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Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:5, Insightful)
I show up and start slashdotting at 9 AM sharp.
I do the few minutes of actual work that grinding cogs of bureaucracy allow to get done around noon.
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:4, Funny)
I get in a little before 8AM and if it's Monday, immediately deal with the rush of people who drank so much over the weekend they forgot how to do the most basic of tasks that they have been doing everyday for the last decade.
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:3)
Re:Depends on what you mean by (Score:5, Funny)
Only if you have 30 years experience slashdotting. Otherwise they'll hire an H1B.
Re:Depends on what you mean by (Score:0)
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:3)
No, seriously, you don't want that. There's a lot of satisfaction to getting things done, and it's not an enjoyable situation.
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:1)
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you really want to work there? Do you really want to work for a company that cares more about the physical presence of their workers than their ability to do meaningful work?
I told my crew that I don't give half a shit when they show up, when when they do, I expect them to be sober, awake and able to put in 100%. Of course that doesn't work when you're dealing with a lot of client interaction, but the little that we have works out great. Mostly 'cause everyone knows by now that, if you need a specific person, you better call somewhere in the afternoon. That offers you the best chances that they're all here. Of course I have to compromise in some areas, like, say, meetings anywhere outside the 1-3pm bracket are virtually impossible unless I announce them in advance, but the benefits offset that easily. I have a VERY motivated staff that enjoys working on their own hours instead of having to be in when they'd rather be sleeping. The office is staffed from 7am to about midnight without a single minute of overtime, so we can react to any kind of threat and we can do work that can only be done after everyone is gone without the need of overtime pay.
It's just so win-win. The only problem we ever had was with the unions who don't like people working that late without "compensation". It was fun to watch employers and employees sitting on one side of the discussion and the union on the other end. Kinda makes you wonder who they represented in that case...
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:2)
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:1)
Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late. I use the side door - that way my boss can't see me, after that I just sort of space out for about an hour. I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.
Re:Depends on what you mean by "start" (Score:2)
I get to my desk around 7:30am, I might start actually working sometime after the 9:00 stand up. :) Maybe.
Here at 8, start at 9. (Score:2)
in the early bracket. (Score:3)
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:5, Funny)
Have you considered solutions to the stress that introduces in your life?
I have heard numerous people had success with therapy, medication, office mass shootings, or just simple things like getting more exercise.
What would work for you?
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:0)
Have you considered solutions to the stress that introduces in your life?
I have heard numerous people had success with therapy, medication, office mass shootings, or just simple things like getting more exercise.
What would work for you?
Most of my problems are other people; the last thing I need to do is to talk to other people about my problems. I prefer figuring out the work around for myself. If I can't, it's something wrong about me that needs to be changed.
Therapy is for those that like to talk about what they're never going to do as if they're going to do it. Medication is the chemical version of chains and masking tape.
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:0)
i apologize for contradicting, but you're dead wrong about therapy. your phrasing is such that it seems like you've never tried it. whatever the reason for your misjudgment, perhaps you should at least restrain yourself from denigrating it.
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:0)
There's a line from Hyperbole and Half's Adventures in Depression [blogspot.ca] that's stuck with me for a while:
"But trying to use willpower to overcome the apathetic sort of sadness that accompanies depression is like a person with no arms trying to punch themselves until their hands grow back. A fundamental component of the plan is missing and it isn't going to work."
After a year and a half, she finally posted again [blogspot.ca], and it looks like the drugs worked for her.
I'm not saying you're depressed, but if stuff isn't working out, you don't have to it all on your own. It may not be possible for you to do it all on your own. People are and always will be idiots but that doesn't mean they don't want to help or that their help won't do you any good.
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:1)
in the early bracket. (Score:2)
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:0)
Cry me a river. My shift starts at 12a.
I have no idea what time that is. 12:00 can be noon, or it can be midnight, but it is neither before noon (am) nor after noon (pm)-- or else it is both after and before noon.
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
Cry me a river. My shift starts at 12a.
I have no idea what time that is. 12:00 can be noon, or it can be midnight, but it is neither before noon (am) nor after noon (pm)-- or else it is both after and before noon.
I agree that it's confusing but the consensus among people and machines is that 12a is midnight while 12p is noon.
I tend to avoid that hour for that reason so I usually end up doing 11:59p or 11:59a if I need to deal with 12.
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
Much easier when using a 24 hour clock. 1200 is noon. 2400 or 0000 is midnight.
