ESR's Sex Tips For Geeks 197
An Anonymous Coward writes: "According to Eric S. Raymond in
this article,
'hackers don't have to be helpless chum in the dating-game shark pool. We have some advantages; with a little understanding of human ethology we can learn how to use them effectively.'"
Anyone who says brains aren't sexy doesn't get turned on by a liter of gray tissue.
Re:I'm sure this guy gets all the babes... (Score:1)
Some tips (Score:1)
(b) having more self confidence makes you instantly more attractive to girls. When my former boyfriend started going out with me, suddenly he found girls flirting with him rather than ignoring him as had previously been the case. Why? Because it was obvious that he wasn't interested - a challenge! So act like you've got a girlfriend (body language - posture, no staring at chests, etc., and bingo!)
HTH!
Uh? (Score:1)
field experience (Score:1)
Girl: Can I check my email?
Me:Sure.
Girl:Ummm, I think your computer is broken. It says something about a Zoot. It wants me to "Login" to "Braveheart".
Me: Shit. Hold on a sec, let me add a user.
One minute later
Girl:What is this? This isn't one of those "free" operating systems is it?
Me: *grin from ear to ear* Why yes it is. Linux actually, my favorite...
Girl: What? Can't you afford Windows?
Me: Well. Yes, but...well, I mean....
Girl:Whatever.
five minutes later
Girl: Where the hell is the Start button?
Me: You see that picture of Jessica Alba in the lower right hand corner?
Re:pupils, shrink... from this advice. (Score:1)
She: No, I just took a couple of Percocets. They always make my pupils pin out. Wanna fuck?
Rohypnol: Better Loving Through Chemistry
Hmm.. (Score:5)
Could it be that the average slashdotter is actually *reading* the article for once?
Re:Sexism (Score:5)
I don't know, when will women stop having sex with men who have stone age attitudes, and start having sex with men who treat them as human beings?
Hmm.. (Score:1)
Re:Getting laid? (Score:1)
> really gets to know you and has had some
> experience with a*holes should be a target.
> Unfortunatly not all girls have that experience.
Sorry, but what kind of asshole are you? I hope that _no_ girl has to made experience with assholes just for my own success with her.
So: _Fortunately_ not all girls have (to make) that experience.
Re:pupils, shrink... from this advice. (Score:1)
No, I understand this a real reaction. For an interesting application of this, read Larry Nivens A gift from Earth.
In A gift from Earth, the main character has the subconcious ability to make people become uninterested in him by making their pupils contract. It happened whenever he was scared, so he ended up as a twenty-something virgin (just to bring this back on topic!). i.e he would chicken out at the last minute and the girl would take an interest in *anything* but him.
Anyway, by the end of the book he not only learns how to control this ability (kinda), but how to do the reverse. i.e make a person fixate on him by dilating their pupils. But he's already gotten laid by that point :)
Re:RTFM? (Score:2)
(Note that there were not one, but two Edwin Hoogerbeets; one that went to University of Waterloo, and, for a while, worked at Microsoft, and another, quite distinct, with a somewhat ZZ-Top-like beard, that got pictured in a Microsoft advertisement back in the late '80s.)
Re:tips... (Score:2)
"Fact: Women love long hair! It's an instant chick magnet. It's better than walking puppies in the park! Wash it and wear it down. Toss it around on your shoulders a lot. When my guy does this, women will just walk up and start touching his hair! Wouldn't you like this to happen to you?"
Well, I asked my wife about this one, and she claims *my* long (shoulder-length) hair is sexy. Of course, hers is longer than mine, so she might be biased. I can't say that I've had women standing in line to run their fingers through it (though I once met a woman who wanted to run her fingers through my beard).
Are you moderating this down because you disagree with it,
Re:argh (Score:2)
Doctress Neutopia [umich.edu]. For a short while, RMS was a shoo-in for the post of Gaia Messiah. It didn't work out, she complained about the disgustingly filthy state of his keyboard and started comparing him to Bill Gates.
New Poll? Geeks and Polyamory/Polygamy (Score:2)
I'm not advocating polygamous relationships, and I'm not criticizing them either. I'd just like to see what fellow geeks think.
