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"It ain't so much the things we don't know that get us in trouble. It's the things we know that ain't so." -- Artemus Ward aka Charles Farrar Brown
Better question (Score:4, Funny)
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Seamonkey as myself, very locked down (even /. is not NoScript whitelisted)
Firefox as myself, but very locked down, only having some NoScript whitelist entries
Firefox as a very unprivileged user, but that user has Flash for itself, only
Firefox as another unprivileged user, but with video codecs, 'cause "just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
Every instance is also running other ad/tracker/script/... blockers
Re:Better question (Score:5, Funny)
There are wary people, and then there are paranoid people, and then there's you :)
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How many of the others have NEVER had a virus/trojan/... on any OS or version including Windows 3.11 and 98SE (plus AmigaDOS, OSX, Linux (since '96), SunOS, Solaris, and Windows 2000), while still fetching Windows game updates from the 'net and buying online?
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"unprivileged" wont stop you from getting infected.
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Being proud that Win 3.11 stayed infection-free 20 years ago doesn't impress me :)
YOu have to balance risk versus risk mitigation effort. Striking the balance is key to sanity. An extreme absolute would be disconnecting from Internet and accessing localost only, and you're VERY close to that.
I don't take any special precautionary measures and my last virus infection was 8 years ago, I think, and that was because of me, I disabled the antivirus to overwrite its alarms while installing a crack for a game I re
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Unless your security is fundamentally broken, you'd still have to authorise throwaway_user to access the X server. Not quite that easy, and not quite that secure. I'd rather just boot a virtual machine.
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Yeah and then you want to sync bookmarks, save a ile you reach and want to download, get a PDF to read, etc., etc. Plain browsing without taking advantage of anything else? Bland.
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All you need are the video codecs for the vast majority of the content on the web. Can't say I've heard of much PDF porn.
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Porn flip books maybe?
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So you've never had a virus you've detected. Good on you.
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The only time I have ever had one of my PCs infected was when I intentionally got my isolated test machine infected. Yes, I use Windows 7, and I haven't used an antivirus in years. Every so often (3-6 months) I'll update Malwarebytes and run a scan, but it never finds anything. My firewall also doesn't show any unauthorized activity. Of course, I also use Firefox and Chrome almost exclusively for browsing, and I'm very careful what sites I go to, and what I download. A little knowledge and smart browsing is
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never been infected
do you think I'd be taking all those precautions if I didn't have a way to verify the utility? simplest of the checks is off-line (as in boot to a live CD (there was a bsd disk for the Amiga, for example)) and "off-line" check all the system files and utilities signatures (mostly various forms of *sum). ruins the uptime of my Linux boxes, though.
I've used honey pots on decommissioned systems to be sure I can see at least some of what happens.
Re:Better question (Score:5, Funny)
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...unless you count friction burns to the ventral surface of the right manus.
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I had a close encounter a few weeks ago while trying to catch a stream of a Grand Prix (yeah I'm a feckin' cheapskate. No I'm not, I just don't see the point of forking out for a sports package when all I'll watch is the F1), the codec package that the website wanted me to install (with its super duper programme manager) reset my homepage, fucked up my cache (had to empty it completely), inserted itself into the registry, insinuated itself into Media Centre and basically cost me a day ripping the rest of th
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yeah - my first question was "in which browser?"
I have IE, Firefox, and Chrome up right now, and all have at least one tab open. IE I think was due to an update; Chrome is my default browser, but I use Firefox sometimes.
Only 20? (Score:5, Funny)
Real answer: More than 100. Screw bookmarks.
Re:Only 20? (Score:5, Insightful)
100 is more than 20.
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Assuming you are serious (Score:2)
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It seems to me that when you get into the 3-digit range, just finding the exact tab you are looking for gets to be time consuming (defeating the purpose).
Also, RAM usage goes up with each tab. I've seen half a gig of RAM used in Opera, and AVG pops up a little "heh you are using a lot of RAM in Opera" prompt at around the quarter gig mark. Are you not using your machin
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Some of us have a. a sufficient amount of RAM, b. a stable OS (not MS Windows), and c. apparently a browser that is quite stable, despite reports from various people of it not being so..., for me it's Firefox.
You can also use windows to sort your tabs. So, all the tabs related to project or issue A are in one window, and B in another window. That makes it easier to find specific tabs. (And, Firefox also has a group tabs thingy, which might be useful.)
