Soldering with a Toaster Oven 252
nullset sent in a link to the Seattle Robotics Society about soldering in an unconventional way. Instead of the traditional soldering iron, Kenneth Maxon has successfully used a toaster oven to solder surface mount parts. The "magic ingredient" that facilitates this is a water-soluble solder paste. I wish I'd thought of this back when I had to solder one of those *ahem* aftermarket accessories to my playstation, since the whole process looks easier than trying to hold a soldering iron steady.
what do you mean unconventional? (Score:5, Informative)
sorry but industry has been doing the solderpaste->heated oven dance for years now.
it's unconventional to use a hand held iron unless you are doing board rework.
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Re:Way to fry components. (Score:5, Informative)
--buddy
Re:what's next? (Score:1, Informative)
In an article of IEEE potentials, they inform us that they're switching to Microwave technologies to detect breast cancer. Using this technology has many benefits over X-ray including a more comfortable exam.
Re:Solder Paste!? (Score:3, Informative)
This page has actually been around for a while. It's seems a pretty good idea, though I've never tried it.
Not so unconventionnal (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Hooray for surface tension! (Score:3, Informative)
Well, ok, they don't use toaster ovens...
Re:Putting people out of business, eh? (Score:3, Informative)
I think you've allowed yourself to get caught up in the scene too much to even consider what people are doing with their stuff. I mean, why bother pirating a game when you can have a real copy in minutes with a trip down to your local store? And the real copy doesn't require any funky chips or discs to get working.
IMHO, Nintendo got this right with the GBA. The GBA has no region lock out, so there is basically no modchip industry for it. Granted there are still mods (The Afterburner is a nice kit that works great), but none of the "defeat lockout" variety. I don't know anybody who pirates GBA games (although I'm not really part of the Warez scene either).
"Accessories" aren't just for piracy. (Score:3, Informative)
Since installing the "accessory", I've bought maybe five or six import games from my local import game store. This import game store charges an arm and a leg for those rare games.
If not for my "accessory", I would be patronizing Software Etc. and similar chains.
I don't want to play Quake 2 on my Dreamcast; I want to play Guilty Gear X, or Shenmue II, or Capcom vs. SNK 2. To do that, you need to be a criminal.
Surface-Mount Soldering Techniques (from a pro) (Score:5, Informative)
SMT reflow ovens, essentially, are identical to the ovens used in Pizza Hut where they stick a pizza in one end and it is taken through heating zones via a conveyor and pops out the other side done. In SMT reflow, the zones are controlled in such a manner that the holy 2 degrees C rule is never broken. (I used to joke that on the day I get fired, I was going to stick a frozen pizza in our reflow oven just to see what'd happen.)
My method of soldering IC's to a board is simple and IPC approved: Place the IC on the pads; center it up as well as you can. Using a regular soldering iron, "tack" two opposing corners of the IC to the lands with conventional solder. Don't worry about bridging. Then, apply a small amount of liquid solder flux to one side of the IC, bathing the legs. Then, apply a small bead of solder to the end of you iron and GENTLY wipe this bead across all the legs, from pin one to pin whatever. (Yes, it's counter-intuitative,) and you'll see as if by magic that you'll get very few solder bridges. Apply more flux if required. Clean tip of iron completely of solder, and just touch it to solder bridges. The excess solder will "sweat" to the iron. Clean iron tip again and repeat. When done, clean flux with laquer thinner or similar substance. (If you use no-clean flux, you could just be gross and leave it there if you wished, removing excess with a paper towel.) I find that a simple toothbrush dipped in thinner does wonders.
Or, you can stick stuff in your wife's toaster and take chances that way
Take care now ~!
Working Cache (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Surface-Mount Soldering Techniques (from a pro) (Score:3, Informative)
Try it at home but... (Score:5, Informative)
Using Solder Paste, you can use a hot air gun to place components on a PCB as well. A woman I know at work (Celestica) made a video demonstrating the SMT solder process using a hot air gun - it came out quite nicely and her joke on customers was saying that she followed the board through the oven (it was vapor phase at the time). Many customers were impressed with her tolerance to extreme heat.
As somebody noted, most components will stop working at 140C and in the oven they will go over 200C - they will survive, but the PCB should not be powered up until the PCB has cooled to room temperature.
If you're going to try this at home, a few comments:
1. Solder paste will only stay reliably sticky for 30 minutes. Make sure that you have your components ready and the oven at the primary temperature before you break the seals on the syringe and start applying paste. Make sure that you don't have more components than you can place in 20 minutes.
