First Reviews of the MSI Wind Ultra-Portable Laptop 148
Ken E. writes "UK tech website Mobile Computer has an early hands-on review of the MSI Wind — a £329 ultraportable notebook that will compete head-on with the Asus Eee PC 900. In its favour are a 10in screen, better keyboard and, perhaps most important of all, an Intel Atom 1.6GHz dual-core processor (though the site shies away from mentioning this open secret due to what sound like NDA constraints). They like it a lot — is this finally a worthy Eee PC alternative?" (£329 is about $650US at the moment.) An anonymous reader points to CNET's hands-on photo gallery of the Wind; CNET's reviewer says the MSI Wind is the first mini notebook with an overclock button. Barence adds another review at PC Pro.
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I read it and thought (Score:3, Funny)
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Or taking it one step further ... (Score:2, Funny)
Reading in dollars? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Linux version: $560
WinXP version: $604
and the UK prices as:
Linux version: £320 (~630 USD)
WinXP version: £350 (~690 USD)
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Also, I believe that "new kit is always significantly more expensive than the USD/GBP exchange rate would imply." Last time I checked, the exchange rate wasn't capable of rational thought (ha!), and thus can't infer.
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There is no "minimum sales tax" in the US. We have shipping and handling here (a negotiable fee that can be 0%) and state sales tax that doesn't apply to out of state buyers.
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Between the one mouse button, lack of pgup/pgdn keys, and numerous hardware problems, my macbook pro is really pissing me off. I wish everyone would stop manufacturing crap.
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Doesn't work on older macbooks, but there's a driver floating around that will give you the feature.
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A pencil? May I suggest something to help [enzyte.com] grow that pencil to something more substantial...
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A pencil? May I suggest something to help [enzyte.com] grow that pencil to something more substantial...
It's possible to do much better. (Score:2)
I don't. And to add insult to injury mine's the 17" so there's plenty of room for a full sized keyboard.
This keyboard has what's close to the layout I'd like on a laptop:
http://www.adesso.com/images/big/bigger/MCK-91.jpg [adesso.com]
The older model I have at home, no longer available, has no "Fn" key or fake numeric keypad... which is another think I'd like to see laptop manufacturers give up on. Either way, this keyboard is about the same size as a regular laptop ke
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1^2=1; (-1)^2=1; 1^2=(-1)^2; sqrt(1^2) = sqrt((-1)^2); {1,-1} = {1,- 1}
there fixed that for you
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Smile for the pictures and please exit the podium to your left.
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Evidently I was using the 'multi-valued square root relation', not the single-valued 'principal square root function'.
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Weird scaling (Score:5, Interesting)
I find it interesting that this laptop more or less falls right in between your standard fare laptop and an Eee PC in terms of portability and raw power, but is the most expensive of the crop.
Using the base Vostro 1500 for the "average laptop" and the Eee PC 8G we have:
I realize the comparison is odd since they all hit different intended markets, but it seems that something that is between the two in specs would be closer to either of the two in terms of price than it currently is.
Re:Weird scaling -- Not. (Score:5, Insightful)
I find it interesting that this laptop more or less falls right in between your standard fare laptop and an Eee PC in terms of portability and raw power, but is the most expensive of the crop.
Using the base Vostro 1500 for the "average laptop" and the Eee PC 8G we have:
I realize the comparison is odd since they all hit different intended markets, but it seems that something that is between the two in specs would be closer to either of the two in terms of price than it currently is.
Compared to the EEE, you are paying for the larger 10" screen & faster processor.
All in all, it makes perfect sense to me the price placement from your list.
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Here [dell.com] is a link for you. If you hit the "Look Closer" link on that page, you can get a java-based 360 viewer. The Vostro actually has the same style aesthetic as the Wind. Just a bit bigger. Although it is a tad hefty at a starting weight of 6.33 lbs.
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Your Eee PC specs are off for the Eee 8G: 900mhz celeron and it is $499. The Eee 900 is 900mhz, 8.9" screen, 4GB + 16GB (or 8GB if you go with winxp) at $549.
The Wind is a little overpriced but is slightly different... hard drive vs ssd, slightly larger display (in dimensions, not pixels) and slightly larger keyboard. I can see some people paying the premium to have the large hard disk instead of the small ssd. The keyboard on the eee also takes a while to get used to and is very hard to touch-type on be
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http://blog.laptopmag.com/msi-wind-revealed-10-inch-mini-notebook-to-hit-us-in-june [laptopmag.com]
The Linux version, running Novel's SUSE, will have 512MB RAM and an 80GB hard drive. It will retail for $399. The Windows XP version will have 1GB RAM, an 80GB hard drive, and Bluetooth, retailing for $549. However according to MSI a base configuration of the Windows XP product will be available for under $500.
