OLPC CTO Quits to Commercialize OLPC Technology 168
theodp writes "The One Laptop Per Child project suffered a blow Monday, with CTO Mary Lou Jepsen quitting the nonprofit to start a for-profit company to commercialize technology she invented with OLPC (the first of Jepsen's pending OLPC patents was published by the USPTO on Dec. 13). The OLPC project halted consumer sales of the cheap laptop at the end of December."
G1G1 didn't end in November (Score:4, Informative)
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Her last day with the organization is Dec. 31, though she will continue consulting with OLPC, according to the e-mail. Dec. 31 is also the end of OLPC's Give One Get One program, in which two XO laptops can be purchased for about US$400, with a user getting one laptop and the other being donated.
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What's the matter with the OLPC - is our money smelly?
I DO want a sturdy, light laptop with long battery life. The Asus EEE comes close, but no cigar due to high energy requirements. I do not want flash or movies, I need web & decent text display, and the ability to stand sand and water in accidental amounts. I would even go G2G1!
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Sounds great. (Score:2)
Bought mine (and some child's) yesterday (Score:1)
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I don't. By OLPC's own admission, many have been getting DOA or flakey laptops, there is no support, and the cost of dealing with hardware problems on an ad-hoc basis could drive them under. I don't begrudge their program or technology, I'm just pointing out that G1G1 cannot ignore market realities -- and shouldn't participate in it unless they're prepared to jack up the price in order to afford it.
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Personally, I can see a lot of use for Tech in the OLPC project outside laptops. My understanding of the screen is that is doesn't wash out in sunlight so a variety of Fish finders,
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An example of this is Athena Partners who sells bottled watter as a non profit to raise funds for breast cancer. Baldev Farms which is one of largest Banana plantations on South India exists to raise funds for The George Foundation's Women's Empowerment program. IT is another prime example of this concept effective
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But a banana plantation in support of Women's Empowerment, hmmmmmmmmmmm
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So have you read the news that the patent in question is owned by the OLPC project? The report that she's stealing something seems to be pure calumny. If anything, she's working on developing the parallel retail marketing that so many people have been suggesting. And if successful, her company will be paying license royalties to the OLPC project.
Does anyone know differently? It'd be interes
Jepsen contributed her patents to OLPC (Score:5, Informative)
It Makes Sense (Score:4, Insightful)
My laptop only runs about 40 minutes at full bore (i.e., if I disable all of the power saving features). There is much work to be done in this area. I'd like to see a huge transition from HDD to solid state disks (i.e., 2.5" and 3.5" flash-like drives), as well as from CISC to RISC processors, especially for servers running on the x86 architecture. The former is probably more likely. HDD pales in comparison to SSD for reliability, performance, and power consumption. We already have small devices that run on flash memory; why can't we use similar technology for laptops in the future?
Re:It Makes Sense (Score:5, Insightful)
The specs are free, and the hardware is quite impressive (battery life and durability wise). Sell a laptop for $200 that can do internet access and you will likely sell-out to the Walmart crowd.
Re:It Makes Sense (Score:4, Interesting)
Frankly, I'm surprised someone hasn't commercialized the OLPC hardware/software combination yet.
Look at what intel and Microsoft have already tried to do to the OLPC. Do you think they'd stand back and let anyone else have a go?
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Also, Intel and Microsoft are making some good money on their laptops, which have a fairly high markup (almost as large as Apple's
It could be interesting to read about what pressures Intel and MS have been able to put on other vendors to block the sale of machi
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A person claiming responsibility for some of the XO's innovations has left the OLPC in order to be compensated for her inventions.
The main problem that I see: she has benefited from another purse while developing this technology, then kept the patents for her self to benefit on. It may be acceptable in a human-eat-human world, but it is far from charitable. Maybe it would have been better for her to move on and develop better technology, then patent and profit from that. For example, that XO display has a number of benefits over the competition but still has deficiencies. With her knowledge of the original, perhaps she could have
Re:It Makes Sense (Score:4, Insightful)
How? We have no idea what the agreement between her and OLPC was; and as another poster pointed out the patent is assigned to OPLC - not her. I would guess tehre has been some sort of licensing agreement reached between her and OLPC that both find reasonable and beneficial to avoid nasty lawsuits.