2. Solder "paste" is made up of finely ground solder held together by flux. Both the solder and the flux are poisenous and during the solder process you will see a build up of flux on the inside of the oven. Along with this, the solder may form "balls" that can be thrown off the PCB. An oven used for SMT experiments cannot be used for food preparation afterwards.
3. Solder paste must be capped and refridgerated when not in use. If you are storing it in a fridge where food is stored, make sure that it is in something like a tupperwear container and well marked (especially if children are around). It looks like pate or liverwurst, but will sit in your stomach like a ball of lead (sorry, couldn't resist).
4. The PCB coming out of the oven is very hot and will take several minutes to cool down. I've heard of a number of people that have built SMT boards in a toaster oven, only to forget oven mitts and tongs to handle the hot PCBs and ended up dropping the PCB on the floor and burning themselves. One genius I heard about was sitting down when he pulled the board out of the oven without any mitts or tongs... Make sure you have something like a barbeque grill ready for the PCB to sit on when it comes out of the over.
5. The PCB should be as dry as possible. Before putting on paste/components, you might want to put it into the over for a day or so at the lowest setting to try and bake out any water that has gotten trapped in it. Let the PCB cool before applying paste.
6. The PCB pads should be "HASL" ("Hot Air Solder Leveled") for best results (do not try this on bare copper and you may have to experiment with gold finishes).
7. I would suggest using parts with leads on 0.050" (50 mil) centers, 0805 chip components and SOT-23 transistor and diodes. Anything smaller will make applying the solder very difficult. The article indicates the author used smaller spacing components, but not how many and how the PCB was laid out.
8. Do not use surface mount connectors. Unless you are very comfortable with doing your own soldering, you will find that it is difficult to get a uniformly strong joint on every pin.
9. If you are designing your own PCB, you can use Protel's "EasyTrax", which is an MS-DOS Command Line program that can be downloaded for free from a variety of sources (you should be able to find where on Google). I have added IPC standard pad layouts for the library components.
I've done it a couple of times with an old toaster oven and it works surprisingly well. Just make sure you plan out what you are going to do and if there are any terms that I have used above that you are unfamilia with, make sure that you investigate them before trying it out on your own.
myke
Re:Surface-Mount Soldering Techniques (from a pro) (Score:4, Informative)
What's IPC? FWIW, I'm definitely no expert, but I did take a course in surface mount soldering at the local community college (just for geek knowledge reasons :), and we were taught to do it the way you describe.
Anyways, the course has been useful... I fixed a cellphone that had a tiny capacitor come loose (and I mean tiny--0.5mm x 0.5mm x 1.0mm). Also replaced a broken 0.5mm pitch FPC connector (admittedly, I did lift a pad while removing the old one... it was a pad that wasn't connected to anything though; just a small bit of metal).
Re:Surface-Mount Soldering Techniques (from a pro) (Score:3, Informative)
Sony makes a PS2 mod chip for homebrew (Score:3, Informative)
but some of us are big into application development for the ps2 and that requires a mod chip.
It requires either an independently produced mod chip, or the official PS2 mod chip produced by Sony [playstation2-linux.com].
A Paint Stripper heat gun (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Been done (Score:3, Informative)
If a toaster oven isn't good enough, get a larger one. http://www.atco-us.com/oven.html
Don't forget that doing this in a toaster oven will potentially contaminate the oven with lead. Think twice about using the oven for toast after this. Traditional solder and solder paste is Lead (Pb) and Tin (Sn) based. If it is not good on your walls, it probably isn't good in your toast.
Re:Solder Paste!? (Score:3, Informative)
There is some prep work, among which are cleaning the board/pads with some sort of solution (I was told alcohol) and the use of what appears to be a microprocessor-controlled iron with a flat tip (looks like an L, the long end of it is used like a spatula). Cannot recall the type of solder, but it's in the form of a paste that's easily applied.
She started by soldering two pins on opposite corners to tie the component down, then applied the solder along one set of pins/pads, and finally ran the iron across. The solder sizzled and then wicked into its designated spots (kinda like a group of privates in the army hearing "attention!"). She might do this another time if required. Repeat for the other pins/pads.
Flux (Score:4, Informative)
If you're not using surface mount components (like mod chips) you're going to have to use a soldering iron anyway.
The key to making any iron work easy (even surface mount!) is to use plenty of flux.
Get a seperate container of just flux and don't be afraid to use it. It makes a WORLD of difference.
Re:Try it at home but... (Score:3, Informative)
It's available for Windows/Linux, so download away...