Josh
Exotic cars (Score:2)
I knew that buying a Trabant and a Cinquecento was a good investment!
__
Re:New Poll? Geeks and Polyamory/Polygamy (Score:1)
Count another poly geek here.
Like you, I do think I sense a slightly higher percentage of geeks in the bi and poly communities I hang in.
I've noticed something more striking. While I've taken relatively little crap about my sexuality and my relationship style, things have been even more positive for me in the geek community, both in terms of understanding (not having to explain poly) and acceptance. (Of course, that's just my own experience, and a generalization at that.)
--j
I'm surprised... (Score:1)
Re:I'm surprised... (Score:2)
Re:I'm surprised... (Score:2)
sed -e s/[gG]un/Penis/g \
-e s/[bB]ear/Dangle/g \
-e s/[aA]rms/Phalluses/g \
-e s/[tT]rigger/Glans/g \
< http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/guns/gun-ethics.html
And then go read the original source [softpanorama.org]: plenty more where that came from.
ESR swings ... and gets a base hit, not a home run (Score:3)
Finding the right combination of these traits to display is the real trick. Confidence is probably the best trait to work on because it involves the fewest compromises. Most geeks are highly confident in their computer skills. But what needs to show through is confidence about everything. And that means that, as a male, you must approach a woman you're interested in as if there's no question that the outcome of the encounter will be in your favor. And you must do so without hesitation or doubt.
--
Re:I'm surprised... (Score:1)
there are brainy women out there... (Score:1)
[Unless they're so ugly that they can't get any attention otherwise. :-)]
Seriously, many intelligent women do not try to impress with their physical beauty, even if they could.
Oh, and I'm sure that 7of9 only gets so much attention because of her cleavage.
Hardware? (Score:2)
man 1 sex (Score:3)
Re:argh (Score:2)
Hey, this is a funny thing. Did you know that the name of Bill Gate's wife is Melinda? Isn't that the name of your virtual sweetheart?
(giggle)
A female geek's comments (Score:2)
You see, Eric doesn't understand women. And yes, I know him well enough to say that.
For one thing, the courtship token issue. A lot of women don't like them, not because they are too intrusive, but rather because they don't like what they represent. One has to find the appropriate level of gift at the appropriate time. It used to be flowers and candy, but for many modern women, either or both will be turn-offs at any time. And I disagree that these are "after sex" types of tokens. In fact, I think I'd be much more insulted if I'd received them right after! But if someone's interested and having trouble expressing that, flowers can be helpful in communicating that.
I'd also amend his point about having sex only with people you're prepared to love to the following, more realistic statement: have sex only with people with whom you're not only willing to love, but who you're willing to pay child support to for 18 years. You see, the choice of whether or not there's a child isn't your choice, ultimately, and no method of contraception is foolproof. If you're not ready to have a child and the costs thereof, keep zipped unless you know the outcome could not possibly produce a child.
One key point he misses: Women have an ability to turn off sexual interest (as distinct from romantic interest) for long periods in ways that guys don't. Like the chronic interest in men, it is a biological feature of women. This is one key reason women don't think the way men do.
_Deirdre
silly joke. (Score:2)
Open souce people kill people.
--------------------------------
Subliminal (Score:2)
Re:tips... (Score:2)
I cut off my hair (Had rather long hair) and almost immediately had new classes of girls talking to me.
Here's my advice to getting the time of day:
Dress nice but not fancy, casual so you look like you fell out of a macy's catalogue or something.
Keep trimmed, and neat.
Be confident, but not cocky. Show it's nerving to go talk to them, but maintain an attitude like it's ok to be shot down because you cant succeed if you dont try.
Talk to the girl when there isn't competition or a low amount, but when it's ok to talk to them. Don't try to chat them up at a supermarket, or while they are studying.
But, the hair thing is absolute crap. Most my friends have long hair, and after I cut mine and they saw what happened they are all considering cutting it.
