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One-Watt Wireless Radio Modem Reaches 40 Miles 240

maxstreampr wrote in to plug their radio modem. It's the size of a credit card, one watt, and can transmit 40 miles line of sight or 3000 feet indoors. Something about using the AT command set to fire off a command 40 miles through the air amuses me.
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One-Watt Wireless Radio Modem Reaches 40 Miles

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  • by LazyPhoenix ( 773952 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @04:49PM (#10249870)
    makes me think of riding around in the AM radio days and going silent when going under an overpass.
  • by ARRRLovin ( 807926 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @04:53PM (#10249912)
    What kind of antenna did they use? "High gain" isn't all that descriptive.
  • Speed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Archangel Michael ( 180766 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @04:53PM (#10249919) Journal
    The speeds indicated look too slow to be useful except for remote low overhead / slow data acquisition stuff.

    9600 baud is pretty darn slow, even with compresion.
  • MaxStream RF modem (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mknewman ( 557587 ) * on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @04:55PM (#10249936)
    Anyone notice the 9600 baud bit rate? Marc
  • by Chuck Bucket ( 142633 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @04:59PM (#10249979) Homepage Journal
    I'd never heard of this, but after some reading: Wireless over modems [hp.com] it's out there, and well supported. I can see it being a less touchy solution in that it's old school analog, but 40 miles? THat's hard to believe.

    CBSD
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:00PM (#10250006)
    For what it's worth, I once used a 5 watt HF radio to contact the Canary Islands from Atlanta, GA. The signal was not strong, but we had no trouble carrying on a brief conversation. RF is pretty amazing stuff when the conditions are right.
  • by lukewarmfusion ( 726141 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:00PM (#10250008) Homepage Journal
    ...for those of us lucky enough to live close to Chicago (I'm just over 100 miles away), we can continue to experience the wonderful long-range AM radio while we listen to Pat Hughes and Ron Santo cover the Cubs game on radio 720.

    It comes in great on my car, but hardly at all on any of my other radios. Of course, there are a few spots I avoid because they kill the reception. I'll even drive five miles out of the way just to avoid that patch.
  • by Aggrajag ( 716041 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:05PM (#10250056)
    Our radiolinks (which are like wi-fi) were sending line-of-sight transmissions, 9600 baud, with about 3 milliwatts. I cannot remember the frequencies we used but they were in the microwave range so I'm not sure it's comparable with the radiomodems mentioned in the article using 900 MHz band. Cool stuff anyway!
  • no time penalty (Score:5, Interesting)

    by airConditionedGypsy ( 703864 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:06PM (#10250061)
    From the article:

    No time penalty is incurred during AES encryption or decryption.

    That's pretty interesting. Perhaps they meant to say that there is no additional processing overhead beyond that which is introduced by performing the full number of rounds for a 256 bit key in hardware.

    It seems you still need a shared secret. I assume it isn't doing any authenticated Diffie-Hellman to establish a session key.

    Sorry, it's just kind of irritating when you hear things like "security through encryption." Great. You get integrity protection and data confidentialy while the data is in trasit. There are many other opportunities for an attacker to get your data besides when it's flying around in mid-air.

  • by the_2nd_coming ( 444906 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:23PM (#10250212) Homepage
    is the world flat?
  • by leighklotz ( 192300 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:25PM (#10250230) Homepage
    In ham radio, there's a 1000 miles per watt [qrparci.org] award that's not particularly hard to get....I made 1842 miles per watt [wa5znu.org] (Palo Alto, California to Sakhalin Island in Russia) using a data modulation called PSK-31 [wa5znu.org] and a wire antenna on my roof, and just over 1000 miles per watt [wa5znu.org] from San Luis Obispo, CA to Estonia using CW [netwalk.com]: 5700 miles with 4.5 watts to a 28 foot wire thrown from a second-story window into a small tree, running on a pack of AA batteries.
  • by javaxman ( 705658 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:26PM (#10250239) Journal
    From TFM :
    * Up to 3000 feet range (Indoor/Urban environments, @9600 RF data rate)

    We're talking about this thing for what reason?

    CmdrTaco, please, drink some Jolt and wake up. That's twice in one day you've made me want to smack you around for wasting my time. 9600 baud? Really, why would we want to use this?