Awesome battery life, assuming it meets up to spec (Score:2)
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It supports two hardware threads on some configurations (not the lowest power versions), in the same way the P4 did.
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Not to mention it's a dual core processor [...]
The Wind has the single-core Atom variant.
I'm expecting to see a dual-core version by Christmas. With that much power, these machines start reaching feasibility as the only machine a typical person needs.
Why would I? (Score:1)
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Back in my day... (Score:4, Funny)
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The "turbo" button on my 286 functioned something like a "crash now" button would.
You should sue Bill G. Sounds like prior art on the Win95 'Start' button.
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$400 in the US (Score:3, Informative)
I don't know... (Score:4, Funny)
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dfgsdgf (Score:1)
Misread the title ... (Score:1)
Still quite fat for small laptops (Score:2)
The 9" versions are a little more desirable. I wish they'd make them slimmer.
Benchmarks? (Score:5, Insightful)
FTA:
How can you claim performance is good without running quantitative benchmarks?
I am interested in the performance of the new Atom processor because it uses a new chip design that prioritizes cost (to manufacture) and power efficiency, but not necessarily performance.
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First reviews of the MSI Wind Powered Laptop
Antique analog VGA (Score:2, Insightful)
And while I'm at it, I'd be interested to hear other people's perception of the oversized backspace key (yeah, I know, this is at the bottom of the
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As for the enter/backspace key, I hate those huge L-shaped enter keys and a regular-sized backspace key is a problem. In fact, on my Apple keyboard right here, the delete key is just a tad shorter than the return key.
If you rarely use backspace, more power to you. But for the rest of us, a regular-sized backspace key would be too much trouble. In fact, I'd even say that if you can't hit a non-L-shaped enter key, you're the one with a problem.
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DVI is slightly bigger than VGA, but it can include VGA signals as well.
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And while I'm at it, I'd be interested to hear other people's perception of the oversized backspace key (yeah, I know, this is at the bottom of the list of considerations for purchasing a new laptop, but I've got lots of free time to kill today). I've always preferred keyboards with a large "L-shaped" Enter key, and a standard size backspace key (so that the \| key is right at the top row, between the =+ key and the backspace). I've never really understood why some people like to shrink the size of a heavily used key (Enter) to make room for a key that is rarely used (backspace).
Personally, I consider what they have on that laptop the "standard" layout. Microsoft uses it, Logitech uses it, my HP laptop uses it, and whatever cheapo OEM made this Dell keyboard that I'm typing on now uses it.
:).
I'm surpised that there are actually people that prefer their keyboard any other way
Personally, I tend to mentally seperate my keys by rows. A key should never span more than one row, so the "L" shaped Enter key is an immediate abomination. The standard size shown on this laptop keeps it
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Intel Atom stuff (Score:1)
They didn't want to say what's the unit price, but it probably won't be in low single dollars like with some ARM variants (STM/LPC)
1024x600? no thank you (Score:1)
However, Before I plunk down my cash I want at least a 1280x768 resolution screen.
1024x600 is smaller than the old beater I'm using now.
earth, wind, air, and fire (Score:2)
Who's up for earth? Dell for some reason comes to mind. Something to do with dirt I think.
And who better for a laptop Fire than Sony?
Via Nanobook reference design (Score:2)
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This MSI laptop is only slightly smaller and has less use (no dvdrw than their already small subnotebooks.
I'm thinking it's a marketing gimmick only.
And that $ change is mostly due to the $ tanking (Score:1, Informative)
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MSI is certainly not a top brand but they're not complete junk either, in my experience.
=Smidge=
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Motherboards: Gigabyte (2 boards + 1 R
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My father-in-law swears by Asus. He also buys a new board every other year, for each of his systems. He gives me the old, dead ones, which I confirm as dead then store away for 6 months, try again and they wo
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That's not quite accurate. The company that bought/took the formula was a company that manufactured electrolyte, not a capacitor company. That flawed electrolyte was sold to about a dozen capacitor manufacturers in Taiwan and Japan, who in turn sold the capacitors to probably thousands of companies. It affected products by almost every major computer vendor, including every manufacturer you mentioned in your post.
IBM
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2003/06/22/ibms-capacitors-are-dodgy-too-b [theinquirer.net]
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Hell I remember on my first computer (a Packard Bell) it took my close to a year to convince my mother that it wasn't hurting the computer to always keep it in Turbo mode. She had wanted me to run it in normal except when I "needed it to go faster".
When I started
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Although the Atom does include HyperThreading to compensate for its lack of out of order execution, thus explaining