She, understandably, wants to make some money off of her ideas; while still benefiting OPLC (selling components at cost per TFA). Just becasue she was at a non-profit doesn't mean she shouldn't do what many have done before - leave to start their own company. often, non-profits can't or won't commercialize products; and employees leave to fill what they see as a market opportunity; having worked at a non-profit I've seen that happen first hand - in this case; after trying to convince the organization that they could create a for-profit sub and use the profits to fund other activities.
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Uh, what? Harddisk to solid state disk makes sense for a laptop but the cost/GB is too high, especially if you have racks and racks of servers. As for CISC vs. RISC, it's amazing that people still bring this up. For most modern processors (PowerPC, x86, etc), the CISC and RISC distinction doesn't make any sens
Re:It Makes Sense (Score:4, Interesting)
That's 1990s stuff. The whole CISC vs RISC thing has been completely obsoleted by modern chip designs, which render the distinction meaningless. RISC was a solution to a problem that no longer exists (and CISC was nothing more than the lack of a solution).
You can build CPUs fast or low power. For ia32 CPUs built fast, see Intel and AMD. For them built low-power, see Via. You can buy laptops with Via chips in them, and they have considerably more battery life. Don't whine when you find out that they won't run Oblivion, or Vista, because they aren't that fast.
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As long as the OLPC Foundation is never compelled to pay licensing fees to the new corporation for technology originally conceived for OLPC's benefit, I don't see a problem, either.
Even though I'm eagerly anticipating receiving the reward for my Give One, Get One donation, I know that it's not designed for users like me. If a commercial laptop
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Nope, just right: it let us know that you're a raving, foaming-at-the-mouth troll. You may have some basis for what you're saying, but have decided not to explain it further.
Thank you come again.
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So I suppose you wish her well in her new endeavor - Making money off "her" IP that OUR donations of time, money, and goodwill, subsidized the creation of?
Hey, deny it if you want, or put it more delicately if you fear some form of retribution, but she's shown her true colors; and I, for one, have no reservation about calling a spade, a spade. I have nothing against making money - I wouldn't mind doing so myself, someday.
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Countless open-source developers (a category in which I consider myself a member) have contributed their "time" (deliberately or not) to the OLPC project. Somehow I doubt many did so intending to give Jepsen a stepping stone to fame-n'-fortune (or in this case, notoriety and thirty pieces of silver).
As for why people consider my original post in this thread as flamebait, I can appreciate that I worded it a bit harshly, bu
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Is it just me? (Score:2)
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That said, they're great little machines. One of our engineers bought one and we've been playing with it for the last couple of weeks. It's small, light, waterproof, and is quite capable. As far as I can tell, from both the hardware and software standpoints, the OLPC is exactly what they promised that it would be (except it's a little more expensive...hopefully they'll be successful in bringing the price down).
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too rugged? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Technology aimed at kids needs to be rugged. Never underestimate the damage potential of a 8 year old hyped up on kool-aide.
They can drop it and they can accidently poor liquids on it.
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Hey, it's much larger than a BlackBerry's keyboard, and look at all the adults that seem to love those.
Actually, I have an OLPC sitting on my desk. My hands aren't tiny, and I can (just barely) do the standard touch typing. It was tricky at first, but I'm rapidly getting better at it.
Now if I could just figure out how the browser's bookmark
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Water resistant, not waterproof. I'm planning to use mine in the kitchen on occasion, and am happy not to have to worry about accidental splashes of liquid onto it, but I sure wouldn't try using it in the bathtub.
One Cell Phone Per Child is next ? (Score:3, Funny)
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And with that, you still need a quality microphone and headset. The plus side is you could wrap the contents into a box like shape that resembles a womens work boot and get that 80's retro look down pat. The good thing about it, unless
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Not Necessarily Bad (Score:2, Informative)
I am all for anything that brings us closer to a similar commercia
This will prove to be a HUGE mistake for Jepsen (Score:2)
If she thinks she can start collecting royalties on the OLPC and get rich, which is what I suspect is her intent, she'll find that it won't pay off nearly as well as she imagines and ultimately, she'll end up selling her patent rights to some company that so
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The articles reference an email she made that said
what she is saying is, you will always have yours but other who want it will pay more for it. Actually, this is somewhat common with charities. They hold business ventures that are co
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She is also moving most of the hardware R&D costs and risks to be supported by for profit company. Leaving the Non-profit organization to concentrate on it's true goal.
