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Device for Taking Travel Notes? 456

the Anonymous Wanderer writes "When I go in vacations, I like to take notes and upon return write a travel story for my friends. Until now I've been using a paper notebook, but found that I'm so busy when I come back that the notebook sits for weeks or months unopened. On the other hand, I have some 'dead' time during trips and I'd like to take the notes electronically (final editing could be done upon return). I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB? Thanks, the Anonymous Wanderer."
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Device for Taking Travel Notes?

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  • Solution (Score:3, Insightful)

    by VAXGeek ( 3443 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:02PM (#9176459) Homepage
    Here's the solution for your problem: just get a really expensive notebook (executive journal). This way, you'll have spent enough money to actually feel bad not using it, and you'll actually save money not buying a stupid electronic device just to jot down some words.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:03PM (#9176480)
    You can get a palm zire and a keyboard for much less than that.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:03PM (#9176490)
    Your notebook and pen will likely never fail you, won't break if you drop it, will cost little to replace if someone steals it, and you're more likely to actually use it on your trip.

    But this is slashdot, so let's discuss electronic toys we can add to our debts. We like paying for things after they've become landfil.

  • no PDAs? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mikeee ( 137160 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:04PM (#9176497)
    Not sure why you're ruling those out. An obsolete Palmpilot (say, a Vx) with an external keyboard will fit the bill nicely, down to being a decent alarmclock, too.
  • a phone (Score:2, Insightful)

    by riffenator ( 197038 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:05PM (#9176510)
    like a sidekick
  • Zaurus (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:05PM (#9176515)
    Although it is a PDA, the Zaurus will do everything you need. Also the keyboard is built in so you won't have to worry about carrying that along too.
  • by zerosignal ( 222614 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:06PM (#9176523) Homepage Journal
    You say you don't want a PDA, but it sounds like that's exactly what you need. You can get a basic Palm and a mini keyboard for under $100.
  • by GillBates0 ( 664202 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:06PM (#9176524) Homepage Journal
    Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB? Thanks, the Anonymous Wanderer.

    A camcorder may not have a keyboard, and may not be easy to take notes on - but believe me, there's nothing like audio+video to make a memorable/enjoyable memoir of your trip.

    I never thought of a camcorder (usually $300+) as a worthwhile investment, but my recent experiences changed that view - my parents're visiting and they've got a camcorder along (Sony, about $500.00, I think).

    Nothing beats a camcorder to take audio/visual notes including a running commentary. It's even fun to plug it back in to the computer and edit it and relive the memorable portions of the trip later. Give it a try.

  • Calculscribe (Score:3, Insightful)

    by rodgling ( 165255 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:06PM (#9176525)
    Try the calcuscribe [calcuscribe.com]. Light, small, fullsize keyboard and runs for months off three AA batteries. Oh yeah, and it connects via the keyboard port so it works with everything.

    On the downside, they're staggeringly overpriced ($240) for a keyboard + flash memory + LCD screen.
  • by Grandmaster Mort ( 731817 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:06PM (#9176526)
    If you want to turn your notes into an electronic format, then you WILL need to use a computing device. SURPRISE!!! You're just being lazy if you don't translate what you've written down on paper to a word processing program on a computer to store and potentially print out later.

    It just appears to me that you're being a whiny little bitch for 2 reasons:
    1) if you use paper, then you're bitching about how you need to spend extra time on transferring it to a computer
    2) if you use a laptop or PDA, then you're bitching that it's "too expensive"

    I think you need to be realistic in your expectations and then just make up your fucking mind in light of those realistic expectations.
  • Psion! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by WegianWarrior ( 649800 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:07PM (#9176545) Journal

    I'm seriously in love with my trusty old Psion Series 5 for writing stuff on - I mean, the odd short note is fine to do on the Palm M130 I got, but nothing can beat the Psion for datainput. True, it has only a serial conector, but then, nothing is perfect. A Psion 5MX or a Revo might be just what you need.

  • by Molz ( 87066 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:07PM (#9176546) Journal

    How will the note taking device being electronic solve the problem that you don't have time to write up the story when you get back? Won't it just be a more expensive way of not writing the story for a while after your return?

    My advice would be to just stay with the pad and pen. You will save the money on the device and batteries with out loosing any functionality as I see it.

  • PDA (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheRealMindChild ( 743925 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:07PM (#9176552) Homepage Journal
    Dude... ok, call me an ASS, but this is EXACTALLY the point of a PDA.

    As for expensive, what exactally IS your budget? Sure there ARE $500 PDA's, but there are also $50 PDA's. You can't justify your avoidance on cost and I personally think the "I like to get away from computers...." arguement is rediculous. If you were a bus driver, this would be equivilent to saying you want to go on vacation, without being subject to a car/bus/whatever-can-be-driven.