What time is 12 am (Score:2)
It's only confusing to idiots.
People who think it's only confusing to idiots are idiots, because they're too stupid to be confused,
I might have had some trouble with it in the first grade or two but I pretty soon learned that 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon.
Just because you don't understand that it's confusing doesn't mean it's not confusing.
NIST: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688... [nist.gov]
NPL http://www.npl.co.uk/science-t... [npl.co.uk] :
And, for more examples of "confusing," see the discussion at The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/not... [theguardian.com]
Re:What time is 12 am (Score:1, Informative)
People who think it's only confusing to idiots are idiots, because they're too stupid to be confused,
People who think those are idiots who are too stupid to be confused and think its only confusing to idiots are idiots easily confused by boundary conditions.
If you can't tell whether 12:00 pm is in the daytime or not, just add one minute, and then tell me whether or not the sun is out.
If that doesn't clear it up for you, then guess what... you're the idiot.
(People who live within the Arctic Circle are not excused. You have to be an idiot to live there anyway.)
(People who live within the Antarctic Circle aren't excused, either. You have to be a scientist to live there, and should know better.)
Noon- neither before nor after noon [Re:What t...] (Score:2)
It's only confusing to idiots.
People who think it's only confusing to idiots are idiots, because they're too stupid to be confused,
People who think those are idiots who are too stupid to be confused and think its only confusing to idiots are idiots easily confused by boundary conditions.
I will repeat what NIST says ( you've heard of NIST? The National Institute of Standards and Technology? They're the people in charge of timekeeping in the US.):
Since noon is neither before noon nor after noon, a designation of either a.m. or p.m. is incorrect.
As for your proposal that you can tell whether noon is before noon or after noon by "just add one minute", that has no logic. The whole concept of a boundary is that things change as you cross it. This makes just as much sense as answering the question of whether zero is a positive or a negative number by saying "just add one, and then you can clearly see that it's positive."
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:0)
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
5:30AM!? I just can't stay up that late these days...
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
Personally, I find that starting work at 9 splits my day up too much. I get up at 6 anyway on account of he kids. That gives me 3 hours until I start working. Usually those 3 hours are wasted because there's not enough time to do anything useful, and there aren't many stores open if I need to run errands. If i could start work at 7:30, and leave at 3:30, it would be great because that's the time I could easily get into work at waking up at my usual time. I wouldn't waste any time in the morning, and I'd have plenty of time after work to actually do stuff instead of not finishing dinner and dishes until 7, and only having a few hours left until I need to go to bed anyway.
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
Re:in the early bracket. (Score:2)
that sucks, I work 7 1/2 hour days. This includes multiple breaks and a 1 hour lunch.
Stay at home dad (Score:1)
About two months ago I decided to be a stay at home dad and I don't consider this much joy to be work.
Re:Stay at home dad (Score:2)
Re:Stay at home dad (Score:2)
What, you think he does the laundry, scrubs the toilets, and cooks dinner? Every day?
Re:Stay at home dad (Score:0)
*fap*
8:00AM (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:8:00AM (Score:2)
Jesus, man, just pick the one that fits you most times. If you're usually early, pick the former, else pick the latter.
Re:8:00AM (Score:2)
You never hit traffic, or do you actually arrive early but then wait in the car until "at 8:00AM"? This would be "between 6:00 AM and 8:00" if that is the case.
I used to work with a guy just like that. Would not start work until 8:00 on the dot, but he was in the parking lot at 7:30-7:45 on most days. At 11:25 he would start to clean up for lunch, at if he was done before 11:30 he stood at his desk and walked away at 11:30 sharp. Always back by about 12:25 and would wait to open back up until exactly 12:30. Then at 4:55 he would lock up for the night, and stand at his desk again until 5:00 PM on the dot.
I could see reasons for this based on some things the company had done in the past, but this guy was holding a grudge for a decade. I'd quit before I became a robot like this guy.. but to each their own.
Re:8:00AM (Score:2)
I show up at 8:00AM, so right between the 'Between 6 a.m. and 8 a.m.' and 'Between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m.' options.
--
"Why isn't there anything just for me? Is that so selfish?"
What an appropriate sig!
Re:8:00AM (Score:2)
I show up at 8:00AM, so right between the 'Between 6 a.m. and 8 a.m.' and 'Between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m.' options.