Improved Yields, better QA, all the sorts of things that will happen with a commercial product will mean that OLPC will end up getting a better product for the same price or less.
Win-Win Indeed
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Not true. I have an Asus Eee PC. It's a fantastically useful little laptop. Sure it's not as fast as modern laptops, but its plenty fast enough for web browsing, mail, skype, word processing, even movie playback. The important thing is that it's cheap, smal
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I can see it being very popular as an educational version (which I will ela
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He can say that as often as he likes, but the project is still named "One Laptop Per Child", not "Education For Every Child".
Whether by intent or side-effect, the OLPC project has resulted in some fantastic innovations in low-end portable computer design. And though the software aspects of the OLPC project are just as innovative, I think it's disingenuous
Love That Profit Motive (Score:1, Flamebait)
I don't know the details of the new technology and who deserves to be compensated for it. Frankly, I couldn't care less. What really, really makes me sad is that all of us...the "First World" countries...use so much and have so much, yet we're so goddamned cheap about spreading it around.
I'll freely admit that I'm pulling a number right out of my ass here, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the total cost of the Iraq invasion (including care for wounded veterans) outstripped the total expend
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However, it's darn hard to solve a poverty problem without money.
The real problems are complex and intertwined. That doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't be addressed. Of course, it's more points politically to serve up simple solutions, and in fact lots of aid is spent to prop up thoroughly corrupt regimes that happen to be useful to first world governments. Moreover, first world corporations benefit from corrupt regimes that can be trusted to deal with any unionization efforts with extreme prejudice
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No, they have opposite goals. Companies by default are concerned solely for their own benefit, and any deviation from that to benefit other people is remarkable charity. Governments by default are concerned for the benefit of their citizens, and any deviation to that to benefit private individuals is corruption.
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Your ass is correct. In 2006, the USA spent $23.5 billion [oecd.org] on official development assistance, and $100 billion [boston.com] on the war in Iraq. (Iraq is currently the largest recipient of American aid, and one could debate whether that portion of the aid budget should actually be counted as part of the cost of the war. Before the Iraq war, the largest recipient of aid was Israel.)
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There is no profit (Score:2)
You might make a living giving yourself away, but you wont make a real profit.
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Just sell the thing for $199 (Score:5, Insightful)
OK, they need to get the price down to $100. Instead of selling them in the US at $400 at a 100% profit margin to raise money for charity, they need to just sell the things for $199 commercially and take over the low end market. In a year or two, they'll be down to $99 through sheer volume.
Those things ought to be in bubble-packs at the local drugstore, alongside the cheap calculators, electronic dictionaries, and other low end electronics. This wouldn't stroke Negroponte's ego, but it would get the things out there in volume. Soon enough, they'd be available all over the world, purely on price.
Jepsen probably sees this. Negroponte wants to meet with heads of state and be in the press.
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They're doing pretty well on volume now. They have a brand-new factory, and last month they planned to ship 150,000, then 80,000-100,000 every month after (source [engadget.com]).
Where are they going? I just did
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$100 is in some ways a harder target now than when they originally set it. I don't recall exactly when they first talked of it costing $100, but the dollar has fallen in the last five years (e.g. 25% against the GBP [yahoo.com]),
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Damn skippy they need to do that. G1G1 is bullshit; you're not "giving" a 2nd machine, you're just donating $200 to OLPC's overheads. I don't get $200 of warm fuzzy from that. I'd happily pay $200 for an XO, I'd pay $250 if I had to, and I might (after a few beers) splurge $300 on one. But $400 for one device? Never going to happen.
I find it hard to credit OLPC's claims that they want volume sales when they could ship these things by the millions in Japan and Korea. The XO is ideal for those markets
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But apparently lots of people would. If you look at the actual price of things like an iPhone or BlackBerry, i.e. how much of your 2-year contract is for the PDA, you'll find that they are selling for well over $400, and selling quite well. And, as various others have pointed out, the OLPC really is just a slightly larger PDA with a handle. And it's
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Casio, HP, and TI are still charging $90 for the same models of graphing calculator that I used in high school Trigonometry class fifteen years ago.
I don't think they'd take very kindly to a $100 general-purpose computer being sold alongside their ancient artifacts.
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"At cost"? (Score:2)
Was she hired by OLPC? Yet she retains all the patents for her work?
