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Fully-functional Miniature Notebook Planned 225

florin writes "Check out this upcoming extremely cool micro-sized notebook from Microsoft-cofounder Paul Allen's company Vulcan (who were previously mentioned on Slashdot some time ago). Despite being small enough to fit in the palm of your hand, this is a fully blown x86-compatible computer capable of running Windows XP - or, presumably, a Unix of one's choice. Featuring an 800x480 pixel display, 256 MB of memory, sound, USB2, WLAN and optional Bluetooth, GPRS/CDMA or Firewire, this is far more than just another PDA, yet still small enough to carry with you at all times." Looks really cool, but I wouldn't plan on using full typing speed on it's tiny keys.
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Fully-functional Miniature Notebook Planned

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  • by Snowspinner ( 627098 ) <`ude.lfu' `ta' `dnaslihp'> on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:20AM (#5814721) Homepage
    The tiny keys issue really gets at the problem I have with PDAs in general. Interfaces at that size are a real bother. My handwriting is far too bad to use the handwriting recognition, and any other input method is just painful. I can get a fold-out keyboard attachment, but at that point the device becomes sufficiently big that I can't carry it around in the pocket of anything short of my trenchcoat.

    PDAs are a wonderful idea, and once someone solves the interfacing problem I'm sure they'll be as common as full-size or notebook computers. But in their current form, I just can't use them, and I doubt that I'm the only one with this problem.
  • Re:To type fast (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Snowspinner ( 627098 ) <`ude.lfu' `ta' `dnaslihp'> on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:24AM (#5814742) Homepage
    I am not going to engage in a piece of technology that has a month-long period without proficiency. This may be because I'm enough of a gadget geek that I'm used to one or two day proficiency, but if it would take me a month to become proficient, I'd stop trying around a week.
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    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:29AM (#5814764)
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  • Dunno... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by kotj.mf ( 645325 ) on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:30AM (#5814775)
    I didn't notice an MSRP anywhere on the site; I've gotta wonder if something like a Zaurus C700 wouldn't be more cost-effective.

    I mean, if it's a complete pain in the ass to type on the teeny tiny keyboard on either model, what's the point of a 20 gig HD?

    Plus, the Vulcan is fugly.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:30AM (#5814779)
    Too small to be used on a regular basis and a bit too large to be treated as a PDA. I'm sure after the initial cool factor wears off, and eye strain sets in, you are going to have a user wondering what to do with that thing.
  • Re:To type fast (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:35AM (#5814805)
    I am not going to engage in a piece of technology that has a month-long period without proficiency. This may be because I'm enough of a gadget geek that I'm used to one or two day proficiency, but if it would take me a month to become proficient, I'd stop trying around a week.

    Hang on a tic... just how long did it take you to become "proficient" with the good old QWERTY? How long to become expert? Did you memorize all of the Palm character sigils instantly? Now, I don't know what sort of purpose you'd think of putting this thing to, but for a good input device for a general purpose device a month wouldn't be too bad. If you're just thinking of using it to save phone numbers, well that's a different story, but if I could type at reasonable speeds on something this size, a month is nothing to invest.
  • Compelling but... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jasonditz ( 597385 ) on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:38AM (#5814816) Homepage
    I don't see any mention of price.

    One would expect that the cost would be more than a normal laptop of comparable specs. While its got some compelling features this thing in the end looks like it can't decide if it wants to be a PDA or a laptop. At 800x480 resolution its probably not going to cut it as a replacement for a proper laptop, but at the same time, I wonder how usable an XP system would be as a PDA.

    Its neat as a "gee whiz" thing, but what sort of people need a PDA with more power than the present ones enough to shell out laptop prices and likewise what sort of people need a laptop that small but are willing to give up screen resolution?
  • Re:just to small (Score:3, Insightful)

    by kinnell ( 607819 ) on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:40AM (#5814828)
    Is it just me or is way so much emphasis being put on having a small product?

    The whole point is that you can stick it in your pocket. Laptops are too big and heavy, even the subnotebooks. For the kind of thing you want a laptop for, there is a certain size below which it becomes counterproductive. Likewise, for the kind of thing you use a PDA for, there is a certain size above which it becomes impractical. The catch is, though, that PDAs lack the power, storage space or expandability for many tasks which they would otherwise be ideal. This is the niche which this device is meant to fill.

  • Ugh (Score:4, Insightful)

    by MagPulse ( 316 ) on Saturday April 26, 2003 @11:41AM (#5814835)
    Not only is the keyboard small, but it's made of those rubber buttons that are on cell phones. Can you imagine typing for any period of time on those? Plus it has a trackball in the upper right?! How about a pointer stick in the middle?

    Give me a traditional PDA with a full-sized collapsable keyboard [amazon.com] any day. With the screen doubling as the mouse input device, it's still very compact. If you need to do serious work, a 2.7 pound ultralight laptop [cnet.com] shouldn't be too much to carry around.
  • by -tji ( 139690 ) on Saturday April 26, 2003 @12:55PM (#5815109) Journal
    - Decent price. It's not a full laptop, it's basically a mobility tool. Don't expect consumers to pay laptop prices.

    - Battery Life. Many similar devices are handicapped by their short power duration. Especially for a mobile/wireless device, the ability to run for a reasonable amount of time is key.

    - Broad WiFi access. This is outside of their control, but from the design, it appears they are counting on it. If WiFi rolls out as broadly as many think it will, this type of device will do a lot of business.
  • by Dr. Mu ( 603661 ) on Saturday April 26, 2003 @04:42PM (#5816215)
    Sure it looks neat -- like a mini laptop with teeny tiny keys. It's so cute! But even ignoring the tiny keys for a moment, just how do you use this thing? Do you balance it in one hand while typing with the other? I don't think so! That's about as awkward an arrangement as I can imagine. But what's the point of having one if you have to set it on a desk to use it? And when you're typing, your hands will be right it front of the screen, blocking it from view. This isn't radical, it isn't innovative, and I submit that it's not even useful.

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