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Sony DRU-500A Review 203

An anonymous reader writes "Just found a nice review of the Sony DRU-500A" This looks to be damn solid DVD burner. It's amazing how much prices on these things have come down. It might be time for me to make my epic film starring CowboyNeal, Samzenpus and Hemos in a moving story about Love, Friendship, and Growing Up in the Face of Adversity. I probably should write a script or something before I start filming. Or not.
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Sony DRU-500A Review

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  • Reads DVD-R at 2x. (Score:3, Informative)

    by WittyName ( 615844 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:18PM (#4590828)
    Title says it all.. Burns them at 4x (if the media is available), and reads them at 2x.

    CD Burning speed of 24x is nice tho.
  • by wherley ( 42799 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:19PM (#4590829)
    Conclusion of review here [djsmiley.com]. Highlights:
    • "Sony has done a nice job with this drive."
    • "The software that came with the drive works, but i would suggest an other recording program. RecordNow is way to limited"
    • "The bad side of the drive are the DVD read speeds. 2x DVD"
    • "For this moment, I can suggest this drive."
  • here is the review (Score:3, Informative)

    by thopo ( 315128 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:26PM (#4590873)
    omg only 7 comments and their server is already choking!

    here is the review since this will be /.'ed in 5 minutes or so:

    Sony DRU-500A DVD-R/+R review

    DVD recording is gradually catching on with consumers, but confusion over the two leading formats, DVD+RW and DVD-RW, has hampered sales. Analysts say potential buyers don't want to buy an expensive device--often costing upwards of $500--that could soon become a market also-ran.

    Sony's solution is simple: the consumer electronics giant will sell an internal and an external PC drive that reads and writes to DVD+RW/+R and DVD-RW/-R discs.

    Now, the drive is available... and time to be tested.

    The specifications for this drive (source: sony.com):

    2.4X max. DVD+R Write; 2.4X max. DVD+RW Write; 4X max. DVD-R Write; 2X max. DVD-RW Write; 8X max. DVD-ROM Read 4X, 12X, 16X, 24Xmax. CD-R Write; 4X, 10X max. CD-RW Write, 32X max. CD-ROM Read Random Access Time:
    DVD: 200ms
    CD: 160ms
    Buffer Memory: 8MB
    Buffer Underrun Protection Technology
    Supported disc format: DVD-ROM, DVD R, DVD RW, DVD-R, DVD-RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM (XA), Video CD, Photo CD (multi-session), CD Text, CD Extra and others.
    Software Contents:
    Veritas RecordNow: Recording Software
    Vertias DLA: Packet Writing Software
    Sonic MyDVD: DVD Authoring Software
    Cyberlink PowerDVD: DVD-Video Playing software
    Vertias Simple Back-Up: Back-Up and Disaster recovery software
    MusicMatch Jukebox: Play, Record, and Organize your personal music.
    System Requirements:
    Pentium III 400 Mhz (MyDVD: Pentium III 700 Mhz) or faster PC recommended.
    Windows 98 Second Edition, Windows 2000 Professional, Windows Millennium Edition, Windows XP Home or Professional
    64 MB of RAM (MyDVD: 128 MB) and 1 GB (MyDVD: 5 GB) free HDD space is recommended.

    But how is this drive really? Does it perform as promised? Does it write any media? Does it read discs well? We will see in this review if Sony has done it!

    I just received the drive (finally!). My drive was ordered from Retail Express (Resellers only).
    The drive comes in a retail box. This box includes the drive (duh!), an Sony DVD+RW disc (4.7Gb), some paperwork (Quickstart guide, both drive and software, a user guide of the drive, some information about specific OS versions / DVD media and some warranty information.) Also included is an IDE flatcable, and some software. The software comes on 2 discs, supporting many languages: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Dutch and on the second disc: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Swedish, Portuguese, Korean and Japanese. I couldn't find any mouning screws...... For me not a problem, i have many of them, but maybe i'm just unlucky and will they usally with the drive, i don't know.

