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Recommendations for RPN Calculators? 580

sg3000 asks: "My trusty old HP 48S graphing calculator, that served me since engineering school, seems to be giving up the ghost. I haven't used it in a few years, but recently I put new batteries in it. It works, but it makes a loud static/white noise sound when it's on. The noise is not as noticeable when I hold it, but when I set it down on a hard surface, it's really loud. Then it sucks the batteries down incredibly fast (I put new batteries in it, and two days later, they were drained). Any suggestions on what I should buy as a replacement?"

"I'm in graduate school now, and since I'm taking an accounting course, where they don't want us digging out our laptops during a test, I need to buy another calculator. I'm a big fan of reverse polish notation (RPN), so I'd prefer to get another HP calculator.

Do companies still make calculators? I'd love to get another HP 48, but I'm not even sure if HP even makes calculators like that any longer -- on their web site, they're all cheapo-looking single line deals. I've read about something called an HP 48g, but HP has nothing about it on their web site."

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  • Real Soon Now (Score:5, Informative)

    by chennes ( 263526 ) * on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:46PM (#7051082) Homepage
    I have the HP48GX - it's a great calculator, but slow as molasses. According to this page [hpcalc.org] HP will be releasing the 49G Real Soon Now(tm). I'll believe it when I see it, of course, but we can dream, right?
  • My choices... (Score:5, Informative)

    by kwiqsilver ( 585008 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:47PM (#7051097)
    I have a HP 48GX and love it. If you can find one, get one.

    I also wrote a GTK based one:
    ghsilop [sourceforge.net].
  • Inverter toast? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:49PM (#7051104)
    Sounds like its power supply inverter is toast. Rip it apart, trace down the IC that is making all the noise (or look for a small IC mounted xformer near on IC) and do some home work. Replace what makes noise and what ic is a PWM if it has one, unless its home brew PWM inversion and learn.
  • New Hp49G+ (Score:2, Informative)

    by dduardo ( 592868 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:52PM (#7051130)
    HP has begun producing new calculators with the Hp49G+ just released. Features include: 75Mhz processor, USB cable, IrDa, SD flash card support Here is a link to pictures, etc of the new hp line. http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49gplus.php I'm looking forward to getting the Hp49G+ and hp33s. Hope that helps!
  • Re:HP 48GX (Score:5, Informative)

    by StarFace ( 13336 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:54PM (#7051140) Homepage
    That's a good recommendation. I have the 48G, no expansion slot, never needed it. Great calculator and the transition from the 48S is minimal. They revamped some of the applications to make them a bit easier to use, but you can still access the old 48S methods if that is what you prefer.
  • TI-89? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Josh Booth ( 588074 ) <joshbooth2000@nOSPAM.yahoo.com> on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:54PM (#7051145)
    My friend recently got a TI-89 and, while it's not an HP, it is able to download programs from the computer. He was able to download an RPN shell and he loves it. Of course, we are both high school seniors, so he gets bored. Since he doesn't have any games on there, he winds up putting in random equations and having it solve for x. Last time, it took the calculator about a day of computing and it would have taken more had the batteries not run out.
  • Re:New Hp49G+ (Score:3, Informative)

    by dduardo ( 592868 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:56PM (#7051165)
    Sorry, should have put the link in easy to click mode: HP 49G+ [hpcalc.org]
  • by Bilestoad ( 60385 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:56PM (#7051170)
    The RPNs worth buying are:

    16C - awesome calculator for programmers, especially embedded work. There is no better number system converter available at any price. No I can't do bin/dec/hex in my head faster than the 16C and neither can you. Expensive due to relatively low numbers produced.

    42S - pricey, even used, but excellent. Two line display, a replacement for the 15C.

    32SII - somewhat like a 42S but with single line display, not so nice to use.

    15C - same form factor as 16C. At the time HP's top scientific.

    11C - a simpler 15C

    10C - a simpler 11C

    All the above have solid old-HP build quality, excellent key feel and outstanding battery life.

    Older HPs are also usable (and may be preferred) - but they have even greater collector status and sometimes fetch higher prices. They will go through batteries faster and the red LEDs can be harder to see.

