Filesystem Problems with the Treo 650s 289
Kaisa Tarasov writes "It turns out PalmOne's new Treo 650
is shipping with a major problem that's causing first adopter users and
developers to cancel
their orders in droves. The new Treo, along with the Tungsten T5,
utilizes a new FAT based
nonvolatile file system. Not only is the new system much slower, as
the data has to be loaded into a SDRAM chip before running, but in this
filesystem PalmOne switched from using directly addressable storage, to
storage addressed
in 512 Byte blocks. This has caused many files to swell in size - up
to 500% in some cases (such as the address book). Users,
already flustered with the small 23 MB of available memory, when trying
to sync their old data onto the new device are discovering that their
old data does not fit on the new Treo. What does PalmOne do?"
I know, I know! (Score:5, Funny)
File for bankruptcy?
thanks for replying, PalmOne. (Score:0, Funny)
What do we do?..... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:ARGH (Score:4, Funny)
FAT (Score:5, Funny)
What does PalmOne do? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I know, I know! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:What do we do?..... (Score:3, Funny)
Bad testing all round... (Score:4, Funny)
At least Palm isn't alone:
- How could the original Nokia nGage get into consumer's hands with the game cartridge located UNDER the battery?
- Why didn't Motorola figure out that their beautiful smart flip phone had to run for more than an hour or so on a charge?
The list goes on...
Simple... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:FAT [Off-Topic] (Score:5, Funny)
Another day I have heard screams in computer room. I went there just to find my friends literally laughing to death. They were trying thru laughing point to the screen of WinXP with error message.
As soon I have taken a look at screen - I have joined them laughing to death under table.
"Invalid MS-DOS function"
For sure, we had over-reacted, due to couple of M$ Zealot who tried to persuade development department that WinXP is complete rewrite of Windows from scratch. And it has nothing to do with MS DOS.
As a person who switch to Linux & Apple long time ago I find bit fuzzing insistence of some companies on using technology from 80s. If you haven't noticed, all external hard-drives are shipped formated with FAT.
No-one yet came out and proposed read-write file system for hard-drives supportable by all OSs. File systems are not standard - I'll love to see OpenGroup/POSIX/ISO having standardize some file system in order for interoperability between OSs. Just like it was done for CD/DVD media.
P.S. Message in our case was showed when one guy tried to delete file with name 'nul' with Explorer. Who remember DOS times - it is reserved name which is presumably impossible to give to a file. Some tools do allow to create/delete files with such name under WinNT/friends.
Re:What do we do?..... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Do Do (Score:1, Funny)
You say you consider the Tungsten C the "penultimate" PDA?
As you must know since you used the word, the word "penultimate" means "next to last." The Tungsten C is the next to last PDA?
If you really think the Tungsten C is the next to last PDA that will ever be manufactured, then pray, do tell us, which PDA do you think will be the LAST one ever manufactured, and why?
Do you have some inside knowledge on an impending Skynet-like event which will prevent the future manufacture of any PDAs?
Geez, and to think, I had started to LOSE faith over the LOOSE usage of language on slashdot.
Thanks for coming along and restoring my
Re:Ouch! (Score:5, Funny)
It was Joey, in the Conference Room, with the Marketing Plan:
"How can we drive up sales of the memory cards," inquired Philo, VP of Marketing, "and make room for XML, AFU, and the TLA host?"
"Well, my broker is E.F. Hutton, and he says," all eyes on Joey "that FAT is all that."
Bipperton Fusslebeak could wait no longer: "But that's so inefficient! What are we, the government? We can't just pick people's pockets like that! You'll kill the product!"
Philo responded calmly: "I don't even know why Engineering shows up at Marketing meetings. I'm a little surprised the relocating of your position to Bangalore didn't affect your attendence, Mr. Fusslebeak. You looked surprised...received you not the memo? Engineering does such a poor job of communicating with its...people. Joey, your ideas, and your bonus, are splendid..."
</clue moment>
Re:an excellent product (Score:1, Funny)
I work for Verizon, and I've never heard someone complain about loose battery connectors on the Palm. The battery is internal and very secure. I've replaced several after being dropped. Not a one had trouble with the power. Just what problem are you talking about?
As the the "loose data" part, I have no clue what you're trying to say. What would make the data not tight? There's an SD card slot, but I've never heard of anyone having trouble with it. It's not even required to use the phone. Just what do you mean by data that isn't tight?
Re:he is absolutely not a troll (Score:3, Funny)
and the only problem with my car is that it gets six miles to the gallon and that it stalls out on the highway all the time. Oh, yeah, those and that it's pig ugly. Otherwise I like it fine.