    On the front of the drive there are off course the symbols of the standards the drive can write: DVD R/RW, Compact Disc Rewritable (high-speed) and a DVD+RW logo. There is only 1 button on the drive: Eject. A very light push is enough to eject the tray.
    There is 1 led on the front, and an emergency hole. (to open the tray by hand). No headphones or volume or whatever, just plain basic.

    On the back of the drive the connectors: a power supply connector, an IDE connector,the usual master/slave jumpers, a digital output, and an analog audio-out. Nothing new, just as any drive. The recorder does not have any specific cooling. (no fans like the Pioneer A04 for example)

    The inside of the drive looks also just simple, like any drive ;) (I couldn't resist it to open the case ;)

    Sony DRU-500A - Software

    The drive comes with some Recording software and tools. All software is bundled with the retail version of the recorder and supports multiple languages: English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Dutch and on the second disc: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Swedish, Portuguese, Korean and Japanese.

    These include Veritas Record Now, Veritas DLA, Veritas Simple Backup, MusicMatch Jukebox, Sonic MyDVD and Cyberlink PowerDVD. Also contains the disc both software manual and user guide in HTML format. Online manuals and guides are also in multiple languages.

    VERITAS RecordNow
    RecordNow is the main CD/DVD mastering program included with the DRU-500A. Along with the ability to make backup copies of CD's and DVD's, this program allows the user to starting creating their own custom discs within minutes thanks to some easy to follow wizards.
    The version of the included program is 4.50

    Sony will allow users to download a free upgrade to RecordNow DX sometime in November.

    VERITAS Simple Backup
    Simple Backup is a fast and easy way to backup your computer. The interface allows you to backup and restore your entire system thanks to its easy to follow wizards.
    The full system backup protects your computer's data and registry at the click of a button. If you don't need to backup everything, you can manually select the files and folders you want to protect through the custom backup. Simple Backup also offers more advanced backup features like compression and spanning. With the built in compression option, you can fit up to 1.2GB of data onto a CD.

    Arcsoft ShowBiz
    For video editing duties, Sony has included Showbiz from Arcsoft. ShowBiz allows you to drag and drop your video footage directly onto the editing timeline. From here you can add transitions, background music, special effects or custom text.
    Once you're done you can customize the sample rate and frame size and export your video to AVI or MPEG format. You can also turn it into a QuickTime or Windows Media movie to get it ready for internet streaming. Otherwise, you can export it to a MyDVD project for further customization.

    Sonic MyDVD 4.0
    MyDVD allows you to create your own VCD's and DVD's quickly and easily. Sonic has revamped the interface for version 4.0. Right from the start, MyDVD gives you a variety of options including the ability to create a DVD, a Video CD or edit video.
    The main interface is very different from what we saw on earlier versions of MyDVD. The "toolbar" is gone and has been replaced by a much nicer layout. The main functions of MyDVD are still easily accessible. From here you can start new projects, open existing projects or save the one you're currently working on.

    Adding movie clips to your current project is as easy as drag and drop. MyDVD lets you take any MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AVI or QuickTime video clip and add it to your project. Of course there is a trade off here. Even with a fairly fast computer, MyDVD can take a good amount of time to convert the clips into a usable format. MyDVD also allows you to make your own custom menus and will even let you add your own pictures, icons and sound effects. Unfortunately, version 4.0 still doesn't let you place the menu icons where you want them.
    Need to capture some video clips from your VCR or other video source? No problem, MyDVD can do that too. You can also start the record direct-to-Disc wizard from here. This wizard allows you to easily transfer video directly from a DV camcorder to disc if you have the right hardware.

    MusicMatch Jukebox 7.1
    This is a popular utility to create, manage and organize all sorts of multimedia audio files, including MP3s. Once you've created the perfect play list they can then be burned to CD.
    Unfortunately the number of burns is limited to only five. Once you've gone beyond this, you will need to upgrade to MusicMatch Jukebox Plus.

