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First Review of Sharp's new Linux-based PDA 80

A reader writes "In this article, just posted at LinuxDevices.com, embedded developer Jerry Epplin takes a close-up look at Sharp's new Zaurus SL-5000D Linux/Java PDA developer edition, from both a user and developer point of view. In the article, Epplin says the SL-5000D demonstrates that "Linux has reached maturity as an operating system for handheld devices", and concludes by saying "Overall, the polish and quality of integration of the environment and applications are excellent. Their documentation and support are first rate.""
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First Review of Sharp's new Linux-based PDA

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  • nice toy... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by TechnoVooDooDaddy ( 470187 ) on Monday November 12, 2001 @10:24AM (#2553474) Homepage
    .. and I predict it will be buried in my closet in 30 days or less...

    Why? It's just another novelty. A few apps will be developed for it, sure, but without community support that's where it will stop. I'm sure it runs linux and that's all well and nice, but you know how DIFFICULT it is to make a application that will run in that space and actually be usable?

    If you'd like a PDA for daily use as a useful TOOL check out http://www.handhelds.org [handhelds.org] those folks have got it nailed down to an art, with nice apps being release seems like every day.
  • Autonomy ??? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by mirko ( 198274 ) on Monday November 12, 2001 @10:39AM (#2553535) Journal
    A friend of mine recently bought a Lisa/iPaq [www.lisa.de] which appears to have the following issues:
    • It is not that quick
    • It has around 2 hours of autonomy which (IMHO) is unacceptable regarding the mobile position it is supposed to fulfill.

    I read the article but couldn't actually get an idea of the Zaurus' autonomy.

    Could somebody answer me.
  • Focus on Strengths (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12, 2001 @11:23AM (#2553917)
    Clearly, this is a battle that Linux can win. One of the big strengths of Linux is its scalability. The other is the ability to compile on multiple platforms. These strengths MUST be exploited for Linux to be a strong commercial success.

    If there are 2 fronts where Linux can win, it is in the handheld arena and the server arena. It's my opinion that (for now, at least) the desktop war is futile. It will take a great deal of time before Linux can gain substantial ground in the desktop market. BUT, the handheld market can easily be dominated by Linux within the next few years. The only problem is that of an interface.

    The Qt Palmtop Environment (QPE) is nice, but not nice enough. The interface borrows too much from WinCE to stand out. Another issue is that of Qt's licensing. Look at the PalmOS software sites. There are hundreds of programs available, many of them free. There are also programs which cost less than $20. This is a big motivating factor for many developers. Because of Qt's licensing, a developer would have to shell out $2400 in order to sell a simple $15 program he/she wrote. I think that this is cost prohibitive for many people. And, as we have all seen in the past, a platform is only as good as the applications available for it.

    These issues can be overcome by Qt (or another organization) releasing a library that has a reasonable (or free) cost, and can be used for commercial handheld development. Not all developers want to create free software. Many would like to be able to make $5 or $10 from their prodcuts. The second thing that needs to happen is an innovative interface. One such project is the Onyx PDA project. Work has been developing on this for a while, and it's quite impressive. It will be GPL, and is based on Qt 3.x. Look for a SourceForge project site for it really soon. I met with the guy developing it and he gave me a little demo, and it was looking good. The game plan he has laid out for it sounds like it could be very good for users, as well as a lot of fun for developers.
  • Re:nice toy... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by k4m3 ( 259891 ) on Monday November 12, 2001 @12:31PM (#2554102) Homepage
    If you'd like a PDA for daily use as a useful TOOL

    My PDA is a useful tool since I don't have to think about what or why it is running. I don't want to listen to kernel or OS upgrade, I don't want to hear about graphic toolkit and so on. What I want is :

    • power on
    • a quarter of second later, do some task _quickly_
    • power off
    • a quarter of second later, my PDA is out of my view

    I don't want a keyboard, I don't want a CLI, I don't want a developper toy for developpers who are only looking for adding bells and whistles to functionnal apps.

  • by tgd ( 2822 ) on Monday November 12, 2001 @02:24PM (#2554606)
    Flame suit on, but whats the point of this? I bought an iPaq last week with the intention of putting one of the various Linux distributions on it, but haven't.

    Why? Simple. I decide that I, like the vast majority of people who buy PDA's, want to use it for something more than a gimmicky toy.

    I hate Microsoft products as much as the next guy -- I've been running Linux since 1992, almost exclusively. I have precisely one PC running a Microsoft OS (a Toshiba Libretto that I use for running diagnostic and performance data logging software for my car, which only runs on Windows). But the iPaq will be staying Pocket PC until there are applications available for it on Linux. (But of course, will they be QT applications or X applications?)

    Examples:
    Media Player 7.1 rocks on the iPaq. Nice big compact flash card and I can carry a movie or at least a TV show to watch on the train.
    Vindigo: no problem finding restaurants or bars in Boston. Always know what movies are available.

    Avantgo: I have 4 meg of news cached on it, very handy over the weekend when the girlfriend was off shopping, or I was waiting for the T.

    Pocket Streets: Well, anyone who's ever driven in Boston would immediately see the usefulness of this.

    Mame: Well, duh. I hope this is at least avaiable on Linux for the iPaq.

    Dashboard: Excellent replacement UI for Pocket PC.

    It pains me (a lot) to say it, but Microsoft has a superior product. Source code for the OS is of no fundamental use to me -- this isn't a desktop box. License fees are clearly negligible. The iPaq was $299 for a 64 meg model, essentially with the same hardware specs as this one running Linux, only $100 cheaper.

    So where's the benefit other than the sheer geekiness of it? Being able to say I CAN run Linux on it covers that need in my soul, plus if anyone rips on me I can point out I hacked Linux onto three Virgin WebPlayers, an Audrey (sort of), and an iOpener at home, and my Tivo has ethernet. Installing Linux on foreign hardware just isn't that cool any more.

    So basically, this Linux-on-a-PDA craze is interesting from an intellectual standpoint, but its a LONG ways away from being commercially useful, and this product will probably bomb as quickly as every other non-compatible PDA out there. Especially at $400+!
  • by Mactire_Dearg ( 211446 ) on Monday November 12, 2001 @02:33PM (#2554678) Homepage
    I do know how to type, and my ring finger is size 15 so I definitely dont have "baby hands", and I love my blackberry based pager keyboard. I can do well over 40 words/minute with it using my thumbs. I have been praying for someone to get a clue and add one of these on to a PDA. All I can say is THANK YOU SHARP and GET THIS THING ON THE MARKET ASAP!!!

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