The incremental cost for any patent licensing is effectively "0". (Note, I said "incremental" cost. Yes, there's development effort put into it, which may or m
the first of Jepsen's pending OLPC patents? (Score:5, Interesting)
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I simply choose to believe OLC team rather than article submitter who can't right even summary somehow objectively.
Someone from OLPC team wants to commerci
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No it won't. What it is doing is getting portable computers into new hand, and it is certainly creating a new market. That's cool, but it won't change desktop or laptops.
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We've been playing with a couple of them here at home for a week now, and I'd predict you're wrong. It has a number of things that could really shake up the market.
One thing is their mesh network. I remember some time back reading a bunch of the original design docs for the original ARPAnet back in the 1960s. There were diagrams of all sorts of military equipment talking to each other wirelessly, without any ce
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WTF (Score:1, Troll)
The end of G1G1 was discussed on olpc-open (Score:4, Interesting)
http://olpc.osuosl.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1414 [osuosl.org]
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-open/2007-December/thread.html#459 [laptop.org]
The general reason given for ending G1G1 was that it was a strain on the OLPC volunteers. See especially Nicole Lee's post http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-open/2007-December/000474.html [laptop.org]
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This makes a lot of sense. Negroponte and the others have been repeatedly emphasizing to their critics that they're not a computer vendor; they're an educational organization. Negroponte is a professor at MIT, not a corporate CEO. They haven't (to my knowledge) come right out and said it, but I expect that they're hoping for some startup companies that can take away the pressure to market this thing. This seems to be
Offer expired ad... (Score:2)
Price and volume (Score:3, Interesting)
It was always pretty obvious to me that, even if the XO itself does not bring a huge change, its technologies and its "less is enough" approach are bound to make a massive change to a very monotonous market.
Let's hope it's the next Apple II
Not to ruin a good witch hunt or anything, but... (Score:4, Informative)
Thanks for all the interest in my new company!
some comments:
1) My new company *is* trying to explore the concepts of open hardware - and trying to figure out the right way to do it. I've been asking many people for advice on this: Richard Stallman, Eben Moglen, Larry Lessig, John Gilmore, Brewster Kahle, etc. We are struggling through it. Hardware is different from software - but how can we open it up?
2) Doesn't anyone want a 50 Euro laptop? I do. I'm not talking about designing last years product for next year. Other people can do that..I plan to continue to innovate and invent.
3) Finally: I'm not taking my inventions from OLPC - I'm licensing them from OLPC. Why: An inventor has a good chance of improving the price/performance of her inventions. Why restrict her access to them if our goal is lower cost computing for the developing world?
Posted by: Mary Lou Jepsen on January 01, 2008
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You got that right. FTA: "I will continue to give OLPC product at cost, while providing commercial entities products they would like at a profit," Jepsen wrote in an e-mail.
She was responsible for designing the display, which, depending on who you ask, is either really novel and cutting edge, or a substandard compromise to modern display design. Personally, the display is not anything I would want for standard laptop-like use.
The OLPC has their low-power display, and now she can go off and make the technology available to other markets instead of keeping it exclusive to the OLPC. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
Dan East
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Don't be so quick to disparage it. While I'll be the first to admit that it's not really necessary for typical indoor use, the extremely high definition and brilliant contrast make it possible to use a portable device in scenarios you might not have considered before.
I did a month-long evaluation of an OLPC B2 prototype, and the thing that appealed to me most was the fact that it made it possible (or at least conceivable) to have constant access to information at all times, without worrying about rain, sun or shade, accidents, dust and most other kinds of things that make laptop-users cringe. The display played no small part in this.
I live in what the UN designates as a Least Developed Country, so I'll admit that my needs are special. But I can think of dozens of ways in which a device with similar attributes to the OLPC would be useful to inhabitants of the world's most developed cities. Their low cost and robustness, combined with their suitability to the task, finally give us true commoditisation of information technology.
This dual-mode screen is really impressive when you see it at work. It is truly innovative because it makes new uses of computers possible.
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Re:Altruism doesn't exist (Score:5, Insightful)
Rice and medicine are great in the short term, like after a disaster, but long term any free aid like that just kills local industry, ensuring that the third world country you're "helping" remains third world - and dependent on aid.
Laptops to poor people may seem useless (and I'm not convinced of their worth), but at least it's trying to change the underlying cause of being poor (access to production), instead of simply prolonging their existence for another day.