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You can also use windows to sort your tabs
You said it!
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I typically have about 2-6 windows open, each with 3-12 tabs in each.
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I searched and found at least 3 add-ons to do this in Opera. Noticed that the most popular only had 100,000 downloads. Doesn't sound very well supported at this time.
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No add on required.
Right click link. Then choose among the five ways to open that link.
These might be affected by your settings
There are also other shortcuts like "shift + control + left
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I can only assume you are joking.
Four or five hundred seems to be the upper bound of the point where Firefox becomes unusable. It crashes so often and operates so slowly that it becomes a log jam.
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That's OK, because long before then your brain will log jam. What is the use case for four or five hundred tabs? Testing?
Re:Over 1000 (Score:5, Interesting)
Quite the opposite, I find.
Tabs grow in a Window in an organic manner, spreading out from the threads that spawned them in a way specific to where and when I encountered them. Not only is it easier to find them but the very patterns that they form contain information about them that would be lost if the were bookmarked or otherwise organised.
I suppose it might be possible to categorize everything that interests me in a way that preserved that information but the effort involved would be significant compared to opening them in a new tab and leaving that tab open until it no longer holds my immediate attention.
I periodically weed my tab collection and close stuff or bookmark it if it seems fitting but the core collection of tabs are pretty consistent.
I find this aids my thought processes. It is so easy to get distracted and forget what one was thinking or reading hours/days/weeks ago, it is immensely helpful to have it all still lying open in front of you exactly where you left it when it first caught your attention.
Re:Over 1000 (Score:5, Insightful)
I am the "Over 1000" AC above (I know, no proof, but meh). You are using my browser technique: open a new tab for each link and close it when you have followed all interesting links from that page. This means you have a working set of 10 to 20 pages on small problems and 100 or more on larger problems. If you are working on multiple problems simultaneously, it's easy to crack 1000.
I like your description of the way that multi-tab usage records the way you explored a problem. I find that frequently I remember one tab and on finding it see that the adjacent tab has stuff I now understand. It's brilliant (when Firefox isn't so bogged down it's unusable.)
My main problem is my weeding is infrequent and ineffective. The browser fights against you here. It is slow and cumbersome and does not provide useful tools. Clearly browser authors are not like us. There's not much to like about browsers these days.
You are only partly right though about my truthfulness. Even though I have a 16GB machine largely dedicated to running the browser (curse you Firefox and your obscene memory wastage!) Firefox wedges or crashes periodically and when I restart, I select "Restore Previous Session" from the "History" menu. Firefox doesn't really open these pages until you click on them and thus while I have over 1000 pages open right now, most of them are dormant from the last crash recovery.
Firefox indeed can only handle a few hundred open-and-active pages before it chokes on its own inefficiency. It burns multiple cpu cores on idle loops. It's pathetic really. It seems so much less than I was promised back when browsers first turned up.
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You're like a hoarder. Only you hoard tabs.
Hmm... Coming soon on Fox! Tab Hoarders!
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Is there some benefits of having that many tabs open or is it just a bad habit?
Yes.
To anwer your intended question too:
I think it's a bad habbit. There is however merit for some tabs to remain open if you check them often or refer to them etc.
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I'm not parent, but, I've got 387 tabs open on 7 windows. I also have another two or three windows open on my laptop with another couple hundred or so, also on my desk. No crashes of freezes in weeks. I hardly ever reboot my computers, and that's the only time I ever close my browser (and when I open it again, I open all my old tabs too). Browser is perfectly stable. Things only get bad around the 500 mark. Safari on OS X, FYI.
I periodically go through and trim things down, bookmark stuff I want to get back
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The only problems I've had are using too much memory, not any other instability. I'm using Chromium, and it does slowly leak (either the browser itself, or javascript on whatever pages I'm on). When the size gets problematic, I go into the task manager and blow away large-footprint subprocesses which error-pages some number of tabs. F5 restores a page from that state. Since the pages which get killed in such situations vary, I'm more suspect of the browser itself being the leak source then any particula
Missing options (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't like tabs, I run multiple windows.
Re:Missing options (Score:5, Funny)
I don't like multiple windows; I run multiple virtualized operating systems.
Re:Missing options (Score:5, Funny)
I don't like multiple virtualized operating systems; I prefer at least one geographically distinct server farm per webpage.
