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Early Look At ASUS Eee PC 901 With Intel Atom CPU

Posted by Soulskill on Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:06 PM
from the chip-off-the-old-block dept.
Might E. Mouse writes "Reviews are hitting the net for the first Intel Atom-powered netbooks, and TrustedReviews has posted one for the ASUS Eee PC 901 20G Linux Edition. Has ASUS won the Atom(ic) war before it even started? With features like Wireless-N and a 6600mAh battery good for four to seven hours, that might well be the case. TR rated it highly, but I'm going to wait for their MSI Wind review before making a purchase — their first look at the Wind showed a better keyboard and larger storage." An anonymous reader notes that despite the increased capabilities, the 901 debuts at a lower cost than its predecessor.
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  • by Bananatree3 (872975) on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:15PM (#23800825)
    with MSI, eeePC, XO v2.0 and a host of other micronotebooks, I'm going to wait another year for it all to solidify. There's a lot of speculation right now, and I'd like to see a market tested, proven platform I can compare to all the others before I buy.
    • by melonman (608440) on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:26PM (#23800931) Journal
      I can understand that, but, if you followed that logic consistently, you'd never buy a computer at all. I bought a 701, which I liked apart from the screen. Then I bought a Windows 900, on which I've installed Kubuntu, and I'm quite happy with it. It's a bit irritating that the next model is out already, but I'll be using mine on a series of train trips next week. If I had done things your way, I'd be reading magazine reviews instead of doing any work...
  • by speedtux (1307149) on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:19PM (#23800867)
    If it had been up to Microsoft and Sony, we'd still be stuck with overpriced $2000 executive toys running Microsoft Vista like molasses.

    FOSS has made it possible to create these machines and circumvent Microsoft's near monopoly, because if any of these companies had asked Microsoft to keep XP going for ultralights, Microsoft would have told them to go f*ck themselves. FOSS has also made it possible for these companies to design and sell $400 machines.

    And the motivation for it all has not been that people begrudge Bill Gates his collection of 19th century gold plated toilet plungers, but the fact that people want choices and free markets in software and hardware. All Microsoft has to offer is a gigantic marketing budget and Stalinist central planning.
    • by HangingChad (677530) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:09PM (#23801257) Homepage

      FOSS has made it possible to create these machines and circumvent Microsoft's near monopoly...

      I'm not sure FOSS made their existence possible, but it certainly made this price differential possible:

      The Wind appears to be solidly constructed out of hard plastic--unlike some early mini-laptops, which feel about as sturdy as a Styrofoam mini-cooler. At 10 by 7 by 0.8 inches, the Wind resembles some pricier portables--enough so that the list price of $399 (or $499 for the Windows XP version) seems like a bargain. Wait a week and we'll be able to tell you whether it's worth the money.

      Computerworld [computerworld.com]

      The mini-notebook phenom has most definitely highlighted the Windows tax on computer hardware. And it's nice to see examples of having that price differential clearly illustrated. And that's the way it should be. If you feel having Windows adds $100 of value to your notebook, by all means go right ahead and fork over the $$$.

    • by cmacb (547347) on Sunday June 15 2008, @02:34PM (#23801997) Homepage Journal

      And the motivation for it all has not been that people begrudge Bill Gates his collection of 19th century gold plated toilet plungers, but the fact that people want choices and free markets in software and hardware.
      I find it disgusting that people continue to pick on Bill Gates and his enormous wealth. Don't forget that he not only *invented* the PC, but also wrote most of the software that runs on it.

      Furthermore, he is devoted full-time now to charitable works, such as providing 19th century gold plated toilet plungers for Africa!
      • by erikina (1112587) <eri.kina@gmail.com> on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:33PM (#23801413) Homepage
        It gets tiring seeing the same arguments over and over, so I'm not going to rehash the arguments in Intel's favor.

