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Former OLPC CTO Aims to Create $75 Laptop

Posted by timothy on Thu Jan 10, 2008 03:03 PM
from the go-go-mary-lou dept.
theodp writes "Mary Lou Jepsen, who left her One Laptop Per Child CTO gig on Dec. 31st, has reemerged with her sights set on a $75 laptop that will be designed by her new company, Pixel Qi, which is described as a 'spin-out' from OLPC. In a Groklaw interview, Jepsen calls for 'a $50-75 laptop in the next 2-3 years' and says it's time to go Crazy-Eddie on touchscreen prices as well." This is probably good news to Bruce Perens, who thinks that the recent report of Microsoft's dual-boot XO project (with Windows as well as the Linux-based Sugar OS) is a feint driven by Microsoft's fear of "the entire third world learning Linux as children." Update: 01/10 21:22 GMT by T : ChelleChelle adds a link to an excellent interview with Jepsen in the ACM Queue, in which she discusses OLPC and some of the technologies it contains.
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  • by Jeremiah Cornelius (137) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:05PM (#21988080) Homepage Journal
    Love the smell of Vapor in the morning.

    That's "vapour", for my fellow POHMs.
    • Love the smell of Vapor in the morning.
      Ok, well, I guess to be fair, we should give her a little more credit than that. Mary Lou Jepson [wikipedia.org] does have a PhD in opitcs and a BS in EE. She seems to be quite competent and is credited with some key design and inventions for the OLPC and also working politics with companies to design these displays specifically for the laptop, defined by the laptop. Not an easy thing to do.

      So I'm guessing she was upset from the cost and believes that she can cut cost by doing again what she did for the OLPC, designing a better, cheaper display. This time, she can probably negotiate better deals as I'm sure the # of XOs in development causes display manufacturers to salivate.

      So, before you accuse this of being vaporware, I would caution you that she has held up her end once for the OLPC ... and she seems to be highly motivated. She's got street cred.

      Now, what makes me salivate is the site's promise to keep everything open. The software's a given at this point but open hardware would be revolutionary and present yet another learning possibility for users.
  • by mcmonkey (96054) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:08PM (#21988122) Homepage
    We already have the $10 laptop [wikipedia.org]
  • by quanticle (843097) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:11PM (#21988184) Homepage

    When I was young, all the computers at school ran MacOS. My entire introduction to computing was done on Apple IIs and Macintoshes. However, when it came time to buy a computer for home, our family bought a Windows machine because it had better specs. Starting these kids out on Linux doesn't necessarily mean that they'll stay with Linux.

  • How about a DS? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sootman (158191) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:39PM (#21988662) Journal
    I think this guy [dreamhost.com] has a lot of good points. (Just skip halfway down past the ranty bits. :-) )