Don't get upset about the angry replies you are getting, because you are absolutely on the spot. We're nerds and should be precise about stuff like this, goddammit. If you generally try to arrive at 8:00am (minus/plus some minutes), the poll indeed makes it ambiguous to select between two choices.
Mathematically, either one of the "8:00am"s should be a limes value to solve this problem.
Or, another way to write it would be "After 6am and before 8am" and "After 8am and before 10am".
Re:8:00AM (Score:0)
You realise that you're just making yourself look like the picky cunt while trying to chastise someone else, right?
Peter Gibbons (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Peter Gibbons (Score:2)
Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late. I use the side door, that way Lumbergh can't see me. Uh, and after that, I just sorta space out for about an hour.
I tried that. Then my manager scheduled a meeting for 9:07, "because that's when you come in". Ah.
Re:Peter Gibbons (Score:2)
I am never late, nor early. I arrive precisely when I mean to.
When I was working... (Score:4, Insightful)
I used to show up at work before 6 and leave after 19. I only did this three days a week, though. It was totally at my discretion how I put in my 40 hours, but it was too long a drive to do it more often, and driving during rush hours was also not appealing.
But since I am long retired, I chose the last option.
8:30 AM here (Score:2)
Have had most shifts at some point. (Score:1)
Current one is "get your work done, be available for emergencies at your customers' sites between 8A-5P your local time." (Which does *NOT* correspond to 8A-5P local time of my customers. My customers have a 3-hour variation, one end of which corresponds to my local time.)
So as long as I am able to answer my cell phone at 8 AM, I'm good. That said, I do try to make it in to the office no later than 8:30 AM, simply because it is a lot easier to help my customers when they have an emergency while I'm in the office - and I don't want to have to "pause" dealing with it to drive in.
Of course, I also have a one-week "on-call" once every 3-4 months - and during that time, I'm *on* 24/7. Ironically, my normal business hours are the time I have the MOST leeway - if I have a particularly bad night (yes, there have been times when the on-call tech has been busy from 5P continuously to 8A,) they let us take off the normal work day. But off hours? Nope, if you're the on-call guy, you're it. Only being truly SWAMPED with work while on-call can you call to have someone else join you. (As in "Hey, I'm already working three issues simultaneously, could you hop on and help out, too?") Thankfully that's rare. During the 7-day on-call, we average 8-10 calls during the off-hours, totaling 5-15 hours of active work during the off hours. (This last weekend was one of those rare exceptions - on-call guy was working nonstop from 8P Sat to 6P Sun. Yay botched monthly maintenance window!)
The Long Tail (Score:3)
As a remote worker, my work day is stretched like taffy. I wake up at 6am and check for "Rome is burning" emails. After a cup of coffee I respond to emails from our offshore team. Real work starts around 8am and ends around 5pm. Email and other small tasks continue until 10pm bedtime. /. reading occurs intermittently from 6am to 10pm.
Re:The Long Tail (Score:3)
"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Granny Lumpitt - 1972
Re:Stop it (Score:2)
I guess I didn't explain the whole day. The upside is that I can do personal stuff in between, like run to the store, jump in the pool, take a long lunch, watch the kids ballgame, etc. The point I am making is that instead of a contiguous 8 hour day, it is spread out along my awake time.
we scrub at 5:30. (Score:1)
Re:we scrub at 5:30. (Score:2)
Scrub what, potatoes and carrots?
What could possibly need scrubbing at 5:30 AM...
Re:we scrub at 5:30. (Score:0)
Going to guess scrubbing as in putting on scrubs in the healthcare industry.
Re:we scrub at 5:30. (Score:2)
Government (Score:1)
I quit my job that had me coming in at 6am and leaving at 6 pm then on call for the "off" hours and weekends. Now to be fair I really only had to be there for 8 hours a day, but there was just so much to do that you couldn't just put in your 8. Got a job with the government and now I work from 8:30am to 4:30pm with two 20 min coffee breaks and an hour for lunch. If you try to stay past 4:30 the manager throws you out and tells you it will wait until tomorrow.
Re:Government (Score:0)
An hour long lunch break, sounds like customer service job.
6:30am (Score:1)
I work for an international company. When my alarm goes up, I roll over pick up the Blackberry and go through my messages from the previous night. It shows me what kind of day I'm going to have and whether I have time for breakfast before starting my day.