    To compare this to 802.11b, they have what looks like a version [maxstream.net] that operates in the 2.4GHz band, guess what? 1500ft range, at 9600 baud.

    While I'll admit this thing might have some very specific uses, like remote data collection where you don't have a lot of data, but you want it delivered at regular intervals over a distance where it'd be hard to put in relays or run a real link... but the damn thing costs more than $400 [google.com], so if you *can* use 802.11g instead, you'll probably want to!

  • Distant Horizon. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by DunbarTheInept ( 764 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:29PM (#10250266) Homepage
    On earth, the horizon is about 5 miles away if you are in a totally flat plain or ocean, and you're eyes are 6 feet up off the ground. Stand on top of a 100 foot tower and the horizon becomes 36 miles away. So, what planet is this 40-mile line of sight transmission designed for?
  • by Sleuth ( 19262 ) * on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:31PM (#10250287) Homepage
    Sounds like it would be easier to go pick up a couple used Richochet modems on ebay. 128kbps and 1 mile line of sight out of the box. USB interface and all. Linux has the network drivers already.
  • Re:Ad Dot (Score:3, Interesting)

    by funkdid ( 780888 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @05:51PM (#10250433)
    Geekdom is becoming more and more mainstream every day. Ask a 16 year old about *Insert what used to be something only us computer geeks knew about*. Look about the number of registered /.'ers. It keep growing and fast. You know how many people I've turned on to /., many of them arent' even tech savy. They still check it everyday, and each month a higher percentage of the articles peak their interest, slowly but surely they start learning and the articles mean more to them. Before you know it they ask me "Hey did you see that article on arstechinca last week?"!
  • Re:Friends of SCO (Score:3, Interesting)

    by weston ( 16146 ) <westonsd&canncentral,org> on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @06:39PM (#10250810) Homepage
    The Canopy Group has a set of office buildings in Lindon that has great connectivity. SCO occupies one of them, and some Canopy companies occupy others, but the rest are rented out to other companies, one of which I work for, which have nothing to do with SCO, and are happy about that.
  • by chris234 ( 59958 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @06:52PM (#10250906)
    GPRS here in the States starts at around $20 a month for unmetered service. And people say we're behind the times here.....
  • by smnolde ( 209197 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @09:14PM (#10251873) Homepage
    Here's a nice link that might explain it:

    packetradio.com [packetradio.com]

    By comparing the small bandwidth of PSK31 and measuring its gain against a CW filter of 500 Hz; 10 * log (500/31) dB = 12 dB, quickly reveals that a CW transmitter must put out 15 to 18 times more power than a PSK31 transmitter, just to achieve the same signal to noise ratio at the receiving station. This is the reason the PSK31 operating mode has gained so much popularity in such a very short period.

    I work PSK31 occasionally and have worked Europe easily with 50W or less. It's not magic, and the band conditions are horrid as we're in a soloar minimum. If i get up early enough I bet i could work Asia. Not bad for being in southeast Arkansas.

    I can't wait in a few years when the sunspot cycle is on the way up again and we're able to work across the world on 5W or less easily.

    PSK31 is a fantastic mode to work and it's easy to pick up DX contacts.

    KD5ZEF

  • by tiger99 ( 725715 ) on Tuesday September 14, 2004 @09:26PM (#10251923)
    At 9600 baud? I think not......

    I do wish they would standardise on frequency allocations worldwide, as I live in the UK and might have a use for one of these, as it might be cheaper than what we have, the 458MHz band where things like this have been around for a long time, similar power, same baud rate, similar range with a directional antenna. I note that this one seems to be specified with a 4dB external antenna gain. Now that would be about a 4 element yagi, or a helix or dish, but maybe more as you would have a lot of attenuation in the coax unless it was very short, so the whole package is actually not so small as it seems.

    But we have seen better than this on Slashdot, not so many weeks ago someone had fitted up dish antennae to a standard WiFi card IIRC, and were getting better range on less power (100mW?), and very much greater bandwidth, but of course very directional. That too ought to be allowed worldwide but probably is not.

    This thing is not by any means a technical breakthrough, except possibly in terms of power efficiency, and even there I think the improvement is marginal.

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