Re:c'est vraiment (Score:1)
Non, des femmes et des filles trouvent que des hommes qui parlent francais sont idiot
Re:Hmm.. (Score:2)
Hey, this is REAL news for nerds...
---------------------------------------------
Re:Speaking of stone age attitudes... (Score:3)
Geeks tend to believe that they could treat women better, if only they had the chance. This is absurd, the guys that are getting laid are the guys that do know how to treat a woman.
You're absolutely right. I agree with you completely. I was trying to point out to Terri Rolle that, in fact, women are sleeping with exactly the men they desire -- women can SAY they HATE "stone age attitudes" all they like, but so long as they keep rutting with the frat boys, men will keep acting like frat boys.
My greatest regret in life is that it took me so long to stop listening to what women SAID they wanted and start paying attention to what they actually ACTED on.
Being intelligent is far from the most critical component in how you treat a woman.
I'd recommend looking for a good dancer and a pet owner, that'll tell you more than intelligence about how someone will be in a relationship. (yes, I'm a good dancer, no I'm not a pet owner, so I'm not just making up rules that I fulfill!)
---------------------------------------------
improve reading comprehension before criticizing! (Score:2)
Re:I'm surprised... (Score:1)
It's the date, isn't it? (Score:1)
Dangerous assumptions about audience... (Score:2)
Skimming around this article, I encountered a decent amount of good common-sense advise in dealing with other people, communicating with one's partner, etc. But then I get to the section on safer sex (all two paragraphs of it!), and whatever respect I have for Eric's sex advice skills goes out the window:
I'm going to buck the current wisdom here and point out that, statistically, AIDS is a negligible risk for white heterosexuals in the U.S. unless your partner has needle tracks or you have an ulcerating STD like chancroids. Outside those circumstances, people in the U.S. and other developed countries probably get killed by lightning strikes more often than they catch AIDS through unprotected heterosexual intercourse (which is why the disease is now in decline here and has been for years).
The `traditional' STDs (gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, chlamydia) are much more infectious and actually more significant risks, and genital warts are physically harmless but nearly endemic. Condoms can help, but you shouldn't rely on them (if only because genital mucous membranes aren't the only ones you're going to expose to a sex partner). Choosing your partners carefully is smarter.
I agree with Eric's basic point that choosing one's partners sensibly and thoughtfully can be one of the most important parts of living a safer sex lifestyle. I furthermore agree that the odds of HIV/AIDS being transmitted through vaginal intercourse are probably pretty low. But a few things to consider:
Re:argh (Score:2)
-henrik
Re:it's all about common interests (Score:2)
No offense, but have you actually talked to the women you describe as "fat, ugly, hairy and mean?" We guys hate it when we are reject it because we are fat, skinny, not muscular enough, don't have a nice ass. Girls also hate being judged solely by their cup sizes & waist/hips ratios.
Fact: the most attractive (or unattractive) part of a person is personality. I know several friends who are happily married to women I wouldn't describe as physically attractive. The women are wonderful, incredibly nice people, and my friends are desperately in love with them.
Re:New Poll? Geeks and Polyamory/Polygamy (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Sexism (Score:1)
Date rape drug for men (Score:1)
Men, be more alert and cautious when getting a drink offer from a girl. There is a drug called beer, that is essentially in liquid form. The drug is now being used by female sexual predators at parties to convince their male victims to have sex with them.
The shocking statistic is that beer is available virtually anywhere! All girls have to do is buy a beer or two for almost any guy and simply ask the guy home for no-strings attached sex. Men are literally rendered helpless against such attacks.
Please! Forward this to everyone you know!!!
(I'm a cowboy, baby)
--
Male date rape drug (Score:2)
--
A cynical opinion ! (Score:1)
>geek can do to attract females.
Alas this a widely spread misconception. To pick up girls being too honest is often a bad strategy! Being as you really are might make girls run away. Don't forget that girls LOVE to dream, and have often an idealistic view of the man of her dreams (prince charmant syndrom) you must understand what she is looking for and make her feel that you are absolutely the man of her dreams. Sorry guys this absolutely cynical! But this is really the way it works, use you fabulous geek brain for this absolutely strategic social skill
Second, Honesty and being too nice may end being absolutely dangerous, as many women will consider you as a "good friend" but not one they consider sexually attractive.
