LCD Overtaking CRT 317
prostoalex writes "IDC has a new report out, claiming that revenues for LCDs by the end of this year will top the CRT revenues. The only market not susceptible to the shift will be gaming and graphics-intensive applications, where the refresh rates of LCDs are not satisfactory yet."
of course (Score:5, Insightful)
not only reason... (Score:4, Insightful)
I'd love to have one, but not for the price of a P4 3ghz.
Makes sense (Score:5, Insightful)
Despite this statistic, I think it'll be a long time before CRTs become an uncommon sight on a desktop machine.
The article mentions total sales (Score:5, Insightful)
Cheers,
-- RLJ
Revenues != unit sales (Score:2, Insightful)
I'll be interested to see how long it takes for UNIT SALES of LCDs to surpass CRT monitors. My guess is that it will be within 2 or 3 years.
Exciting, because (Score:5, Insightful)
And that means that one day they'll be cheap enough for me to own; a simple pricewatch [pricewatch.com] check shows that I could get a 17-inch LCD monitor for $333 OR spend $329 on a 21-inch CRT monitor. Which do you think (given only $350) I'd rather do?
Also, this article makes an interesting claim that LCDs haven't done as well as they might've because "the human eye needs to see 25 frames per second to be tricked into thinking that motion is continuous, and LCD monitors have often failed to meet this specification". Um, my laptop LCD has a fixed 60Hz refresh rate. If that's what Computerworld is talking about, they're full of it.
refresh rates (Score:5, Insightful)
Am I misunderstanding something, or was the article author just intending a more generic meaning of refresh rates?
CRT Disposal (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Health benefits (Score:3, Insightful)
As for "long-term vision and cellullar-level effects" that can be said for LCDs, too. And for paper. And for the sky. Any anything you look at!
Try thinking sceintifically before you go spouting off nonsense.
Re:not only reason... (Score:5, Insightful)
In fact, modern electronics aren't repairable at all; once somethings out of warranty it's more cost effective to throw it away and buy a new one. On the other hand, as long as it's working there's little better on the market, so there's no reason to "upgrade."
So, on another topic, any MTBF figures on CRT monitors? Are they built with planned obsolesence in mind, or is it "the last monitor you'll ever own"?
Re:Makes sense (Score:1, Insightful)
It is for laptops, which is the point the parent was trying to make.
the other market that will hold out (Score:4, Insightful)
cheap LCD monitors look like my old laptop monitor. I didn't complain too much about the laptop because it was only a laptop. No way I'm paying twice as much for a monitor that doesn't work as well as my dinosaur of a CRT.
"no way I'm paying" means "I can not afford", in this case.
Re:Burned out pixels suck (Score:5, Insightful)
Losing a pixel on a CRT is bad too. No, it doesn't happen as often, but I am typing this on a machine that uses a Philips CRT (model 107s 17 inch). The first unit I got had a missing pixel. I took it back to CompUSA and they replaced it. The next unit I got mysteriously went black after a month. Fortunately, I kept my old 15 inch as a backup, and the RMA process went very smoothly. Interesting to note is that the monitor I got via RMA was made in USA. You never see that in the store... so I guess if you have to sit through RMA, they make sure you get the best quality. I was able to put up with this, BTW, because at the time 17 inch CRTs were expensive and this one was a bargain. My Philips has now provided me with 5 years of uninterupted service under conditions including no A/C and daily power cycling (sometimes twice a day).
The point? Both technologies have their problems. What matters is the support. A good manufacturer won't leave you "stuck with an annoying glitch".
Re:Makes sense (Score:5, Insightful)
For the past 5 years at least, CRT vendors have usually included the measurements of both the entire picture tube and the viewable area.
So a 19" CRT (17.1" viewable) still has more usable screen area than a 17" LCD, and at 1/2 to 1/3 of the purchase price.
I am still sticking with CRTs.... (Score:3, Insightful)
2. I change to various resolutions. I noticed stretching is ugly and black borders are annoying (no stretch).
3. Price especially for the bigger LCDs.
For now, I will just wait until LCDs are cheaper and improved.
Re:not only reason... (Score:3, Insightful)
One thing that I don't understand: Why don't desktop LCDs have higher resolution? Even the 19" ones top out at 1280x1024. Why is it that a large, expensive desktop lcd has such lo rez, while most 15" laptop displays can push 1600x1200?
If I ever was to buy an LCD, it would be a 19" model. For someone who runs 1920x1440 on his 19" CRT, 1280x1024 just doesn't cut it, expecially if it costs $500.
Re:Burned out pixels suck (Score:3, Insightful)
The main advantage I see is the compact footprint of such units combined with low weight.
Any new innovation results in a price premium, DDR RAM was expensive not long ago. Only recently is it becoming as cheap as SDRAM.
No (Score:1, Insightful)
Fear the business minor.
Re:Exciting, because (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Makes sense (Score:2, Insightful)
I DO NOT understand this at all, and so far I've not seen a satisfactory explanation, even though others have asked this same question: Why in the hell do I have to get a 21" desktop LCD in order to get a decent (1600x1200) resolution, when we've had laptop screens with 1600x1200 or better in much smaller sizes for at least a couple of years now?
With the kind of prices they charge for those big desktop monsters they could just as easily be pulling the smaller laptop screens right off the assembly line and putting them on a stand! A big screen is great, but we want a decent resolution too! Some of us don't want to have a behemoth on our desk just to get a high resolution. Sometimes the whole point of getting an LCD is because it takes up so much less space than a CRT!
Anyone "in the know" care to explain the continuing dearth of small, high-res LCD desktop screens? As it is, you *cannot* find a 15" screen with better than 1024x768 (at least I haven't seen one) or a 17" with better than 1280x1024. Quite often even the 17" screens only have 1024x768! This situation is a total mystery to me. The smaller high-res screens *already* *exist* on laptops, why aren't they being put into a different case and offered as desktop models too? I just don't get it. It's almost like they're only selling the desktop users the low-end trimmings.
Well (Score:2, Insightful)