Comment removed (Score:2)
Used to be hourly (Score:2)
As a late teenager/early twentysomething getting up in the mornings was really, really awful. It's gotten easier in the last few years, even moreso once I got out of a position that I was miserable in and into ones more suited to my interests. I don't think that enough supervisors understand how that works and schedule their staffs to where they get both coverage and help make it easier for the employees to work.
Ah? (Score:0)
You insensible clod, I am 41. And nobody hires me even for toss windows 8.1 DVDs to the dumpster.
Self Employment (Score:1)
Means you never start today because you never finished yesterday, it just blends in to one big blur of work...
8 'til 4 ... (Score:2)
So
Disability Retirement (Score:2)
I'm on a disability retirement. I "work" on my pet project when I feel like it. But even that is more hobby than work.
Housework, now that's *work*. So is weeding the garden.
And that's about all I do that I officially call "work" nowadays. :P :P :P
How'd your Monday go? I slept in until 10AM. :P
Disability Retirement (Score:0)
"How'd your Monday go? I slept in until 10AM. :P"
I woke up at 7:30AM and was not disabled when I got up at 7:35AM. I even felt a bit thankfull for not being disabled. Being very healthy and not at all disabled I left to work happily at around 8:00AM, got there at 8:15AM.
Customers in the east (Score:4, Interesting)
I get in to the office nominally at 8, but usually get in a bit earlier, like 0740.
Since I'm on Pacific time and almost everybody I deal with is on Central and Eastern time, I consider it a courtesy to them to be in the office promptly. At one time I had a job that got me over to Paris and Brussels quite a bit, but the "engineering" folks were the sort who rarely showed up in the office before 1000. This is getting kinda late in western Europe when you need to work with somebody to solve a problem. Since I was in the office earliest I took most of the calls from Europe, and, oddly enough, was the one invited to fly over and help them figure things out.
...laura
Re:Customers in the east (Score:2)
I have a few friends working at multinationals here in the UK, who sometimes have to stay at work very late because developers in California refuse to come in to work before 10:00, or to have meetings before 12:00 (20:00 here). I thought it was rude and arrogant, and couldn't understand why it was tolerated.
Re:Customers in the east (Score:1)
I don't disagree with you. I'd rather go out of my way than inconvenience someone else. However, could it be that the bulk of the workforce was stationed around the pacific rim, thus it would be rude and arrogant to expect them all to change their habits for the handful of people off in the UK?
I say this largely because I have found that the default thought is believing Americans are arrogant and rude even in the face of contrary evidence. For instance, some time ago I worked at a modest manufacturing firm in Michigan that was producing stainless parts for BMW that could not be done economically in Germany. There was this air in the workplace that us, the Americans, were expensive and uncooperative even though we ran everything on Munich time and were the only people in the world that could produce the quality components that was needed at the cost wanted. Somehow I suspect that mirrors the relationship that Chinese firms have with the west. Being thought of as all sorts of bad things while delivering everything western organizations want.
Re:Customers in the east (Score:2)
I don't disagree with you. I'd rather go out of my way than inconvenience someone else. However, could it be that the bulk of the workforce was stationed around the pacific rim, thus it would be rude and arrogant to expect them all to change their habits for the handful of people off in the UK?
I understand that to a point, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask that the staff in California (no matter how many there are in each location) are present at work at the normal American time of 9am.
Re:Customers in the east (Score:1)
Academics.. (Score:2)
I'm an academic. 97% soft money research. So my average start time is 11am, but the range is 8am to 1pm. And the work week is anything from 5 to 80 hours depending on where I am in the grant writing / actually doing shit cycle.
Re:Academics.. (Score:1)
Re:Academics.. (Score:2)
Yeah. I figure I may as well enjoy it while it lasts, because I don't expect to manage to keep 100% coverage in this economic climate for all that much longer.
Re:Academics.. (Score:2)
Re:Academics.. (Score:2)
"People that get selected for studying towards higher degrees often are set in their ways, and are bewildered at any deviation"
Ahh, you've met my department I see!
Military (Score:2)
Had the same sort of experience working at a Headquarters for the military.
There was this Lt. Colonel that would occasionally stand be the entrance recording and reporting on all the guys that arrived even one minute after 0800. Somehow never saw him at 1900 when those of us that were a bit late in the morning finally got to leave for the day, mostly because he was out the door at 1630 share.
Definitely don't miss those types of idiots. Now is show up sometime between 0800 and 0900 and leave when the work is done.
