Score:3, Interesting)

    by photoworkplace ( 839658 ) <joseph@photoworkplace.com> on Sunday December 12, 2004 @04:24PM (#11067759)
    My first goal was to build a "Tool" that would do what "I" needed, and it has served me well, yes it is a bit thicker than I would like, but I can still not find a Tablet Slate out there that has a Flash Card reader and is able to burn CDs. Both of these things are important for what I do being a Wedding Photographer and teacher. I am looking to update the original post at MocMod with detailed photos of the work as it was in progress. Secondly, and maybe more importantly was the goal to get Mr. Job's attention, although he has not gotten in touch with me yet, I have not given up hope. Why do I want his attention? What would I say anyway? The same thing I had said in a letter 13 years ago to Mr Kaplan at The Go corporation (the people who brought you PenPoint) you might not even remember them, but it was a beautiful idea. At any rate I went on about how the Technological revolution was leaving some people out and how their design idea would open up the possibilities to have varied groups of people (who are too often disenfranchised) join into the conversation. All of you people are the "more" some of you are the "different" there have been many great strides made in these 13 years, but I am still waiting, because "I THINK MORE CAN STILL BE DONE". I am a faithful person I say Thank God I have been able to do what I have done so far. I was unable to speak intelligibly until I was 5 years old, my parents had been told that I was "mildly retarded", but I am faithful that Miracles happen and that things can change. I would like to see more people have the opportunities to change their lives due to the technology that is available to them. Thank you all and God Bless Joseph DeRuvo Jr.
  • by RzUpAnmsCwrds ( 262647 ) on Sunday December 12, 2004 @04:41PM (#11067827)
    "Microsoft now license the original software for us on the Pocket PC."

    The Transcriber handwriting recognition on the Pocket PC is a modified version of Calligrapher, from PhatWare. It was not developed by Apple.

    The block recognizer is based on Graffiti licensed from Xerox. The letter recognizer is based on Jot licensed from CIC, the same company that developed Graffiti 2.
  • by inkswamp ( 233692 ) on Monday December 13, 2004 @01:05AM (#11070242)
    I wonder what the legality is of this guy starting up a small business to mod iBooks this way and resell them?

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