Alas, Women thinking has often nothing to do with Honesty and kindness at least during the dating process, while they may consider this as good family values they are looking in a good husband, but to simply bring them to your bed, it's often useless, or nearly useless. Yes with women YOU NEED to be somehow cynical, and this is something very difficult for many geeks.
Saw an early beta of this document... (Score:2)
Yes, that is a real lion.
Re:Saw an early beta of this document... (Score:2)
Looking good (Score:2)
I have to respectfully disagree. Being comfortable with your appearence is what counts. If being comfortable means blending in, then fine, go and do that.
But, speaking as someone who is disfigured, it doesn't matter what you wear. Just that you are comforatable with it. I wear black jeans, and (plain) black t-shirt, because that's what I'm confortable in. Wearing trendy clothes wouldn't stop people from pointing and laughing at me, so I don't even start.
You don't have to look good to project confidence. I found that taking up Aikido did a lot more for me projecting confidence than anything else.
Really, the most important thing to add is don't let someone drag you out to get new clothes. That doesn't work. It only works if you go yourself. You don't have to.
And yes, I have a girlfriend.
--
Uh... (Score:1)
Re:Uh... (Score:1)
huh? (Score:1)
[...] I've recruited three beautiful geekgirl assistants; Cathy and Amy. They will supply [...]
RTFM? (Score:5)
Re:chix 101 (Score:1)
-------------------------------------------
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.
Best line... (Score:1)
Don't be yourself unless you're all ready somebody people would like
-------------------------------------------
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.
Re:I'm surprised... (Score:1)
One of the most successful dates I ever had started with dinner at a Mongolian-barbecue place and followed with a visit to a gun range, where I taught the lady basic pistol technique
-------------------------------------------
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.
Re:I'm surprised... (Score:1)
-------------------------------------------
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.
Intelligence (Score:5)
But anyway, you know what I mean. Use your abilities to learn things that will impress girls. Memorize every work of Mozart and Beethoven and learn to play a few. Teach yourself a spoken language. Use your brain for something other than learning another programming language or OS.
Another thing, clean up your act. Work out. Get a tan. Pay attention to your wardrobe. You know those hot little sexpots you see bouncing around with their flat stomachs and perky asses? WTF makes you think they want some slouch with a beer keg for a stomach that dresses like their little brother? Most guys can clean up their acts to a very respectable degree, if they put forth the effort. So the 'terminally ugly' defense is rarely true. You, yes YOU, can look much better than you look right now.
Is it shallow? Maybe. But so what? If it gets you what you want, mission accomplished! It's a means to an end. I promise, you'll not feel shallow the first night you bed a really attractive girl.
Re:New Poll? Geeks and Polyamory/Polygamy (Score:2)
Have one friend. She's my girl, she's my everything. I need to bond closely with more people. Sure, I have acquaintances. But that bond with lots of folks, and extended Heinleinian Family O' Lovin'? Keep dreaming...
INTJ certainly has its ups and downs.
-grendel drago
Gay? (Score:2)
Well, maybe they're smart enough not to get it from Slashdot.
-grendel drago
Re:Geek Love (Score:1)
Hell, "Hope" off their record, "Milo Goes to College," was my soundtrack for years. Most of that album is about the previously mentioned geek mindset of "Maybe if i'll treat her really good, she's bound to drop her asshole boyfriend and go out with me!"... Heh. Of course, a while later i got into the Replacements, and subsequently half of the tracks off of their "Let it Be" became my soundtrack....
hmm. Has someone poster a link to the Geek Love section at Miningco yet?
However, something to consider (Score:2)
I know, it's stupid, but there's a high correlation factor. So, IMHO, waiting for the third date is probably optimal, as it gives you a chance to get to know her, and increases your chance of a successful mating.
Probably related to time and resource investments, but it's fairly hard-wired into most men. Caveat: I formed long-term relationships as a result of one-night stands, and sometimes waited months, with continual flirting and escalating petting, only to have it fall apart once it became sexual.