    Forget the 48 models, the 49 and all the new stuff. The 48GX is OK if you have to have graphing but the single and dual-line models have better UI for daily use. The 49? HP died when Carly took over. Now they make pretty colored plastic boxes that only work with windows and they have forgotten how to spell "engineering". In fact they fired all the engineers and HP is now run by MBAs in shiny suits.

    (I own 16C, 42s, 15C and 11C models.)
  • Can be fixed (Score:5, Informative)

    by EmagGeek ( 574360 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:57PM (#7051177) Journal
    This sounds like subharmonic oscillation in the inductor core used in the DC-DC converter. Pop it open, find the inductor, and replace it - thing should be good as new.
  • The truth about RPN (Score:2, Informative)

    by n3xup ( 411763 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:58PM (#7051186)
    Check out this website here [calculator.org] to find out what RPN really is.

    I hope when he wrote- "Do companies still make calculators?", he meant 'still make RPN calculators.'
  • by chipace ( 671930 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @09:59PM (#7051188)
    I use the HP48 software emulator on my pc. I don't need a portable calculator, so I leave my old hp48sx in my closet. The emulator has a gui with all of the buttons that the physical calculator has. Just do a google search on "hp48 emulator" and you can find a download for your os. By the way, legally you need a physical calculator to use the emulator rom. No batteries required.
  • by BlakeGarretson ( 619688 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:02PM (#7051210) Homepage
    FYI, if you want to use your new calc on a PE exam, read this [ncees.org] and this [ncees.org] first. Basically, all calcs from the HP-48G/49G series are banned as of next April. I'm glad I already got my PE; I would hate to take it without RPN...
  • by TokyoBoy ( 217214 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:06PM (#7051241) Homepage
    I feel that RPN is so much more liberating once you get used to it. It really is flexable an having a stack and a complete programming language at your fingertips is sooooo much a plus.

    I find it hard and annoying to use "regular" calculators now. I have been using my HP 48SX for almost ten years now and it still runs like a charm!!!! BTW, HP has revived their calc division. See www.hpcalc.org [hpcalc.org] for details. They have a line of new calculators on the way too!!!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:07PM (#7051249)
    Considering what you can find here:
    http://h20015.www2.hp.com/content/common/ma nuals/b pia5324/bpia5324.pdf

    all 856 pages of it...

    I doubt the 49g+ is a hoax by any stretch of the imagination.
  • 48G vs 49G (Score:2, Informative)

    by Dr. Mojura ( 584120 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:08PM (#7051262)
    I have both a 48G and a 49G. I keep the 48G at work, and bring the 49G around with me to school. While I much prefer the 48G's feel (I can can enter keystrokes on the 48G's quick, plastic keys almost twice as fast than on the 49G's hard-to-press rubber keys), I use the 49G exclusively for schoolwork due to it's vastly improved equation editing, algebraic manipulation, calculus handling and unit conversion. The 49G is much better in this regard.

    In the end, it really depends on what you'll be using it for. If you're not going to be doing calculations involving more complex equations (especially calculus or variable isolation involving many instances of the variable -- the 49G beats the 48G hands down here), the 48G (or 48GX) is probably best. Since you've gotten along with your 48S this long, the 49G is probably overkill.

    HP will also be releasing a few new [hpcalc.org] calculators soon, including a 48GII & a 49G+. Hopefully they will address the 49G's horrible key action!
  • Re:Real Soon Now (Score:3, Informative)

    by ImpTech ( 549794 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:11PM (#7051283)
    Hmm... gotta disagree w/the parent and agree with the grandparent. HP48s are sloooowww! Mine's only a 48G, but afaik its exactly the same as the GX except with less memory and no expansion slot. And its gross, really gross. It takes around half a second just to refresh when I put a number on the stack, nevermind trying to do more intensive things. I guess if all you do with it is basic arithmetic its fast enough, but otherwise forget about it. The thing drove me crazy years ago and sent me running to TI, which is a shame because I always liked RPN.
  • Re:HP 48GX (Score:5, Informative)

    by jemfinch ( 94833 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:14PM (#7051304) Homepage

    The new HP's ... aren't even made by HP. (They're rebranded.)