    Hell, if its notess you want, get a $10 mini-cassette recorder, and just talk into it. It will be much easier to deal with then pen and paper anyway.
  • by Blastercorps ( 762119 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:07PM (#9176553)
    Heh, it'd be cheaper to buy a PDA.
  • by Trurl's Machine ( 651488 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:08PM (#9176556) Journal
    I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB?

    If you want to be away from computers, use pen and paper to take your notes, like all those guys wearing flannel shirts at your local Starbucks. If a device has USB, keyboard and memory, it's a computer according to the classic definition [webopedia.com] with embedded software - just as any PDA, but more limited. So... why not to use the PDA anyway?
  • Tape recorder? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JonMartin ( 123209 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:11PM (#9176599) Homepage
    Or the digital equivalent. Something small that you can carry in a pocket. Pull it out whenever you want to take some notes. You can do improv stuff or record a more organized daily summary. And you can grab sounds from the environment. Nothing connects people more than the sound of voices (particularly if the voice is of a friend or relative). Instead of describing the ocean with words, just record "I'm at the ocean. Listen." When you get back to a computer all you have to do is encode it and put it on the web. You can probably do that at Internet cafes while you travel.
  • by www.sorehands.com ( 142825 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:11PM (#9176600) Homepage
    Why not get a tape recorder and use voice recognition software?

    I remember seeing the olypus digital recorder comming bundled with software and connecting wires.

  • by wastedbrains ( 588579 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:14PM (#9176632) Homepage Journal
    a PDA is not to expensive you can find them for 100 bucks. Your not going to get away from a computer... if you having a keyboard plugged into any type of device that is a computer. You can use the pda for nothing but typing if you want to be away from the computer. Also install nothing else on it and you will be unlikely to use it for anything but typing. It would offer you the best solution of typing editting (if you want) and portability if you plug a keyboard into it. This is part of what PDA where made to do. Your asking for a solution to a problem that doesn't involve the correct solution. (I want to paint a wall red, using only non red paint... it can be done, but there is no reason to make it more complicated than nessary by requiring mixing paints and such....)
  • My Experiences... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by bobej1977 ( 580278 ) * <rejamison@NOsPaM.yahoo.com> on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:15PM (#9176648) Homepage Journal
    I had a similar dilemma, where I used to carry pen and paper around to make notes or write down observations. Innevitably, these notes all end up in a box in my closet which I'm sure I'll lug around until the end of time without ever seriously going through. Upon buying a PDA, I realized that electronic notes are just as bad, in that, I still needed to weed through them, and they lacked the visceral context that a pen & paper provides (small spills, crumpled pages, shaky writing) which I found I enjoyed quite as much as the text. I then tried using my cellphone, which got back some of the context (noisy bar, excited voice, 3am) but put me deeper into the transcribing hole.

    In the end, I'm back to pen and paper and decided that if it isn't important enough that I'm not willing to transcribe it, then off it goes to the 'black hole of ideas' box. Maybe when I die, someone will edit and publish it. More likely, it will mislead a future team of archealogists into thinking we were all a bunch of crazy bastards.

    I'd try the phone thing though, if you're traveling locally. Get familiar with a sound editor and you can give your audience something a little cooler than text.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:16PM (#9176653)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by black6host ( 469985 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:18PM (#9176675)
    Try taking a peek at a calcuscribe [calcuscribe.com]. Might be what you're looking for...
  • Psion series 5 (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ColourlessGreenIdeas ( 711076 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:18PM (#9176686)
    They don't make them any more, but they're great. Find an old one on E-Bay. Great keyboard, runs for over a month on a pair of AA batteries, about twice as big as a palm.It can take CF cards for storing things. No USB, but the sync software works over serial or infra-red, or you can get a CF USB adapter.
  • Buy one of these.. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by scrubmuffin ( 173705 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:23PM (#9176723)
    http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/5c3 8/

    Write all of your notes in your notebook then when you get back, just throw away the notebook.

  • by Phoenix-kun ( 458418 ) * on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:30PM (#9176798) Homepage
    In addition to keeping your notes, make sure your digital camera (if you have one) is set to the correct time and take lots of pictures. Even the photos you don't use will give you the date and time of the highlights of your visit. This lets you enjoy the sights without being a slave to your watch.
  • by srussell ( 39342 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:37PM (#9176880) Homepage Journal
    My recomendation is to look on ebay for a first or second generation Windows CE devices

    A first or second generation PalmOS device with a keyboard would be better for travel. The PalmOS devices could run literally for months without a recharge and some took AAA batteries, which are easily replaced while on the road. WinCE devices -- especially the first and second generation devices -- were notorious battery hogs, and that's bad news when you're on vacation.

    Having a built-in keyboard, rather than a foldable external one, is nice, but I'd trade it for extended battery life if I were using on vacation. I'd also rather have a more normal-size, foldable keyboard than a thumb-pad if my primary use of the device is writing a log.