Depends what you consider the "start" of the day (Score:2)
Out of bed by 5:00, because Monday to Friday I am on-call for "the shit hits the fan" stuff at the office from 5:30. I then start doing actual work at 7:00. For weekends and vacations, I am on call from 07:00. And yes, I am paid a lot extra for being on call :) One of the benefits of unionization!
How I start my day... (Score:2)
Start -> Day -> FeedHorse.exe
Start -> Day -> Breakfast.exe
Start -> Day -> Drive.exe
Start -> Day -> Desk.exe
Start -> Day -> WorkWhileEveryoneElseInMeetingsTalkingAboutWork.exe
How I start my day... (Score:1)
I wouldn't let anything with .exe at the end of its name look after my animals personally, but top marks for automation.
Timezone issues.... (Score:1)
Depends on the timezone I'm at and the calibration of my watch.
Early...every single day.... (Score:2)
Work Day Never Ends (Score:1)
My workday never ends. I have a laptop with me 24/7 and need to be reachable by cell phone. I get to the office around 8:00 AM, but I may have already been working on a problem for hours beforehand (Usually when our users in Europe break something).
I may get into work late... (Score:1)
Timezone ? (Score:2)
Re:Timezone ? (Score:2)
typical software engineer / computer scientist (Score:2)
I usually arrive between 9:30am and 10:00am...and typically stay until 5:30pm to 6:30pm. Most people in my office come in between 9:00am and 10:00am.
I but don't sleep in late, my kid gets me up at 7am...I just hang out with him and read the news and chill a bit before leaving the house around 9:15am.
my work week. (Score:0)
into work at around 8am every mon-fri +/- 10 mins either way depending on traffic.
mon-thurs leave at 4:55pm to beat traffic home.
friday leave anytime after 37.5 weekly hours are up (around 1:15pm most weeks).
Software developer (Score:0)
Work begins in the 8-9 AM range (usually 8:45 for me, as that's when the train is).
We have a minimum lunch break of 45 minutes (max is 2 hours i think).
Get out after a total 8 hours of work.
Basically Basically you can get in anywhere from 8 to 9 and out anywhere from 17 to 18:30, as long as you do your 8 hours.
Coffee breaks count as work time. (10-15 minutes each. Usually 2, sometimes 3 a day.)
To minimize impact of road tolls (Score:2)
I start working before 06:00 CET in the morning and leave before 15:00 CET (and same for daylight savings).
That AM/PM stuff that's used in the US is not working well in Europe.
I've had a variety of starts.. (Score:2)
..But my current one is definitely my favorite.
I get up at 6:30 AM, relax, and breathe a bit before getting ready. At 7:30 I bike to work, and walk in the doors at 7:45. I check for "holy shit" e-mails, then clock in around 7:55. Hour lunch. Leave at 5, and once I'm gone, I don't have to think about work.
Plus, I make more money with this job than I have any other gig.
Prior jobs include systems manager for a newspaper (on-call 24/7, and believe me, they called - plus I usually worked 7 AM to 7 PM, salaried), artist for same newspaper before that. Left the newspaper industry to go work for a dot com where I had to live and breathe the job, got laid off, went back to the newspaper industry where I worked 3 different shifts depending on the week (some days I'd go in at 3 PM and work until 2 AM, others I go in at 7 and work until 6 PM).
Family man (Score:0)
Before I had a son, my day usually started around 8, now...it starts when he need a diaper changed. I keep telling myself, some day the shoe will be on the other foot and he might be the one changing my diapers in the early AM.
Summer Hours (Score:2)
My natural tendency (Score:2)
Yet when I go to bed early and start work around 6am I am uber productive. Often noon rolls around and I have done at least a full day's work.
On a side note I have learned to not surf anything until the end of my work day. This would include slashdot, reddit, etc. Not only are they time burners but I think some part of my brain is then spending the rest of the incorporating what I have "learned" from these sites instead of focusing on the task at hand.
probably the LAMEST poll on /. (Score:0)
Ever
Yeah, that'd be great. (Score:0)
I usually show up at the crack of 9:30, roast a couple of bowls by lunchtime, take a nap after, and make up for showing up late by leaving early.
The night time is the right time (Score:1)
Missing answers: (Score:2)
Bleh. (Score:2)
Perfect option for a change (Score:2)
Second shift.. (Score:2)
Depends on which day (Score:1)
Sometimes it's 10 am. Fridays it's 8 to 9 am. Next month it's 8 am.
Define Typical.