    Absolutely untrue. They're made by the same calculator division that worked on calculators before HP spun off Agilent. It's just that Agilent got the calculator division.

    The division was rebranded, not the calculator.

    Jeremy
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:15PM (#7051313)
    Emulation of the HP 48SX, 48GX and 49G is here and it's free. Best with a very hi-res device though

    http://power48.mobilevoodoo.com/
  • Re:rpn = racist (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:21PM (#7051349)
    Polish Notation was invented in the 1920's by Polish mathematician Jan Lukasiewicz, who showed that by writing operators in front of their operands, instead of between them, brackets were made unnecessary. Although Polish Notation was developed for use in the fairly esoteric field of symbolic logic, Lukasiewicz noted that it could also be applied to arithmetic. In the late 1950's the Australian philosopher and early computer scientist Charles L. Hamblin proposed a scheme in which the operators follow the operands (postfix operators), resulting in the Reverse Polish Notation [calculator.org].
  • by jensend ( 71114 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:24PM (#7051361)
    Contrary to what others here (your usual /. cranks with rose-colored nostalgic memories of ancient hardware) may tell you, the 49G is a great calculator despite the flaws in the design of the keys and display as well as the "new-wave" case. However, don't run out and buy a 49G now; HP is finally gearing up to release new calcs [hpcalc.org]: the 49G+ and 48gII replace the aging Saturn processor (2-4 mhz, I forget what the process was but it probably was 3 microns or so) of older HP's like the 48S/SX/G/G+/GX and 49G with an ARM9 processor (48-75 mhz, probably a .18 micron process). (I think the ARM9 doesn't do quite as many IPC as the Saturn, and low-level saturn emulation will give some performance penalty, but still, this is going to be a lot faster- hpcalc.org just states it will be 3-7 times faster than the 49G, that's a pretty wide range). In addition, they appear to have fixed many of the case/key/display problems which plagued the 49G, and battery life should be about the same as it was for the earlier 48/49 series. I have absolutely no doubt that the new calcs will be fantastic deals.
  • by PerlHeadJax ( 614572 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:29PM (#7051398)
    Or just get yourself a PDA running version 5 of PalmOS (lower versions are supported for certain PDAs) and use an emulator [mobilevoodoo.com] to turn the PDA into your old HP48S.

    The emulator seems to get good reviews. Unfortunately it doesn't run on my Treo 90. :(
  • by Russellkhan ( 570824 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:36PM (#7051436)
    I'm an old time HP calc user (still have my trusty 12C (which is still running on original batteries!) and my 48G) I first fell in love with them back when I was in high school and a friend of the family brought his old (pocket size LED display model, not sure which) HP over and taught me how to use it.

    I recently got a Palm OS device I can use, a Treo 300 (I'm Graffiti-challenged - way to sloppy a handwriter to ever train myself to make the symbols consistently enough) and have been looking around for a good RPN calculator for it. So far I'm using RPN [seul.org], a simple RPN calc released freely under the GPL, but I've also discovered another one [infinitysw.com] that I'm tempted to check out even though it's probably way more than I actually need these days. From the sound of it, if this calc is all it claims to be, it may be exactly what the poster was looking for (if he/she has a Palm device). There are also several other versions for whatever your needs.

    I am not associated with Infinity Softwaorks, the developers of this calculator. In fact I haven't even tried the calculator I mentioned, I just happened to have discovered it recently and thought it was relevant.
  • Re:Real Soon Now (Score:3, Informative)

    by eweu ( 213081 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:48PM (#7051501)
    I'll admit HP calculators are a bit sluggish in the overall "feel" of operation. They don't seem "instantly" responsive, but they are speedy enough where it counts. I certainly can't do matrix transformations in my head quite as quickly. (heh)

    What they lack in a whiz-bang fast processor, they make up for in efficiency. I've had the same batteries in my HP-48SX since 1994 and it is still going strong. A fast calculator will do you no good if it runs out of juice.
  • by dendyjm ( 93650 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:51PM (#7051516)
    I'm in the same boat. I've returned to engineering graduate school after 7 years, and I've found an HP calculator emulator at the following website: http://power48.mobilevoodoo.com/

    It works really well. Hope this helps.
  • Buy new batteries (Score:4, Informative)

    by SuperBanana ( 662181 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:56PM (#7051557)
    I have the HP48GX - it's a great calculator, but slow as molasses.

