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3Com's 10/100 Switching... Wallplate 342

An anonymous reader wrote in to say "Tom's hardware has an exclusive review of the new 3Com Network Jack. This is a 4-port 10/100 switch that fits in a standard-sized wallplate." Alright, thats a good idea (he says while accidentally kicking the switch hidden under his desk). Having run more then my share of ethernet drops in the past, I gotta say I dig this idea.
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3Com's 10/100 Switching... Wallplate

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  • Now, if only... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by zentigger ( 203922 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @04:26PM (#2632955) Homepage
    ...it included an 802.11b wireless bridge, we could do away with cabling altogether :)

  • Re:Now, if only... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by carlhirsch ( 87880 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @04:29PM (#2632972) Homepage
    ...it included an 802.11b wireless bridge, we could do away with cabling altogether :)

    Actually, 3com's talking about incorporating 802.11 and bluetooth into the thing shortly.

    Gotta be fully buzzword-compliant, you know.
  • Only four ports? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Old Wolf ( 56093 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @04:33PM (#2633006)
    Haivng a technically minded guy around is great..:)
    The wall-ports at my work each have 6 ethernet connections, one BNC, and two telephone jacks.
    6 you may ask? Well, since ethernet only uses four of the eight wires in the cat5 cable, so you can send two connections down one cable (and out one wall jack), although you need a splitter cable (easy to make) if you want to get the second connection out of it of course :)
    Then, all the ports are wired up via the walls to a central switchboard where you can use short pieces of cable to connect the network any way you like. It's brilliant :)
  • Speaking of 3com... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Wakko Warner ( 324 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @04:37PM (#2633042) Homepage Journal
    ...anyone else notice how bad their switches suck? We've run into problems where even cards manufactured by 3com will not work with their 10/100 switches. I wouldn't trust something like this in my data center or in my bedroom walls...
  • Re:Only four ports? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by st0rmshad0w ( 412661 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @05:19PM (#2633112)
    ...And REALLY not a good idea for reliable 100
  • by heikkile ( 111814 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @05:29PM (#2633172)
    A whole wall panel for so little. What I would like is a glorified patch cable, with two bisexual ends. Find a socket that seems to have some working equipment connected to it, disconnect, plug your cable in, and reconnect what ever it was. Plug the other end in your laptop, and also there is a free end for the next guy and his laptop. Enough "intelligence" to handle 10/100Mbit conversions in all four directions, so it makes what ever old/new equipmen fit what ever old/new network, and to adapt to the needs of straight/crossed cabling if both ends turn out to be hubs or PCs. Preferably no power needed, eating a few electrons from the signal wires, or at least a built-in battery for the next zillion years... Price wouldn't matter, as long as most everyone could afford one... Is this really too much to ask?
  • by the_2nd_coming ( 444906 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @05:30PM (#2633175) Homepage
    what would realy be usful is a switch this size with a built in DSL or Cable modem. then just hook up the coax to the module behind the wall and plug in your computers. another good idea would be to add a behind the wall twisted pait connection either modular or hardwire it your self so you can run network cables with out a huge mess and no uglyness......ofcource that would probably not fit into a wall socket now would it?
  • by ErikTheRed ( 162431 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @06:35PM (#2633538) Homepage
    One item that I did not see addressed is whether or not it passes on the 802.3af Power Over Ethernet to the devices attached to the switch. Some of my customers use IP Phones, and this would be extra-sweet for them (the company won't authorize purchase of 802.3af power sources for the phones, but they might use these jacks when they move their offices...).
  • I dislike the idea (Score:2, Interesting)

    by macdaddy ( 38372 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @06:50PM (#2633644) Homepage Journal
    Note, I haven't read the article yet. I haven't had time.

    I dislike the idea of replacing or supplimenting workgroup switches with these wall plate things. Does this switch support 802.1Q or 802.1D and things of that nature? Can software upgrades be preformed on these things? Is the thing manageable at all? If not, port-based VLANs are out the window. Switching off a port for security reasons is also out the window. Basic administrative tasks could be greatly inhibited or prohibited if this device has little managment capabilities or none at all. I see people jumping at this idea and embracing it as the next great thing. They did this to 802.11B too. These are also the type of people think wireless is a replace for a wired connection. It is not a replacement for a wired connection. It's convienent for laptops, kioks, printers in odd places, dynamically changing rooms like temporary cubical farms, and PDA access. It can not replace a wired connection for a desktop. So many basic network administrative tasks are inhibited by wireless connections. Most people don't realize it because the extent of their networking ability is buying a 4 port hub and plugging in purchased cables. Perhaps they know how use a crimper and can pull a little wire between rooms. They still don't do the network tasks that a network admin like myself have to do. They just see it as a easier way to connect things together. bad bad bad

  • High end homes (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Ian Peon ( 232360 ) <ian@e p p e r s on.com> on Thursday November 29, 2001 @06:54PM (#2633672)
    I work for a small company that designs whole house systems (Audio/ Video/ Network/ Security/ Climate/ Control) for people with way too much money (Our clients don't cringe at throwing $100,000 at a home theater).


    Often times, AFTER all the wire is pulled, our clients will decide that they actually want 4 ports out of a wall plate instead of 2, AND they DON'T want a local Hub/Switch that takes up room. This would be a quick, neat and tidy solution for just those situations - IF it works well, we'll probably sell about 1 a month.

  • by J.J. ( 27067 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @07:59PM (#2633936)
    You should have read the article a bit closer. From Page 2: [tomshardware.com]


    Although the NJ100 can be powered by a local AC adapter, the NJ100's "Power-Over-Ethernet" option is a feature that really provides additional value. The NJ100 supports IEEE 802.3af Power-Over-Ethernet standards, which allows you to power the NJ100s from wiring closets, rather than locally. 3Com also offers a Power-Over-Ethernet Midspan Solution, which can add Power-Over-Ethernet capabilities from one to twenty-four ports, using the IEEE 802.3af standard. Of course, this feature isn't included, but can be purchased at additional cost.


    J.J.
  • by Bobo the Space Chimp ( 304349 ) on Friday November 30, 2001 @12:26PM (#2636860) Homepage
    IANS (I Am Not Sure) but aren't electrical wires behind the wall somewhat fire resistant? This is to stop them becoming conduits for fire to other floors (imagine a plastic-coated wire that caught on fire. It would quickly burn up the inside of the wall to the next floor. Not so good.)

    So, are there fire resistant network cables? Are they available for the home user? Do these wall plate packages warn about this and to not just run standard across-the-floor cable?

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