But, as a general rule, if she doesn't want to go to bed the first time, this might make it better for you.
Re:In my opinion (Score:1)
(I.e. your collection of vintage 80s microcomputers, collection of operating systems, overclocking hobby, your pet programming project, your interesting! sysadmin/ software/ engineering job or graduate degree program, your alluringly delicate and lanky bod, fluffy stomach hair, etc etc).
Fact: there are humans of both sexes who shrink in revulsion from those people I will only characterize as "scary conformist athlete fucks". ...I could go on in this vein. And from people who believe the quickest way to get a filly into bed is to talk to it (her?) like she is a horse (don't believe me? Read ESR- and remember! no sudden movements).
Get someone compatible, and you don't have to run away or block your ears when they start talking. Case in point: during a brief visit with my 2 60-something scientist parents this winter, I "introduced" them both to the early-PM SciFi channel lineup and inadvertently produced - simultaneously - 2 drooling, aged Babylon 5 rerun addicts. Imagine being able to watch meaningful TV with your hon.
Not that my parents should be the ideal you strive for.
PS: Hell... Anyone who can answer "yes" to the last 2 in my list of attributes, plus at least 2 of the others... should post a reply.
Subtle, piquant body odour is optional and to your taste; however, if present, said odour must not be "poopy". Bhangra or really vile electropop music a plus.
PPS: (Re. the horse approach: Isn't she going to notice? Nah... try this test case: pick any friend, and talk to him as if he is a horse for a few hours. Then ask if he noticed anything. He will probably say, "Noticed what? No, though come to think of it I have begun to feel an upwelling and inexplicable desire to let you... um... Hey! That Pamela Anderson is really hot!".)
--
A really disturbing mental image (Score:1)
Re:Geek Love (Score:1)
Geek Love by Digger
I was wondering what you would think
of a stupid guy like me
'cause I was thinking it might be real cool
to be with a popular girl like you
you don't even look at me in school
what can I do
to get you to notice me
'cause I always notice you
I guess I was always way too short
I was never any good at sports
I don't want a letter on my shirt
I don't want to be just like Kurt
I want to be your man
I want to hold your hand
I want you to be my girlfriend
we could be a team, oh baby
we could be ok
we don't have to hear what they think
so why should we care what they say
we could go to the movies
get some popcorn and an icee-freeze
oh well I guess that that's ok
I forgot what I was going to say
doesn't really matter anyway, hey hey
I could call you on the phone
nobody has to know
maybe I could walk you home from school
that would be my dream, baby
please, that would be so cool
you don't have to tell anybody
you can still treat me like a fool
I might just be a geek
but I'm a geek in love with you
geek love
sorry to waste all you guy's (and gal's) time, if you are really curious about this band they are on Hopeless Records [hopelessrecords.com] and you can buy all their CDs from either the label site or from interpunk [interpunk.com].
Okay, mod me down now...
Re:chix 101 (Score:1)
Re:New Poll? Geeks and Polyamory/Polygamy (Score:1)
Re:Hmm.. (Score:1)
Re:Intelligence (Score:2)
More women in the field would most definitely make a difference. Spending most of your young years in an environment where there are 5 men for every woman sets it mark.
The confidence part is a pretty vicious catch 22. But I ramble.
Re:yeah... (Score:1)
Hmmm...short hair, denim jeans and black t-shirt. Have you not seen "Queer as Folk" on TV? That's "the uniform" in many gay locales such as San Francisco's Castro district or Toronto's Church and Wellesley "Village".
But really, both styles -- Nautica Preppy and Jeans and black tees -- are just fine. Pick the one that works for you.
Ya know, if you're a gazillionaire like ESR.... (Score:3)
...writing "Sex Tips for Geeks" is made considerably easier by the fact that anything you do will be considered sexy if it is behind the wheel of an Italian or German-made exotic automobile.
I have, fortunately or unfortunately, many friends who became multimillionaires in the midst of the dotcom run-up. Now even their flatulence smells to some women sweeter than "Obsession". So picking up chicks isn't really a problem for them any more. Now the problem is filtering out the ones who would've loved them when they slept in $300/mo campus housing and drove a Gremlin.