    Buy new(alkaline) batteries for it. I kid you not, it'll speed it up- if you haven't noticed, performance is noticeably dependent upon battery voltage, and the thing crawls when the batteries get low- possibly on purpose, I dunno.

    I've had mine since the early 90's, and I never though of it as slow at anything except menus, graphing, and equation solving. For standard math and even running RPN programs, it's pretty quick- I never felt it was a 'hinderance'.

  • Re:HP 48GX (Score:2, Informative)

    by BrokenHalo ( 565198 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @10:57PM (#7051560)
    The HP48G+ is identical to the HP48GX with the one exception that it doesn't have the memory expansion slot. I have one, and it's still nice, but I mostly use a Texas Instruments TI-89 now. It is much faster than the HP48G, though it doesn't have native RPN.

    RPN is a neat way to be able to chain calculations, but it's now a myth that it saves keypresses when compared to modern "real" algebraic calculators.

  • by StandardCell ( 589682 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:01PM (#7051586)
    Since I use a Dell Axim as my organizer/music/movie player, I carry around emulators for all my favorite old toys. One of them is GNU Emu48CE [personales.jet.es]. It emulates most flavors of HP48, and replaces my need for the built-in calculator or to carry around my beloved HP48GX. In fact, through emulation I have the equivalent of a desk full of equipment with me wherever I go. It's pretty neat, though it runs a Small-and-Flaccid OS.
  • Re:rpn = racist (Score:5, Informative)

    by Otto ( 17870 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:06PM (#7051608) Homepage Journal
    Reverse Polish Notation?!?!? Why exactly is it "Polish"?

    Because a Polish man came up with the idea?

    Prefix and Postfix notation were developed in the 1920's by Jan Lukasiewicz (who was, in fact, Polish). Prefix notation was often called Polish Notation in honor of Lukasiewicz.

    Postfix turned out to be useful for computer operations, if you made it into a stack and then did operations upon that stack. It was called Reverse Polish Notation, since postfix is the opposite of prefix, and prefix was called Polish Notation.

    Simple.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:19PM (#7051679)
    The only 'problem' with the 49 is the soft non-clicky keys.

    Fixed, fortunately, on the 49G+ [hpcalc.org].
  • (ahem) (Score:5, Informative)

    by bodrell ( 665409 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:28PM (#7051749) Journal
    You make it sound like students don't do real math. Unless you're a mathematician, an electrical engineer or scientist who writes modeling software, there are few occupations that require the level of math of college level classes.

    And there are many occasions where the graphing functions of my TI have proved useful in the workplace. To name a few:

    - being able to view every key I've entered before evaluating the expression

    - being able to revise and edit incorrect expressions

    - to determine linear regression fits for data sets

    - to perform functions like logarithms and square roots on said data sets, in order to linearize them (linearity being checked, of course, by the R^2 correlation of my fit)

    - anything at all to do with linear algebra, especially solving systems of equations or matrix manipulations. RREF is a bitch by hand.

    For more "pure" math (like Diff. Eq.), I agree that pencil and paper are generally easier. But any applied math (a.k.a. engineering) requires an insane amount of busy work that could not be handled with a puny scientific calculator. I know you said Engineering and Physics are different stories, but everything I just wrote could certainly apply to all sciences (even the "soft" ones like Psych. and Sociology), or anything at all requiring data collection.

    For the record, I use a TI-86 daily at a bio-tech job. It has the stats capabilities of the 83, plus all the good parts of the 85.

  • speedup (Score:4, Informative)

    by morcheeba ( 260908 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:38PM (#7051802) Journal
    The calculator is slow to respond and update the screen, but it does have a wonderful type-ahead buffer. Once you're confident with the commands (takes time to memorize) and the buttons (their high quality makes it easier to trust), go ahead and type as fast as you want. The calculator will skip screen updates during this time, so you'll get the answer soon after you stop typing.