    CyberLink PowerDVD 4.0 XP
    CyberLink's PowerDVD is one of the more popular software DVD players on the market now. PowerDVD offers a complete set of navigation commands, including advanced features like multi-angle viewing, multi-language and subtitle selection, digital zoom and even parental control. As the name might suggest, version PowerDVD 4.0 XP fully supports Windows XP. It is also compatible with files created by Microsoft's Windows Media products.
    The PowerDVD version on the disc is for Sony only. It won't install on a system without a Sony DVDRom

    Sony DRU-500A - Installation

    The drive is easy to install, just like any CD writer or DVD player or whatever. Simply set the master/slave jumper, and connect the power and IDE cable, and optionally the audio connector(s). The testsystem (Gigabyte 8IDML, Intel Celeron 1700, 256Mb, 30Gb 7200rpm, WinXP Pro SP1) recognizes the drive as a DVD-R station. Windows accepted the drive without problems, and automaticly turned on DMA for the drive. Next step: Run Nero Infotool (1.03.2) to see what the drive supports. As you see, the drive seems to support overburning also. We will test this later.

    As you can see, the drive supports almost all functions ;)
    Nero (version 5.5.9.17) is installed on the test PC.

    The Veritas Recordnow software recognizes the drive also offcourse (it's bundled with the recorder). The program works, but I won't recommend to install it. It only can copy 1:1, and make a new complilation. That's all, only the very basic functions.
    I prefer Nero. The latest version (5.5.9.17) does support the Sony DRU-500A.

    Sony DRU-500A - Reading CDs

    Now its time to do some tests. How does this drive perform while reading a normal CD? I used Nero CD speed to do this tests.

    Pressed CDs

    The first test: Read a pressed CD (the CD that came with the drive, containing the software)

    As you can see, the drive performs very good, at the end the 32x speed is reached. The avarage speed while reading is 24.44x as you can see. This is a little slower than the Philips DVDRW228 (as tested on dvdwriters.co.uk. However, using CAV, the drive is able to reach it's maximum speed of 32x, while the Philips couldn't get >28x.

    The seek times have been tested also:
    Random seek: 193 ms
    1/3 seek: 211 ms
    Full seek: 268 ms
    The spin-up time of the drive is reported at 2.93 seconds. Spin-down time is 3.37 seconds.

    The load-eject test:
    Eject time: 1.46 seconds
    Load time: 1.32 seconds
    Recognation time: 7.16 seconds

    Recorded CDs (CD-R)

    The same test as above. This time using a CDR disk. (A new Platinum 80-min, with a fresh-burned NFS HP2 ISO, recorded on my 12x Sanyo writer)

    As you can see, the drive reads without problems and does perform simular to a pressed CD.

    Audio CD (DAE)

    What does this drive do with an audio CD? How does extract audio cd's? Time to test!

    The read speed of the drive is very good. It is faster than the Philips 228 DVDRW, and faster than the Pioneer A04. The Pioneer A05 performs almost equal at this point. The drive does not support reading CD Text, however, i'm not sure about it, since the CD which is used in this test didn't have CD-Text on it. (i couldn't burn it with nero cdspeed).

    The read speed of an audio CD (an old MTV Audio CD, Pressed (but not legal ;)):

    Also here: Very good results. The drive reads audio cd at an avarage speed of 23.79x

    CDRW

    Reading CDRW is offcourse not a problem for the drive.

    Sony DRU-500A - Reading DVDs

    The drive should read DVDs at a speed of 8x. Now we will see if the drive really can do this.

    Pressed DVDs

    In this test i will try to read a pressed DVD. (Twilight 74)

    As you can see, the drive starts at 3.3x, and ends at 8.01x. So reading pressed DVD's is no problem for the drive, only the CPU load goes up to 80% @ 8x reading.

    Recorded DVDs

    Now the same test as above, but this time a recorded DVD (A copy of a MP3 Collection DVD. Burned on an Arita DVD-R with a Pioneer A03 writer)

    This is bad... As already mentioned on some forums, the drive seems to be locked at 2x max... It just won't read DVD-R above 2x. The drive can write DVD-R at 4x (with the right media offcourse) but can't read it that fast ;)

    Pressed DVD-Video

    Reading a DVD movie: Payback. Region 2, DVD-5 format (Single Sided, single layer)

    Also bad performance. The drive won't read above 2x. Enough for playing a movie, but way too slow for ripping or whatever. DVD-Video (pressed) has also been tested with SmartRipper, but also: 2x max reading :(
    Lets hope Sony will fix this issue with a firmwareupdate.
    For this moment (and maybe forever) an additional DVD-Rom is not a bad idea.