(Of course, I hope for ESR's sake that he managed to dump some of that VA Linux stock back in the day [slashdot.org]. What was once worth to him $36M would I think now be worth less than $500K... And losing over 95% of your personal wealth in less than two years is DEFINITELY not a good way to appear sexy to chicks, ESPECIALLY if you're a geek.)
Re:Intelligence (Score:1)
Re:Sexism (Score:2)
--
The Cathedral and the Brassiere (Score:3)
it's him again... (Score:2)
It's the last chapters that are really interesting, and really important. Read them.
And don't care about my
April Fools? (Score:2)
January
Re:Loaded Statements... (Score:2)
I respect your opinion. I do think that you misinterpreted this statement though.
When he is talking about "casual sex" and prudes, he is referring to the Christian church and it's followers, not females. Don't take everything so personally - this was obviously not written for or against you.
Rape is at an epidemic scale, in fact my mom has been a leader in speaking out against such things. However, this is not because of "male dominant attitudes", but because of underlying social problems. In fact, Hollywood has picked up on this and exploit it regularally. Abuse of one sex is always a social problem though. I would enjoy seeing a society where sexes are equal, but I doubt it will happen. Our instincts are to conquer and destroy all who threaten power.
"Hex, Bugs, and Rockn'Roll" --The Programmer's Digest [sufftech.net]
argh (Score:5)
I beg of you, do not read ESR's Sex Tips. I was plauged for months afterward with dreams (nightmares, if anything) of ESR... (shocking!)... with no clothes... (scary!)... doing sexual things! (Now I'm scarred for life!)
It's worse than goatse.cx, I swear. the tips themselves are fine, but the thought of ESR and -- *shudder*
--
tips... (Score:5)
question: is control controlled by its need to control?
answer: yes
The art of the pickup? (Score:5)
DanH
Cav Pilot's Reference Page [cavalrypilot.com]
Re:Saw an early beta of this document... (Score:2)
If You're Really Serious About Women, Read This (Score:2)
This Treatise looks at the process of mating among humans through ETHOLOGY that is the science about instincts. It explains pretty well a lot of "love stories" from the literature and geek problems with the opposite sex as well as my personal experience (both negative and positive). Besides that, it has some practical recommendations for both men and women.
However, the Treatise was originally written in Russian, so it might be somehow alien to the English speaker. For example, position of author on adopted children is not what most people in modern American society would think.
When reading the Treatise, have in mind George Costanza and Kramer as the brightest illustration to the difference between cornet and captain described in the Treatise I've found in the contemporary American subculture so far.
Re:Intelligence (Score:2)
Re:Are you crazy??? (Score:2)
Why? (Score:2)
Re:Intelligence (Score:2)
Re:chix 101 (Score:2)
Loaded Statements... (Score:2)
Like: don't rape, because you wouldn't want to be raped. Most people don't have any trouble following that one.
The United States is a RAPE PRONE society. "Most" people may not have this problem, but it's still epidemic because of the social impression that men are supposed to be dominant and agressive, which this article supports. More than too many of my close female friends have been victim of this sort of activity. I've been a part of Rape Awareness coalition, and it IS F*CKING EPIDEMIC.
Take a look at: RAINN [rainn.org]: It's amazing just how bad it is.
Prudes jump right from this one to "never have casual sex"
Let's just use inflamatory language here. Yea, so if a girl wont screw you on the first date she must be a prude. Language like this leads to "dominant male" attitudes towads women.
Articles like this are interesting, becuase I think it's important for "geeks" to become more social than they often seem to be now. Social does not equal sex. Sex can become something that happens when you're social, and his points to be safe and thoughtful are great. However it's still full of all the old sexist stereotypes that I would hope the more intelligent (?) readers of Slashdot would be able to pick up.