  • by C. E. Sum ( 1065 ) * on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:48PM (#9176974) Homepage Journal
    Heh.

    Been ther eon both sides of the issue.

    Honestly, the biggest reason to write the stuff down (in my mind) is for yourself. It's FUN to go back through your old travellogs and find all sorts of "Oh! I had totally forgot about that time we were in X and Y happened."

    One thing that would be kind of unfun about not having a notebook though is that pictures are a nearly universal language. When I look at my travellogs, they're filled with all sorts of hand-drawn maps, clocks with hands drawn on them, etc.

    Which is not to say that you couldn't have both an electronic note-taking device and a notebook, but ...
  • by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:49PM (#9177003) Homepage Journal
    " Every time I add some new story ideas, I quickly go read up on how few writers actually make a living writing and how hard it is to live on a poverty level."

    Perhaps that's the way it is. But if you write something in your spare time and get it published, you start getting a fairly regular check for a while. Content is an interesting way to generate income. Doing it exclusively, though, is a bit worrisome. I wouldn't call it futile.
  • Re:Solution (Score:5, Insightful)

    by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Monday May 17, 2004 @04:58PM (#9177092) Homepage Journal
    "and you'll actually save money not buying a stupid electronic device just to jot down some words. "

    I really hate when people get modded up for saying "do it the old fashioned way!" Not only is it not the nerd/geek way, but it's also a cheap shot at gaining a +5 Insightful.

    Never mind that PDA's are smaller than journals, that it's hard to organize what you've got since a journal is sorted only in chronological order, that there's value in having digital backups, and the other benefits of having tools such as voice recorder, no no no, the oversimplified pen and paper answer is the real solution to his problem.

    Why don't you use a little brain power to help this guy instead of trying to gain karma by making this guy's request sound non-sensical?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 17, 2004 @05:45PM (#9177557)
    Check out here. [walgreens.com]

    Alright, so you probably don't want the Lisa Frank version, but Walgreens has other similarly small, $1 notebooks to choose from. I speak from experience when I say that these things are a lot better than Palm Pilots and other PDAs. They're more portable, you don't have to worry about battery life, and you don't have to deal with carrying around a keyboard or trying to use the hand writing recognition software.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 17, 2004 @06:11PM (#9177785)
    Go over to REI or EMS or whatever local "outdoor" store you've got and pick up a small dry bag [rei.com] for it. Or look into an otter box [google.com].

    Any kind of boating shop should have these too. Saves you when you get drenched. I do a lot of travel in non-modern areas (like camping in a foreign country) and things get wet at the oddest times.

  • by p10pablo ( 771404 ) on Tuesday May 18, 2004 @12:33AM (#9180375)
    The Apple Emate left a void in a market, which both the Dana, Earthlink Mail Station, and other Internet mail friendly devices filled the void for. But for Jobs the desire is not to build a PDA but actually a series of consumer devices for the contempary consumer. Will Apple build anoher nice model device which is sub pc and sub Mac; probably not. Apple will continue to offer more, not less.
  • Re:You know (Score:2, Insightful)

    by LoztInSpace ( 593234 ) on Tuesday May 18, 2004 @01:59AM (#9180684)
    You're right. Depending on where in the world you go, paper can have advantages. In certain parts of the world it can be great to have your precious notes in an essentially valueless form. Even if you don't find yourself bargaining with a mugger for your possesions, just leaving stuff in hotels can be hazardous but a notepad rarely proves tempting. Even just having a quite drink can draw unwanted attention if you're clicking away at something.
    That said, I wish I'd had the facilities to record sounds - markets, rainforests, etc. as well as pictures. The ability to upload piccies & stuff to home regularly would be a great boon too - not that it's happened to me yet, but losing your holiday films is pretty crap.
  • Re:Solution (Score:3, Insightful)

    by instarx ( 615765 ) on Tuesday May 18, 2004 @03:37AM (#9180969)
    I really hate when people get modded up for saying "do it the old fashioned way!"
    So sorry that everyone does not look at solving a problem the same way you do. Why don't we just get everyone to stop posting and then we can save time by simply reading what you have to say on the matter.

    Why don't you use a little brain power to help this guy...
    The original poster was looking for a possible solution to a problem. It may very well be that he has already found the best solution with paper and pen. In spite of your own techno-bias I suspect paper and pen may actually be the best solution in this case. I have found that the people who actually have the most brain power are those willing to consider all possibiliites, including the traditional. Recommending paper and pen IS helping the guy. It is helping him to not spend hours of his vacation time typing in text on a keyboard and hunting for batteries DURING his vacation.

    Not only is it not the nerd/geek way, but it's also a cheap shot at gaining a +5 Insightful.
    Thank you once again for a definitive statement about what others should be doing and thinking. As for karma whoring, you are the only one who seems to be overly concerned about karma points.

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