    The Nintendo DS...
    • It's cheap. ($129... and I'm sure if you order 150 million Nintendo will cut you a deal.)
    • It's power-efficient. (Easily lasts 14 hours on a single charge, even with the screen bright enough to be seen in direct sunlight.. there's even a hand-crank charger!)
    • It's a computer. (All advantages to be gained by giving a young child a laptop are also gained by giving a child a DS. Just by using a DS they'll become confident and "fluent" in the use of technology, and future "real" computer use will come much much easier. Worked for me!)
    • It's got wi-fi. (In fact, it even does ad-hoc networking, and allows downloading content from one host DS to all the others.. just the teacher could have the lesson plan on their DS and wirelessly beam it to all the students at the start of each class!)
    • It's rugged. (Nintendo's been making toys for actual children for over 100 years and Game Boys have survived actual wars.)
    • It's powerful enough. (If it can handle Mario Kart tournaments, it can handle Multipli Kation tables.)
    • It's small and has a touch screen. (Like the iPhone. Just like laptops have replaced the desktop, in the future ever smaller portable electronics will replace the laptop. Why teach on antiquated technology?)
    • It's forward-compatible. (Nintendo's portable systems have very long life cycles. Any software you write for the DS will very likely still be runable on the hardware they're selling in a decade.)
    • Children love it. (You want a teaching tool that's "fun to use?" You want a teaching tool that's "collaborative" You've hit "the jackpot.")
    • It's a world-wide standard. (Over 53 MILLION have been sold already. The platform has thousands of developers. The future leaders of the developed world are growing up playing Nintendo DS.. why give the future leaders of the developing world anything less?)
    • It's already used for education. (Millions use their DS to learn a language, develop logic skills, practice cooking, learn math, read books, research, and browse the web every day!)
    • Re:How about a DS? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by gad_zuki! (70830) on Thursday January 10 2008, @04:34PM (#21989660)
      It doesnt have a keyboard and the screen is way, way too small to be used for anything serious like schoolwork. Just because theyre third-world doesnt mean they deserve junk like this. Their ergonomics should be important to us. Its a real shame it isnt.
    • Re:How about a DS? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Kuukai (865890) on Thursday January 10 2008, @04:45PM (#21989872) Journal
      Well, this has many of the same problems the Classmate does, according to TFA. It isn't waterproof, it's not very durable despite your assertions (if you don't know someone with a broken one, you need to get out more), and the battery life/expense/environmental-effect isn't very good. Like the sibling posts mentioned, it also requires licenses to develop for, and it has no keyboard, making input tedious. In addition, there are some general factual errors with your post. Hanafuda isn't "for children," so I wouldn't say Nintendo has been in the toy business for a 100 years. Also I don't know of any software to "learn cooking" on the DS any better than you can "learn guitar" on the PS2... Cooking Mama gives you a "general idea," but you're not going to succeed without a real recipe. The kind you can look up on Google. With an XO.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:35PM (#21988574)
      Q: I understood that you have one or more patents in screen technology which are in the XO laptop. Are you taking those patents with you for licensing, or do they belong to OLPC? Can you clarify the patent situation for us?

      Mary Lou Jepsen: When we eventually filed papers to make the OLPC 501c6 real, we also then started hiring (in early 2006). I then assigned the inventions that I had both already made and would make to OLPC. Pixel Qi -- my new company -- is now licensing my inventions from OLPC. This isn't an OLPC employee benefit, it's a deal I created with OLPC and Pixel Qi, and the benefit will go to OLPC and to the children of the world, lowering the price of the laptops, and thus allowing more kids to get laptops.
    • by glop (181086) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:35PM (#21988588)
      You might want to read the Groklaw interview. It is said there that her new company is licensing the tech she developed for OLPC from OLPC.

      As you see, your post is plain wrong and very unfair to Ms. Jepsen. Too bad it was modded +3...
    • by Hatta (162192) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:36PM (#21988610) Journal
      That just shows you how overpriced graphing calculators are. Don't you think the prices should have dropped a bit more in the past 10 years? I guess when every HS student across the country has to buy one for their college prep classes there's not much incentive to compete on price.
          • by Beardo the Bearded (321478) on Thursday January 10 2008, @07:25PM (#21992488)
            I'm an Engineer.

            I was not allowed to use a programmable or graphing calculator on any exams. I used a Sharp EL-546 for my scholastic career. It was about $25. For that, I got matrix solutions, simpson's rule, algebraic substitution, polar and rectangular vector calculations, stats, function recall (so you can go back) and a bunch of other goodies.

            At work, I do not use a "graphing" calculator. I use that old sharp (or calc.exe) for the few minor calculations that I have to do. For anything else, I use the simulation programs on the computer.

            Really, who uses a calculator for anything important? You get the right tool for the job. As far as I'm concerned, using a graphing calculator instead of a sim (or RW tests) is the same as using a wristwatch.
    • by xzvf (924443) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:38PM (#21988642)
      As an educational tool, it doesn't have to be that complicated. Look at the laptop type devices being put out by Leapfrog, V-tech and Fisher Price. All in the $50 range. Adding a larger screen and internet access, might be possible for $75. It depends on what you want it to do and the profit margin expected. My Atari 2600 put some darn good games in 4K. The XO laptop is close to duplicating a full featured laptop for only $200. It is a resounding success. If for profit companies can build on that with a number of educational appliances that cost $75 and down, even better. If OLPC and the XO have a problem it isn't the hardware, it's software designed to allow kids to learn themselves and an inability to market that idea. Like schools in the US, the administration wants control, and they often resent kids learning on their own.
    • by symbolset (646467) on Thursday January 10 2008, @03:44PM (#21988736) Journal

      OLPC is good enough to access content like MIT Open Courseware. Expanding access to content like that from what was previously available to these kids is just amazing.