    Once you know that secret, the speed isn't a problem (and I've got a 48S and a 48SX... that's a 1 MHz processor vs. the 2 MHz processor of the G's)
  • Re:Real Soon Now (Score:3, Informative)

    by madcow_ucsb ( 222054 ) <slashdot2@sanksEULER.net minus math_god> on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:47PM (#7051840)
    Hmm I've had a 48G and use a 48GX now (have had it for 5 or 6 years). And the OP's right. They're both slow as hell. Just TRY to use that matrix editor. Or the forms. I mean good lord. Now, if you have a GX and a memory card you can put on MetaKernel which speeds things up a lot. And you can get the 3rd party apps to replace the built-in symbolic stuff. Those make a world of difference. I really can't believe how poor the built-in apps are performance-wise.

    I love my HP, but I have to say the ONLY reason I would want to change to a TI is speed. Cuz there's NO way you can say a 48G(X) is faster than a TI.
  • Re:Real Soon Now (Score:2, Informative)

    by Grant_Watson ( 312705 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2003 @11:55PM (#7051894)
    According to this page HP will be releasing the 49G Real Soon Now(tm).

    The 49G has been out for years, not that I can find it on their web site now; I own one. Their processors have the same clock speed as the 48Gs (at least roughly), but they feel faster because the software has been optimized (read: rewritten). HP tried to add a bunch of TIish features (including a non-RPN mode); some of them even worked, but many didn't. They added lots more memory.

    The architecture did not lend itself to other kinds of upgrades (say, a faster processor or higher-resolution screen), and a complete redesign was apparently not feasable (or at least worthwhile) for the company. The same page [hpcalc.org] you linked to suggests that the 49G+ may have better hardware that emulates a real 49. Time will tell, I guess.
  • Re:Real Soon Now (Score:3, Informative)

    by dougmc ( 70836 ) <dougmc+slashdot@frenzied.us> on Thursday September 25, 2003 @12:07AM (#7051956) Homepage
    UIL calculator? Do they still do that? Always struck me as an incredibly silly contest, though that didn't stop me from taking a few tests (and doing.)

    Back when I was in high school ('87), the HP 12C [hpmuseum.org] reigned supreme. RPN and fast.

    The HP 48S and 48G's are much slower than the 12C was for simple arithmetic, which is mostly what those tests were. The slowness for simple arithmetic is probably due to the bit mapped display. Still, they're faster than you can mash the keys ...

    But once you start using the calculator's symbolic and graphing functions, you'll realize just how slow they really are.

    Still, they're awesome calculators, and I love mine. (I've also got a HP 28C [hpmuseum.org], the predecesor to the HP 48 line. God, I love these calculators!)

    If somebody needs one, check the local Goodwills, Usenet, newspaper classifieds and if you're desperate, Ebay. (Ebay will cost a good deal more, but will get you one quickly.)

  • Agilent (Score:3, Informative)

    by Detritus ( 11846 ) on Thursday September 25, 2003 @12:47AM (#7052145) Homepage
    Agilent got the test and measurement stuff. HP kept the calculators and handheld computers.
  • Re:Can be fixed (Score:5, Informative)

    by dozer ( 30790 ) on Thursday September 25, 2003 @12:48AM (#7052147)
    This sounds like subharmonic oscillation in the inductor core used in the DC-DC converter.

    It's funny that someone would think that this comment is funny.

    A DC-DC converter converts one voltage (battery voltage) to another (operating voltage). They often work by converting the DC signal to AC oscillations, transforming, and then back to DC.

    Subharmonic: a harmonic less than the fundamental frequency. The DC-DC converter switches at a frequency much higher than audible range so you could never hear its switching but you could hear subharmonics.

    Inductor: Used to transform the AC current. An introductory electromagnetics text will describe how. Inductors are usually made of coils of wire. Transformers are just two coupled inductors.

    Core: Winding the wire around an iron or more exotic core will increase the inductor's efficiency.

    If there is damage (i.e. cracked inductor core), you might actually be able to hear the switching used to convert the DC voltages. The cure: replace the inductor.
  • by Eric Smith ( 4379 ) * on Thursday September 25, 2003 @12:49AM (#7052157) Homepage Journal
    But I thought that HP committed the travesty of killing of its wonderful calculator line before Fiona took charge.
    She was definitely in charge when HP shut down ACO, the Austrailian Calculator Operation.