Re:Missing options (Score:5, Funny)
I don't like geographically distinct server farms; I run independent intergalactic civilizations.
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I don't like independent intergalactic civilizations; I just view a web page right in my terminal.
Re:Missing options (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Missing options (Score:5, Funny)
The subject was web browsers, not emacs.
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I don't like direct bit manipulation at gate level, I prefer polarised quantum entanglement.
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I don't like independent intergalactic civilizations. I just run parallel universes.
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That still creates multiple overlapping windows. I prefer an extra monitor for each page, and I've got 12 open right now.
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Nope, my browser has no tabs when there is only one webpage showing. So no, I have zero tabs. If I force the browser to open a page in a new tab, I would have two, but currently I have exactly zero, because tabs are silly space wasting things when you don't need them.
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Well, if you disable the tab bar in Firefox, then there are no tabs, are there... I also have my Firefox set up to not display any menu items for creating tabs. But these days, I use mostly Chromium, so yes, there is a tab bar that I have yet to disable ...
Mostly I open multiple windows. I often "shade" them (minimize to title-bar) and move these around in 2D on the desk. I reorder them and group them, with spaces between groups. With Window Maker, I can even select multiple windows and move them around at
Useful? (Score:3)
If I was doing something useful, I'd easily reach 20 tabs. But I only read /. while idle.
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If I was doing something useful, I'd easily reach 20 tabs. But I only read /. while idle.
Where "something useful" defined as "looking for porn."
every link (Score:2)
seeing people do that is one thing that makes my eye twitch, dunno why, really should not care, never say anything but yea following links from a home page to 20 pages deep to find something, tab tab tab tab tab
dam it 404-ed and firefox is eating 2 gigs of ram (bitch how bad firefox is) , close close close close close
theres a freaking back button come on (twitch) its not like you did some complicated search to get that far!
Re:every link (Score:5, Funny)
I tried a 64bit build of Firefox, that helped.
By "help", I meant help Firefox eat 12 gigs of mem.
Re:every link (Score:5, Insightful)
Looks like I've got about 240 tabs open at the moment.
That's pretty conservative for me, it's often much worse. I like having my train of thought where I can see it and access it instantly.
It annoys me that it causes so much instability in Firefox,
I do not think the web browser is to blame here. You are using tabs in a way they weren't designed for.
Obligatory car analogy: Don't blame the car if the engine uses a lot of gas and makes a lot of noise if you normally keep it revved just below redline, just in case you need it. Yes, the car will do that, but it's not the manufacturer who's responsible when the engine breaks, and you'll have to put up with a lot of rolled eyes.
Try using the history instead of most of your tabs. If set to "View by last visited", you have your breadcrumbs, without having to keep a copy of every page parsed and rendered and all the javascript, style sheets and flash loaded in case you ever want to flip to it (and chances are low that you will, if you "normally" have more than 240 of them. You can even search the history. Or get it auto-grouped by site if you want to. Or you can right-click an entry and bookmark it.
For the last few (default 50 for each tab) pages, you don't even have to open the history - just pressing and holding the back button will show them, and let you go to any one of them.
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Re:every link (Score:4, Informative)
Oh dog. The pebkac apologist. You cannot protect the user from all possible things programs might allow but were not designed to do.
You don't get a warning when you put a hundred thousand files in one directory. You don't get a warning if you enter a macro that fills in half a million cells in Excel. You don't get a warning if you start a render that may take fifty years to finish.
You do not get a warning for most of the things you can do that will bog down a system. That doesn't mean they were designed to do them for normal operations, or that it's a smart thing to do. Common sense is required, and common sense tells me that keeping hundreds of web pages with javascript, flash and whatnot loaded and parsed is going to slow down the system at best.
It's in the nature of general purpose computers to give users enough rope to hang themselves with. If users do, the solution isn't to bog down the system even more by attempting to check for every combination of things a user can do that might cause problems. At best, you try to make sure programs crash gracefully, and don't dumb and slow them down beyond reason, punishing users with common sense to protect those who lack it.
Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should, or that it's normal to do so. Having the freedom to do things without everything being controlled in detail is a great boon. But with it comes an equally great responsibility for your own actions.
If you're not confident in using a general purpose computer without causing problems for yourself, use a strong walled environment. You won't get as much rope.
Nor as many possibilities.