      There are a lot of brilliant people in the world who, for lack of access to good education cannot realise their potential. I would prefer that your lack of imagination not prevent them. We are going to need them.

      I would also prefer that the next billion people to come online in the digital age not be burning 300 watts each to support Microsoft bloatware. That's a lot of carbon for no real benefit.

      • by unlametheweak (1102159) on Thursday January 10 2008, @04:14PM (#21989300)
        Fact is giving cheap computers to "poor" nations does not make them any happier, healthier, richer, or more educated. It just means that they have cheap computers. It may change the social dynamics around a bit, like reading a book at home on a computer instead of at the local school or library. It may even mean that somebody may get to work for IBM as a programmer through one of their off-shoring initiatives.

        At any rate, since computers started to become superfluous in the West I have NOT noticed that people became more educated, happy, employed, etc (I'm sure those ppl still making big $$$ in the IT field would disagree). Yep, a shift in jobs for some people, and easier to do some second-hand research; but overall (unless you are a Gamer) I wouldn't say it has had a dramatic effect (for the better) on people's lives.

        Don't get me wrong, I am certainly in favour of cheap computers, especially for poor people, but people should realize WHY they want this, and the reality of their ideals.
        • At any rate, since computers started to become superfluous in the West I have NOT noticed that people became more educated, happy, employed, etc (I'm sure those ppl still making big $$$ in the IT field would disagree). Yep, a shift in jobs for some people, and easier to do some second-hand research; but overall (unless you are a Gamer) I wouldn't say it has had a dramatic effect (for the better) on people's lives.
          I'm not sure whether there's been much of a real "happiness" benefit (although I have no idea how you'd really quantify happiness -- "how happy are you, on a scale of 1 to 10"?), but computers have contributed real productivity gains to the U.S. economy, which in general have helped to expand purchasing power. Plus there are a lot of fringe benefits. (Probably far exceeding the real productivity gains, which are difficult to measure and engender lots of argument based on the methodology.)

          Joe Worker may not care much about 'computers' either way, but he can now make long distance phone calls for a fraction of what they cost a few decades ago. I suspect within a generation, the idea of "long distance" phone calls being different from "local" ones will probably be lost on the young, if it hasn't been already. And there are cellphones, which except for very rural areas I don't think you can say haven't had an impact.

          And even beyond that, there's all the goods that you can buy down at your local MegaMart or even grocery store. One of the only reasons you can buy so much cheap stuff from halfway around the globe is because of logistics and supply chains that have been honed to razor-thin margins by computer models, managed using computers, and operated over information networks. Huge amounts of global trade are only feasible because of computerization. And that doesn't even get into the personal-communication and leisure activities that are only possible because of them.

          Of course, some people will always argue that technology and development haven't done anything to promote "happiness," and perhaps we'd all be better off if we'd never developed agriculture in the first place. But to me, that represents a lot of second-guessing (from the very cushy armchair of modern civilization) of decisions made by our long-dead ancestors, who have felt at every step of the way that new technologies were a benefit and chose to implement them.