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One of the problems with a number of these countries is deforestation has altered the reflective index of the ground and, in turn, altered the local climate. Anothe
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This isn't a guaranteed way to learn, but history suggests that groups tend to learn efficiently when they have not only the right information but also the right conditions. What constitutes the right conditions is not something that is really known, but it's a fair bet that "Classical" schooli
Re:Close but no cigar (Score:5, Insightful)
What afflicts the third world seems to be disorganization, corruption, dishonesty, and low intelligence. That's why they're in the fix they're in, just like some communities in the USA (trailer parks, urban ghettoes, "artist communes") are third world status because they're filled with dishonest, disorganized, foolish people.
And we all know that these characteristics are absolute, because everybody in these places is dishonest, disorganized, and foolish, and they're all there because they chose to be there. And because all success takes is somebody to decide they're going to dig themselves out. It's not about resources, it's about willpower. These people can end their struggle and saunter off to Cigarandbrandytown and make a mint whenever they like.
No, wait, it's not like that at all. People are born into poverty, it's a genuine bitch to get out of it, and most have to spend at least the first 16 to 18 years in it by default, during which they may either luck out and develop solid values and see what's so incredibly fucked about where they're coming from, or they may experience quite the opposite and have their health ravaged by subsisting on cheap convenience foods, using drugs, and placing heavy value on trivial material possessions viewed as luxury items --never mind the education issue. And then leaving home with no financial aspects whatsoever is an utterly fantastic way to get set to enter the job market, where most positions available for people with no certifiable skills provide precious little room for advancement in either position or wage; the result here is either changing jobs a ton and seeming unstable or unreliable, or sticking it out longer-term with one or two businesses and then not getting anywhere and looking like a slug who does the bare-minimum to not get fired.
I could go on, but speaking as somebody who *did* grow up poor and pull himself out to live in a decent neighborhood and ultimately land a job paying $40,000 a year -a sum many of you will figure as paltry, but it's more than I'd ever anticipated making when I was a kid watching the cops come and haul away the latest drug dealing neighbors every few months- I can tell you that the people who pull themselves out are exceptions. Most people are stuck there because their situation is utterly hopeless, many of them know no better, and there is precious little in the way of outside stimulus to encourage them to get out beyond waking up every day and knowing that the people in the nice houses thirty miles down the road consider you to be the scum of the earth, which isn't really "encouraging" in the way most people would use the word.
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I completely sympathize with your post. However, coming from another previously dirt-floor poor person, I think you might be a little too despondent for the poor people. They have more than a few examples of how to work out of their situation. My uncle is a classic example. My father and his four eldest have worked their way out of the mire and muck but my uncle still doesn't see why he's still struggling to not be poor. The problem is simple. He refuses to change. When he sees a good opportunity that he
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My father and his four eldest have worked their way out of the mire and muck but my uncle still doesn't see why he's still struggling to not be poor. The problem is simple. He refuses to change. When he sees a good opportunity that he would like to take advantage of and he doesn't have the funds on hand to do so, he doesn't think "What can I change so that I do have the funds next time?", he instead thinks, "Fuck my luck."
That's a reduction. On the surface? Yes, he is refusing to change. But you are not
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That's science. If you can't face it, mod down -1 and claim I'm a "Troll" to formalize your impotence.
No, you were likely modded down for inflammatory rhetoric about the poor being dishonest, disorganized, and foolish, which does not meaningfully correlate with people having low IQs or any subsequent innovations which may lead to a particular society's lack of success, and that is what you're talking about here. Even so, your implication that poverty is merely a result of people being stupid, rather tha
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To what? Sell cheap laptops to enhance education? That's what they're doing so what's the problem?
It's not a donation, the countries it's being targeted at are buying these laptops. If anything it's an education scheme to improve a countries citizen's knowledge. It's going to take 10 maybe 15 years before we actually know if it worked of course.
Since they're the ones purchasing the laptops I don't
We'll know that it worked... (Score:2)
I think it may be sooner than that.
The XO seems to include a generous dose of hands-on, tinkering, write-your-own-programs tools. In many ways it reminds me of the start of the PC revolution. One of the really sad things to me is that during the 1980s there were really large numbers of "laypersons" who bought Commodores and Ataris and Apples a
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Please people, can't you atleast study the basic isses of poverty and starvation based on facts rather than just having strong opinions based on assumptions? The info is on wikipedia, if you can't be bothered to even read wikipedia, you're not entitled to an opinion!
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