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BS. With computers is the exact opposite: only because you CAN do it, you SHOULD do it.
Don't come me with some stupid car analogy or chopsticks. That is software we are talking about. You should do whatever you feel like with it and break it. If it will break it's the fault of the software developer. What ever the user is doing with the software should and need to be considered "normal".
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BS. With computers is the exact opposite: only because you CAN do it, you SHOULD do it.
In that case, you SHOULD format your system drive, because you CAN.
And nothing of value will be lost.
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I could do it easily. If nothing, I would learn not to do it and I would learn how to restore my system.
That is pretty much like I learn almost everything about computers and software: by breaking it and repairing it.
But I know that is not welcomed by Apple, Microsoft and others "wallet garden". They want to pay expensive support, repairs or just buy new devices.
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The problem I post a lot of comments, submit links, etc. Many web sites, including /., like to add time limits to prevent floodings. At least tabs will be saved with form datas if my web browser is closed (crashed, exited to to free up resources, etc.). :(
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Bah, still annoying. :P
Guess which side of the border (Score:2)
I am using tabs the way I want to use them.
And you're free to do just that, but when the way you want differs from the way something was designed to operate, you take on the responsibility for it working, and have no reason to complain.
You can choose to store all your images in an Excel spreadsheet too, if that's the way you want to use it, but it wasn't designed for that purpose, and when you notice problems and limitations due to your non-standard usage, don't complain to Microsoft, and if you complain online, don't expect to be taken seriously.
'You're doing it wrong' is a ludicrous and unconstructive response.
If
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Are you on some kind of committee "What Tabs Are Designed To Do"?
I don't think he is doing anything wrong, and if he wants to open 1024 tabs so be it.
I myself open for each link a new tab. Thanks to addons that show me the tabs on the left side I can open 45 tabs without scrolling.
Firefox don't use up any CPU cycles on pages I'm not currently at and RAM I have more then enough.
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I agree, you are being unconstructive.
Tabbed browsing unlocked a very useful and to most people, a very desirable way to work.
However, since it made the way people browse more efficient, it also exposes vast amounts of severe bugs and inefficiencies that all the major browsers have.
It is absolutely absurd that even 1000 tabs could come close to the limits of a modern PC.
And if you have a lot of RAM, you should be able to have maybe 4000 tabs.
The only reasons you still can't do that is because:
The UI still n
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I just open firefox, look at the shit I want to, then close firefox, now how many crashes a day I have
zero, none, jack squat and its taking a quite surprising 145meg right now but I have been through about a dozen websites at this point this morning.
here is a fun game I like to play with a kid at work, lets say we are in a meeting "can someone quote me a number from the datasheet" he always says with pride "I have it open in firefox" and proceeds do dig though 100 tabs looking for it.
meanwhile I will google
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just refresh, it will load the most current version for you
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this does not make since to me, if I dont want to read it now I wont open it now, and if it continually updates, like a slashdot page, I can always roll back
Not answering. (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm boycotting these ridiculous polls.
Where are the cowboyneal options?
Say, 'One tab for every heart CowboyNeal has broken'
That's just an idea. In the end, it is up to the editors. But by gawd, CowboyNeal options used to bring a little light into my day and helped, maybe just a little, to bring together this diffuse group of sysadmins and other assorted computer folk.
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CowboyNeal is dead. Move on.
Did Netcraft confirm it?
or windows (Score:2)
>20 if you consider windows to be "tabs"
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Stop using MSIE 6. It will do you the world of good.
Proportional to coding (Score:2)
If I am working on a project the tabs open can grow quite a bit as I keep helpful tabs open for reference. Outside of that, it is generally five or less, often one will be the weather/radar.
Zero, Not a Terminal (Score:2)
I am on a browser. My browser has tabs. "Always show the tab bar" is unchecked. Slashdot is the only thing loaded. So: No tabs are open.
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I agree. I don't think it becomes a tab until you have more than one page open.
Terminal browser != zero tabs (Score:2)
ELinks, for instance, supports tabs.
Personal Outlier (Score:2)
Right now, only one, but only because I'm giving /. one more read before I go and I've already closed all my other tabs. I'm usually in the 10-20 tab range, often split between two browsers.
Which should I pick? (Score:2)
6 tabs AND I'm reading /. on a terminal.
w3m browser, and BTW this post was written with nvi.