        On a side note, no matter how you look at it - your hero Negroponte sold out. It's amusing how on their website one of the "5 core principles" is open source software. And to much acclaim, they publicly refused to use Mac OS (which was offered for free) and then turn around and license XP. (Oh yeah, and disagreements with Negroponte is the reason Intel walked away)
      • by couchslug (175151) on Sunday June 15 2008, @02:26PM (#23801899)
        "Drop that, and you lose binary compatibility (a small loss for this application)"

        Sell THAT idea to people who want the convenience of running the same binaries on all their machines.
        What do you think makes small x86 computers so popular?
  • Outdated chipset (Score:5, Insightful)

    by niko9 (315647) on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:20PM (#23800875)
    It worries me that the chipset consumes more power than the CPU itself. Since my
    Thnkpad X40 sub note book is working just fine, I guess I'll hold off until the next revision of the Atom
    platform is released and then reevaluate.
    • Re:Outdated chipset (Score:5, Interesting)

      by aliens (90441) on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:35PM (#23801015) Homepage Journal
      What difference does the power drain of the chipset make if it still gives you 7 hours battery time?

      Sure, a lower wattage chipset would give you more, but what exactly is there to worry about?
      • by mkcmkc (197982) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:04PM (#23801223)

        What difference does the power drain of the chipset make if it still gives you 7 hours battery time?
        You might as well ask why we invaded Iraq if Osama bin Laden is in Afghanistan. You liberal types just don't know when to shut up...
      • by niko9 (315647) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:56PM (#23801593)

        What difference does the power drain of the chipset make if it still gives you 7 hours battery time?

        Sure, a lower wattage chipset would give you more, but what exactly is there to worry about?

        What difference does the power drain of the chipset make if it still gives you 7 hours battery time?

        Sure, a lower wattage chipset would give you more, but what exactly is there to worry about?
        The difference is if Intel had mated the Atom CPU with a more apropos low power chipset you would be paying
        same amount of your hard earned money for an ultra portable that had maybe 14 hours or more of battery life.

        Imagine that. A sub note with close to 20 hours battery life, much like the Tandy 100.

        As of now, the Intel Atom is mated to a 3-4(?) year old 945 chipset. Sounds like something was missed here.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:23PM (#23800913)
    That is for Asus to sell the Eee without an OS so we can avoid the Microsoft tax. [xandros.com]

  • by Kjella (173770) on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:49PM (#23801099) Homepage

    Combined with the lean and mean Linux OS, performance is snappy and responsive. With 1GB of RAM in support you can even have two or three programs open at any one time and not encounter any major problems unless you want to watch video,
    With one gig of RAM, you can even run two or three programs at once... Not that I long back to everything, seriously WTF it's what I ran on my desktop a few years ago and I had a lot more than that running. Looking at my memory stats 4GB is overkill and 2GB would do, and I got... 20 applications open including a virtualbox version of XP which itself runs 4 apps.
  • by 1 a bee (817783) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:15PM (#23801305)

    The rate at which hardware prices are dropping is simply breathtaking. Consider it from the seller's angle: a $500 drop in price from say $1500 represents a 33% drop in revenue; a $500 drop in price from $1000, on the other hand, represents a 50% drop in revenue. This wreaks havoc on a lot of business models--and of course, creates a lot of new ones.

    Looking at this price trend, it seems like every home will soon be littered with a lot of portables--some fairly new, others, say, one or two years old. There might be one on every coffee table, you might throw one in the bathroom, as well as the one in the bedroom, and so on. Managing and maintaining the software on all these devices will be a chore.

    In an article [faunos.com] I co-wrote for the FaunOS project project, we argue that making the boot device detachable and largely hardware agnostic is an attractive solution. The idea is that users carry and maintain only a single copy of an operating environment which they can run on pretty much any device of their choosing. That way, the user accumulates and maintains know-how on a single evolving operating environment rather than having to duplicate that effort across multiple machines. Does this makes sense?