C-out
Getting laid? (Score:4)
Geek Dating Manifesto (Score:3)
However, it doesn't have the pedigree of the Raymond peice. A quick sample:
This is the logic of "geekboy dating":
+ Want someone
+ Can't get them immediately (at all)
+ Declare that you don't want them after all
+ Repeat
If that reads like shampoo instructions, you're getting the picture. If you think that's normal or healthy, you're missing the point.
Definitely worth a read
Check out the Vinny the Vampire [eplugz.com] comic strip
Re:it's all about common interests (Score:2)
Also consider the grocery store. Ask your mom (if you're still at their house - it's not an insult, I live next door to my parents) for her shopping list, pick stuff up. Cute chicks are drawn to young guys with full shopping carts.
You probably won't like this one, but look around for a religious meeting place. Churches are great places to meet women, most of them are young and single. A tip from a professing young single Christian: avoid like the plague both "singles" classes (eg religious meetmarkets) and Bible-thumping congregations (oddly, a good many SBC congregations do not fall into this group). Put on your good manners for the older crowd, smile, talk with the seniors there (LEARN from them, things are not as different now as both you and them might think - some most relevant advice I've received is from an older person wistfully recalling a story about how things were so different back in the day).
Do you really have to have a woman who knows computers? Can't she just have a positive vague opinion of them? Diversity in a relationship is a good thing, IMHO.
Even if you don't find the kind of chick you're looking for in these circles, don't hesitate to make friends, take a female or two out for dinner or something. Girl WILL spread the word that you're a nice guy, and networking is a good thing. It seems that girls instinctively try to hook people up. Once they know what a nice guy is looking for, they will begin to do the searching and interviewing for him. Don't be surprised when they pointedly parade their single, intelligent friends before you.
Take me as I am or don't take me at all (Score:2)
pupils, shrink... from this advice. (Score:3)
... or maybe the bright light is behind you?
the sort of advice he dispenses indicates exactly why geeks should not think to hard about trying to pick up girls. if you are measuring her pupils, you are not in the game.
voulez-vous manger "gach" avec moi, ce soir? (Score:5)
Wow, this is good advice. Anybody know where I can get a Klingon-French dictionary? I'm going to make her shiver...
Grey Tissue? (Score:2)
Johnny's Guide To Dating (Score:2)
Going out to a night club? Here's guarenteed ways to hook up!
chix 101 (Score:5)
HOW TO GET BABES -- A GUIDE FOR GEEKS
Show them your T1 lines and your modifications to the Linux kernel -- they'll be very impressed.
Grunt when they say anything to you -- remember, avoid eye contact at all costs.
Never leave your home -- any babes worthy of your attention will come knocking on your door.
Surf the net for porn, so you know what real women should look like.
Test whether they really love you; never, ever shave or shower.
Don't exercise -- the weak, pudgy mess that you are will evoke maternal feelings of sympathy.
If they talk to you, it means that they love you.
Remember, girls always prefer email to real mail.
Sitting three seats behind them on the bus is a good start.
Become a billioniare -- trade money for babes.
Write the next, killer software app -- your fame will draw them to you.
Remember, what's cool to your geek friends is cool to babes too.
Make them understand that you are more evolved than that hunky football star.
Declare that you are homosexual -- that never fails to interest them; pounce when guard is down.
Babes always go for the stronger man -- duke it out over a game of Quake.
Write a geeky web page.
Use mnemonics to aid communication e.g. Hello == main(){, Goodbye == }
Increase your "reproductive fitness" -- become the Alpha geek of your pack
The woman you're talking to on the net really is female and most likely a babe -- and remember, cybersex is as good as real sex.
chix dig us [antioffline.com]
It really is good advice (Score:2)
This is what I have been saying for ages. Grace is the key. This is why you will see me at parties walking around gracefully, like a ballerina, in my pink armour. I also tend to speak softly, but in a low low voice... It really turns them on. "Hey baby... wanna dance?"
Paper hats are a good tip as well (Score:2)
Re:Sex tip: (Score:2)
get off your ass..... (Score:4)
Because she wouldn't respond well to software (Score:2)
although I hear it happens to all men at somepoint in their lives...
Excuse my laughing - I'm still trying to get over the premise that slashdotters actually *have* sex.