    HP's new calculator division is based in San Diego. I was just at the HHC conference this past weekend, and the division director, marketing director, engineering manager, and lead software engineer were there. They seemed to be very concerned about customer feedback and fixing any problems (or perceived problems) with product quality.

    Their first new high-end RPN calculator in four years is the HP 49G+, which will be officially announced in the US on October 6. (It's already available in some parts of the world.)

    The HP 49G+ has similar capabilities to the HP 49G, but with a larger display (25% more pixels), faster processor (75 MHz ARM), more memory, better keyboard, USB interface, and an SD slot for flash memory expansion.

  • Re:Real Soon Now (Score:3, Informative)

    by sessamoid ( 165542 ) on Thursday September 25, 2003 @01:19AM (#7052324)
    Back when I was in high school ('87), the HP 12C reigned supreme. RPN and fast.

    I was in high school at the same time and the 12C isn't the calculator you're thinking about. At least I don't think so. The 12C is the financial calculator in that form factor, and wasn't appropriate for those contests since it had only financial functions. No trig, no factorials, no logs, etc. It's an amazingly durable financial calculator however, and one I used in business later in life.

    You're probably thinking of the 15C. Practically all the winners in those years were using the 15C.

  • Re:HP 48GX (Score:3, Informative)

    by Desert Raven ( 52125 ) on Thursday September 25, 2003 @02:25AM (#7052607)
    The problem with the TI units is that they're just downright fragile, and tend to let you down when you need them most.

    I've got a 20-year old HP-11C that I still use heavily, also an HP 48G that's served well for a few years. These things have been dropped, spilled on, carried in back pockets, etc with not a single problem. These things are built like tanks.

    In the same period of time, my wife, who treats her stuff really well, has gone through over a half-dozen TI calculators. They just don't last. And, even when they do work, they go through batteries at a rate four times or greater than my HPs. Heck, my 11C has only had it's batteries replaced four or five times in 20 years. Having the display on the TI go so dim you can barely see it, because the batteries are getting low, is extremely annoying.
  • Nitpick (Score:3, Informative)

    by MSBob ( 307239 ) on Thursday September 25, 2003 @07:29AM (#7053417)
    it's reverse Polish notation. It comes from the name of the country and not from its shiny surface :-)

    Brits stole our Enigma credit, the French took Maria Sklodowska-Curie so at least let us keep our good ole RPN.

  • Re:Inverter toast? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Sir Holo ( 531007 ) * on Thursday September 25, 2003 @07:53AM (#7053530)
    Someone suggested ripping it open to find the bad parts... Don't! I killed my wonderful, first-generation 48SX trying to open it for cleaning a soda spill. (Yes, I could have used distilled water and dried over a few days, but I didn't want to lose 13 years' worth of equations and constants. You get 10 minutes of battery-out time.) It's not a press-fit or screwed case like you might expect. The two shell halves are fused/welded together, and tearing it open will destroy the case, as well as ripping apart the internal component connections. I don't think it was designed to ever be opened.
  • Re:Inverter toast? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 25, 2003 @08:42AM (#7053762)
    Actually, if you know what you're doing it is possible to open it (look on google). But it takes a while (longer than 10 minutes), and you're unlikely to manage to put it back together in a way that's as sturdy as it was before.
  • A capacitor or two! (Score:3, Informative)

    by viktor ( 11866 ) on Thursday September 25, 2003 @04:25PM (#7058035) Homepage
    I suggest buying a replacement capacitor or two - it sounds likely that one or more capacitors in your beloved calculator has dried out. Happens all the time in old electronics that hasn't been used for a long period of time.

    You could at least try opening it up to see if there's big (relative to the rest) "can" capacitors (not sure of the proper english term, sorry :-) They often feature in the 100+ uF range.

    When they dry out they often (but not always) start looking like they're about to explode (which they sometimes do). And best of all - if the solution is that simple it will probably cost you $2 in parts and a few minutes with a soldering iron.

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