          So: will giving computers to poor nations necessarily make them happier? I've no idea. I also don't know if it necessarily will make them richer or more educated -- that really has more to do with how the computers are used, than the computers themselves. But without computers they're going to be kept out of a vast amount of the economy, and that will almost certainly assure that they're poor. They aren't a guarantee of anything, but they seem quite absolutely necessary as a starting condition to have much of a shot at all.
        • by pinkocommie (696223) on Friday January 11 2008, @01:39AM (#21995646)
          like reading a book at home on a computer instead of at the local school or library
          Heh I grew up in Pakistan, not exactly the most impoverished of nations and the largest city has one large scale public library (there are local ones in high-end areas that cater to local neighborhood residents).
          In order to read say a 3 investigators novel in middle/elemntary school I had to fork over 10 cents / day to a local private library. The household income at this point was in the range of 200 dollars (6k rupees) a month on which a family of 7 lived. And we were considered middle class. In comparison buying a new (pirated) book was around a dollar with a 'genuine' copy being around 6 dollars.
          As you may guess even renting books from the local library was not exactly affordable in great quantities.
          Far more relevant though, is back in the day my school had computer programming classes (BASIC) which I was virtually flunking, the whole thing seemed completely alien to me. A generous uncle bought us our first computer and my grades went from 50/100 to 99/100 and stayed in that range. I'm now earning well above the middle class in the US as a software engineer. For every person like me that actually got access to a computer and was able to leverage that there are probably hundreds if not thousands that were smarter then me and didn't. Imagine the potential lost, regardless of which field of study you think of.
          imnsho this is a brilliant idea provided the likes of small minded governments and Intel don't completely screw it over.
      • I was thinking along similar lines. But an 89 still costs over $100. How do they plan to make a computer for less than a calculator costs?
        Perhaps by not trying to charge $100 for something that was barely state-of-the-art ten years ago, and depending on their monopoly position in the market to ensure that people pony up?

        The TI calculators are a prime example of how a market can stagnate when there's no competition. Pretty much since HP abandoned the educational market (which struck me as a bad idea, given how the professional market is getting eaten up by computer software packages) TI has rested on its laurels. Sure, every once in a while they toss out an incremental upgrade -- a little more RAM or Flash here, a little better screen there -- but by and large they're not doing a damn thing with their lineup, and they haven't decreased the prices much at all.

        The TI-89 isn't bad -- it's probably the best handheld calculator out there, depending on how you feel about the HP-49 series -- but I can't help but wonder what we'd have if TI actually had some motivation to actually turn out a new model and cut prices every year or so, like the rest of the computer-hardware industry.
          • by ZorbaTHut (126196) on Friday January 11 2008, @01:23AM (#21995566) Homepage
            I've never had my DS, PSP, XBox 360, PS2, Wii, or Gamecube crash. Ever. And I've used each one of those systems more than I've ever used a graphing calculator . . . and curiously enough, I have had my TI-81 crash. Lost all its saved data too.

            Modern technology doesn't imply frequent crashing. Modern technology and complex code doesn't even imply frequent crashing. I have no doubt that you could build a cheap graphing calculator on a 400mhz XScale chip, with maybe 128mb of storage, with a full GUI and a hierarchical filesystem, just as stable as they used to be.

            Probably based on Linux.
    • Reading your (few and ancient) journal entries, apparently you have wondered in the past why you have been called a Troll.

      I don't get why Slashdot gives so much press to these people when they admit they can't maintain their own goals,

      "Citation needed", except you're probably merely talking about the OLPC target price of $100 versus the recent actual price of $188. Well, duh, "target price" is a hope for the future. Initial price being higher is not "admitting they can't maintain their own goals". Sheesh.

      the program is mired in political bullshit,

      "Citation needed", very definitely. "Mired" is unsupportable, and "political bullshit" is created by their enemies (clearly including Intel at this point), but you phrase it as if OLPC themselves did something wrong. I call bullshit.

      and the very idea of giving kids a laptop and acting as if it will cure all their ills is idealistic at absolute best.

      "Citation needed" once again. You make me tired. Talk about hyperbole. No OLPC person has ever said that the OLPC goals will "cure all their ills". That's bigtime bullshit, and you should be ashamed for the misrepresentation, you really should.

      OLPC is bust,

      "Citation needed" yet again! They are shipping. They're an ongoing concern. There is no strong evidence that they have actually "failed" (either short term or long term) in any sense at all.

      Netcraft confirms.

      I searched Netcraft and saw nothing about OLPC, but maybe I just wasn't thorough enough. Still, this smacks of merely more of your trolling.

      Before posting, I checked your slashdot journal and your website. Your research seems interesting, you seem superficially as if you might be an interesting person, but apparently once in a while you just get irrationally angry on some topic and, given what you yourself have said on the topics in question, do not understand that that's what you have done. Introspect more, then you will see why (once a year or so, since you post infrequently) people say you are a big time Troll.

      You're being so much of a troll here that it makes me wonder what you did 5 years ago to get +1 Karma. Maybe you should wonder, too, and then try to repeat your positive side, rather than your negative side!