    DVD+RW

    The last DVD read test: How does the drive read a DVD+RW disc? (The one which is included with the drive)

    The drive reads DVD+RW disc at the same speed as it can write them: 2.5x. The error on the end is due to a bad record, i have screwed my DVD+RW and don't have another one to test it again ;). Don't blame the drive for that!

    Sony DRU-500A - Recording CD-R

    The drive has a recording speed of 24x. This is faster than the Philips, Pioneer, or any other DVD writer. Now the drive will be a real replacer for your current writer. The Pioneer for example records only at 8x, so you most likely will need/want an additional writer for the normal CDs. This Sony has solved this, by writing CD-R at 24x. Not as fast as the current recorders (40/48x) but most of the time fast enough.

    Recording CD-R

    Writing an image from the harddisk to a Platinum CDR (40x certified).

    Writing goes ok. Nero (5.5.9.17) supports the drive. As you can see, the CD was finished in 3min 45.

    Recording CD-R - CLV speed

    See how the recorder actually records. (using Z-CLV)

    As you can see above, the Sony DRU-500A writer uses Z-CLV to record a disk. Starting at 16x, going 20x, and finish the CD at 24x.

    Recording CD-R - Overburning

    What does the Sony DRU-500A think of big CDs? 90min, 99min, and even 100min? This test will see what it does. I used some white-label 100min CD-R for this test. Nero CDSpeed identicates the media as "Plasmon"

    The drive is not good at overburning. As you can see, the Sony can only overburn up to 80.42.53... Not that much, but not a real problem.

    Recording CDRW

    The Sony is able to rewrite CDRWs at a speed of 10x using high-speed media.

    Nero rewrites the disk at 10x without problems. The full cd is written at 10x.

    Sony DRU-500A - Recording DVD-R / DVD-RW

    The drive supports both DVD-R and DVD+R standards. At DVD-R, Sony supports up to 4x write speed.
    Time to test the performance while recording DVD-R.

    All tests are done by burning about 4.3Gb from another data-DVD in a LG 16x DVDRom. (Twilight 76). No image file is used, recordings are on-the-fly

    The drive has a medialock. This means: The drive determines its max recording speed which should be used for the specific media. The Pioneer has also this lock, but with a hacked firmware you can force a recording at 2x, while the media isn't 2x approved. For the Sony... at the moment no hacked firmware.

    Thats Write! DVD-R Spindel

    As you can see, the drive detects the disc as a 1x DVD-R, and records it succesfully at 1x.

    Princo 1-2x DVD-R DVD-Box

    This disc is succesfully written at 2x.

    I did also test some other media:
    Nashua DVD-R
    Thats Write! DVD-R DVD-Box
    Arita DVD-R DVD-Box
    They all recorded at 1x.... For this moment, the Princo DVD-R is the only one which is able to record at 2x.
    I'm going to test more brands later this week, and hope to find some 4x media (if they are already available)

    Recording DVD-RW

    I don't have any DVD-RW disc at the moment, so this test will be added whenever i have them

  • I have one. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:27PM (#4590887)
    Very nice drive, will burn a 4GB DVD+R disc in about 20 minutes, using about 5% CPU time on my Win2K Athlon 1700.

    Some problems:

    - the promised packet writing software (DLA) is not yet available.

    - the included burning software will not burn an ISO image

    - Using DVD-R media, I burned 3 coasters in a row. DVD+R has been 100% perfect so far.

    I would say this is a state of the art drive that is well ahead of the software available to run it. Expect many more of these types of drives that support both DVD-R and DVD+R.

    For $350, as a backup device alone, this thing is amazing.
  • I have one. (Score:5, Informative)

    by NetJunkie ( 56134 ) <jason.nash@CHICAGOgmail.com minus city> on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:28PM (#4590891)
    I like it. I originally ordered one from Dell but they pushed my shipping date WAY back so I grabbed one at CompUSA three weeks ago. It works well and I've had no problems. I'm only using 1x media right now, except for the included DVD+RW disc.