I've got 62 tabs in this win, 16 wins cet instance (Score:2)
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Then I counted my windows and realized that I've got 16 windows open on cet instance of iceweasel running on a different workspace (NE), and that I've got another instance of iceweasel running with different cookie and noscript settings which has
-- 4 windows open
---- (a) has 8 tabs
---- (b) has 4 tabs
Ask a real poll, like: (Score:2)
What size/resolution is your monitor.
Does running windows make you feel all dirty.
Are you running encrypted filesystems
When was the last time you re-installed your OS
If your phone company or phone manufacturer or google can do just about anything on your phone....should you use it to log in anywhere? Is ssh on a phone a joke?
When was the last time you heard of a "computer club" or users group? Are they dead?
Whats in your "the zombies are coming" and the shit has hit the fan bag? How many firearms do y
120! (Score:2)
Currently 120 tabs in one Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.17.1 web browser window. ;)
I have to be careful with too many tabs or else my web browser would get too slow, bloated, etc. with its crazy memory leaks (1,184,028 KB RAM + 1,241,136 KB VM) in my updated, Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine.
12 windows, 83 tabs (Score:2)
Pretty much the norm for me for a very long time. At least my browsers don't crash as much as they used to and I no longer run out of RAM.
1800 tabs (Score:2)
4 Tabs (Score:2)
4 at the moment.
2 eBay tabs
1 for Slashdot
1 for the Guild Wars 2 forums.
Re:Tabs in this window? On this desktop? (Score:5, Funny)
Well, that explains how Anonymous Coward manages making so many Slashdot posts...
Re:Tabs in this window? On this desktop? (Score:5, Funny)
Be patient! A few years after first grade, you'll get to learn about all sorts of different punctuation. You'll also get to enjoy a rich variety of literature that transcends the simplistic "See Spot run." style of written communication. Reading and writing can be far more fun and flexible than the stultifying rules you are taught in first grade --- a world of literary excitement awaits you!
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Dude, did you even look for a job today?
Today, he did go downtown...to look for a job.
Then he got a job...keeping people from hanging out in front of the drug store.
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1-5, because I'm not one of those dummies that has 40 resource-intensive sites open then complains about everything being a memory hog.
LOL. A browser with many tabs open is like a room with lots of stacks of paper in it: it shows that the person who is living there is unorganized and busy with too many things at once. One can only hope that one of those things will get finished in the future.
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Or maybe, they are doing something that is quite research intensive? When doing research, I can easily open four browser windows, each with tens of tabs.
I do a search, open every article or site that seems like it might be relevant, and then while that's happening, I can continue reading and referencing other (already opened) articles.
At the moment I just finished writing a paper. So now I've only got 22 or so tabs open. One is my web email (Evolution is currently broken *sad face*), two are /., I've got a
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See? Just my point, you're trying to do too many things at once. You can not read a paper, research something else and read four short stories all at once. Focusing on one thing at a time and not getting distracted by other things makes you do your work faster and better.
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My Internet is quite shitty, I can easily read a short story, and occasionally pop over to my other browser and check to see if I need to reload a tab (because it didn't load properly), or click on a link (because of stupid library systems). These tasks don't require much thought. So, obviously my work process is probably quite different to yours, because of varying circumstances.
Moreover, even if I focus only on one paper (what I'm writing and researching for), I can easily have tens of tabs open. Because
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It occurs to me that a cool browser (or browser add-on) feature would be to know dynamically how much RAM each tab is using (displayed perhaps in the bottom status area of the tab you are looking at), with a summary of RAM-usage of-all-tabs tab that you could pin/change the tab size of for quick reference.
Some sites have annoying RAM usage habits. Others, like Wired, love to continuously re
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Or he uses the tab stacking feature in Opera to organize them.
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That would be a typical comment from an individual that can't handle chaos.
Multiple tabs is better suited for how the brain of most people work.
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The result of this poll proofs you wrong.
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hermes@mercurius wget http://slashdot.org/ [slashdot.org]
--2013-05-12 13:33:46-- http://slashdot.org/ [slashdot.org]
Resolving slashdot.org (slashdot.org)... 216.34.181.45
Connecting to slashdot.org (slashdot.org)|216.34.181.45|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 115624 (113K) [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html’
100% ===========> 115,624 277KB/s in 0.4s
2013-05-12 13:33:48 (277 KB/s) - ‘index.html’ saved [115624/115624]