  • Wifi-N? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by chill (34294) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:18PM (#23801315) Homepage Journal
    Maybe I missed a memo, but so far all I've found for WiFi-N support on Linux is "legacy mode" where it falls back to B/G. Is there real, MIMO and bonded WiFi-N under Linux for either the Intel or Atheros chipsets?
  • by zaivala (887815) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:32PM (#23801405) Homepage
    What bothers me is that ASUS is no longer committed to Linux, and the 901 is the last Eee that will feature Linux as the preferred OS. I'm waiting for other companies to bring out an Atom, and also waiting for Ubuntu to finish their notepad version of 8.04 to run on one of these... which should be very soon.
    • by symbolset (646467) * on Sunday June 15 2008, @12:32PM (#23800977) Journal

      This works for me. If nothing better comes out in the next few weeks this or the MSI Wind is going back to school with my kids in the Fall.

      It's small, cheap, light enough. It'll serve them all day. I don't have to freak out if they lose it or break it. It's got enough CPU power and memory to do real work.

      I'll take one for me too. I'm tired of lugging around a full sized notebook when this is all I need. For real power and storage I can always remote to a real desktop under Citrix. For light spreadsheets and barcode scanning this will do the trick.

      • by CastrTroy (595695) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:39PM (#23801463) Homepage
        How much money do you have, and how spoiled are your kids? From the first link I saw [gizmodo.com], the MSI Wind is supposed to be priced between $458 to $1072 depending on options. Even at $458, that's quite an expensive device. Not expensive for a portable computer, but expensive none the less. If my kid lost or broke a $500 thing, I would be quite annoyed, and I would not be playing to replace it. Especially considering that a portable computer is nowhere near necessary for kids to have.
        • by symbolset (646467) on Sunday June 15 2008, @01:53PM (#23801565) Journal

          how spoiled are your kids?

          Pretty close to ruined, I'd say. They get their first real PC at 2, by 13 they're expected to build their own. Cable broadband. This is pretty standard for our larger family - we're all in IT.

          An Xbox with a couple games and controllers runs more than this and there's no way I'd buy them that.

          I didn't say I'd be happy about it if their mini notebook was lost or trashed, but it wouldn't be a disaster. The first one that gets broken will just be another toy for me to play with the leftover bits. Motherboard? That looks like it would fit in an RC plane...

          • by symbolset (646467) on Sunday June 15 2008, @02:04PM (#23801681) Journal

            Impressive specifications there. Y'know, I never knew anybody that thought he needed that much computer that also knew what to do with it when he got it.

              • by symbolset (646467) on Monday June 16 2008, @05:05AM (#23807605) Journal

                except the part where these operations have to happen on your mini laptop. Have you not heard of Citrix? Remote Desktop? Cellular modems? It's possible to have all of this happening on your mainframe, the attached supercomputer cluster, and a few thousand desktops and access them all from the laptop referenced in the fine article via VPN tunnel over wireless modem, public wi-fi, hotel room Internet, or any other mode you choose. I actually do this all day.

                I know of no reason why I'd need to debug an Oracle database, edit a photo for press, or update my CAD drawing while I was mid-stream fishing, nor while I was boarding a plane. For some things you just have to wade to shore, wait until the flight is airborne, pull up your pants. This laptop will not play consumer games nor will it run Vista well. If you want one that can join your AD domain you have to get the Linux one -- the XP home or Vista Basic one isn't up for that. For everything else, this laptop is fine.

                There is no laptop that will impress your gamer friends. The minimum bar to clear there starts at a kilowatt. They're disgusting.

                One more time... these things cost five hundred clams. They do all the stuff laptops do, including run business productivity apps. They're cute and they fit on the plane well. They last all day on one charge. They play media. They have USB ports . They have wireless. They support all of the remote desktop technologies you've ever heard of. They come with software that's truly free, and you can install as much more as you want for free via the Applications menu. They play video and audio. Your choice of operating systems are available. Some of them have firewire. FSM preserve us what the heck do you want from a mini laptop for a measly five Benjamins? Sex?

          • by PopeRatzo (965947) * on Sunday June 15 2008, @04:40PM (#23803147) Homepage Journal

            Until then, the closest thing I'll have to a laptop is a 40lb ATX cube with an LCD panel velcroed to the side.
            So what you're saying is that you don't need a portable computer. That's fine. Now exactly what does that have to do with our discussion of portable machines?

            The closest thing I'll have to a laptop is a PDP11 with a card reader velcroed to the side. Does that make my dick bigger than yours?