    The only issue right now is software support. Most apps don't support this drive, yet, but they should have updates out any day. Definately a good drive to cover all your bases.

    I've used the discs in my notebook, XBox, and DVD player.
  • Re:Figured as much (Score:3, Informative)

    by NetJunkie ( 56134 ) <jason.nash@CHICAGOgmail.com minus city> on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:34PM (#4590936)
    Well, this drive negates the multiple format problem. Write whatever format you need at the moment. As for speed, these drives are much faster than the first gen drives. You have to remember, a full DVD is 4.7GB, that's a lot more than a 700MB CD-R. So, taking 30mins to write one isn't all that bad.
  • by rerunn ( 181278 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:48PM (#4591013)
    Why I love my dvd burner:

    xbox + modchip + dvd burner + blank dvd's + nntp feed == hours of fun and joy for my son

    DVD Burning forums at xbox-scene.com [fxp.info]

    Latest XBOX cd/dvd images/rips [isonews.com]
  • by Professor_Quail ( 610443 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @07:54PM (#4591039) Homepage
    Hmm. Good argument, except for the fact that the 'x' speeds of CD writers and DVD writers are different. For CD writers, each 'x' is equivalent to 150KB/sec; so if you have a 4x burner, it'll burn 600KB/sec, and so on. For DVD writers, each 'x' is 1353KB/sec; that means each DVD-writer 'x' is approximately 9'x' on a CD burner.
  • by Boone^ ( 151057 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @08:33PM (#4591242)
    is here from CDRLabs.com [cdrlabs.com]
  • Re:Burning times (Score:5, Informative)

    by bedessen ( 411686 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @08:53PM (#4591319) Journal
    What is 1x speed for a DVD-writer. Is it the same as a CD-writer (150KB/s). If so... it's still a looong time to burn a 4000MB DVD:
    Did you even read the article? The theoretical rate for DVD 1x is 1380 KB/s, so 2x is 2760 KB/s and 2.5x is 3450 KB/s.

    In his testing, he burned:

    4.26 GB DVD-R at 1x in 59:13 (1257 KB/s)
    4.21 GB DVD-R at 2x in 29:31 (2492 KB/s)
    4.21 GB DVD+R at 2.5x in 27:58 (2631 KB/s)
    4.25 GB DVD+RW at 2.5x in 22:10 (3351 KB/s)

    So, the effective rates are somewhat less than the theoretical (probably because of extra time to write the TOC or close the disk) but they come fairly close. In any case, it's nowhere near 3 hours.

    Remember, this is a max speed (probably calculated on the outer ring?), chances are that your DVD is going to take longer to burn than optimal estimates.
    That only applies when accessing a drive using CAV, the burning here is done with CLV, so the rate is constant throughout the whole disk.

  • by NickDngr ( 561211 ) on Sunday November 03, 2002 @11:46PM (#4591986) Journal
    Anyone know the exact figure?

    According to the screen shots in the article, it would be 1380 KB/s. Quite a bit higher than the 150 KB/s 1x cd speed (as you said).
  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Monday November 04, 2002 @07:41AM (#4593352) Homepage
    actually ZIP drive cought on quite well in the graphics arena... the pig device you speak of is the JAZ drive... $100.00 to $200.00 USD disks, you cant write to the last 20 meg of the drive no matter what you try to do and the disks die easily and are very very VERY unstable.

    DVD drives are the same.... nobody gives a care about the DVD+R.. everyone wants DVD-R because 99% of the DVD burner purchaser's are looking to put their movies on DVD and DVD-R is the onlty format that is the most compatable. so again this is a drive / medium for graphics/video. The general Joe will NEVER need anything past a CD burner... and you cannot beat the price of 0.09USD per disc right now for CD blanks... hell it's to the point that CD-RW disks are a stupid thing to buy. (they always have been stupid to buy in my opinion)

    Anyways... DVD-R burners and DVD burner's in general are hot for graphics and video because of one thing.... Consumer DVD players.... that is it... the only reason any DVD burner is desireable.. Hell DVD as a format/storage would have died 2 years ago if they never released a consumer home video playback device using it.

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