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Palm Before the PalmPilot
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Zonk
on Sun Oct 21, 2007 05:33 PM
from the deep-in-the-mysts-of-the-past dept.
from the deep-in-the-mysts-of-the-past dept.
Gammu writes "SiliconUser has an in-depth history of the Palm, starting with its humble roots. The Pilot (later PalmPilot and finally just Palm) saved Palm Computing. Before the release of the Pilot, the company was subsisting (barely) on revenue from connectivity packages for HP PDA's and a version of Graffiti for the Newton. This was because its first PDA hardware product had failed under the weight of feature creep and design by committee. The first article in a series follows the early days of this company-reforming product."
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I miss Visor (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday October 24 2003, @12:44PM)
Re:I miss Visor (Score:4, Informative)
(http://nickstallman.net/)
It involves changing the touch screen's refresh frequency.
Apparently it works well.
Dont know about the noise from the amplifier. My Lifedrive has great audio.
Re:I miss Visor (Score:4, Interesting)
To be fair, the iPaq 1945 series with an earlier version of Windows Mobile was much, much better. I believe today nobody at Microsoft or HP actually uses PocketPCs. Everything has gone over to cellphones, leaving those of us who still need a non-phone PDA for whatever reason (generally, security policies) almost high and dry. I guess they have to follow the market, but I wish they would at least not advertise and ship stuff that doesn't work.
Re:I miss Visor (Score:5, Informative)
Indeed. To my mind, the Tungsten is a giant step backward. It's particularly stupid that Graffiti is what made the pilot in the first place but in the Tungsten they put Graffiti 2, which is slow, unreliable and hyper-sensitive to small timing variations. I really hope they fired the idiot who thought that was a good idea.
With the Visor and Graffiti, I could take notes continuously without looking at the screen (great for meetings). With the Tungsten and Graffiti 2, I have to keep checking that it read what I wrote or that it hasn't interpreted an "i" as "l." or vice versa. I've never figured out how to get it to consistently read an "r" or an "h". The original Graffiti was fast and sure. Graffiti 2 is so bad that I'll probably be looking for something with one of those moronic little keyboards as my next PDA. I know that is really slumming in technological backwaters, but I don't see much choice.
Next PC a casio? (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday August 17, @05:34AM)
According to David Pogue, in his book Piloting Palm, Casio was a particularly difficult partner to work with. Their relative inexperience with software and hardware development (the company's major portable products were digital wristwatches, calculators and inexpensive pocket organizers) made them irrationally intolerant of any bugs, no matter how minor or how unlikely to affect the user.
Can you imagine what IT would be like if Casio had created the PC? Why, it might actually work.
Amazing that IT has managed to train us so well to the existence of bugs in final products that we laugh at a company that seems to think bugs are unacceptable.
Truly amazing how we come to accept that the software we use is not functioning correctly.
Re:Next PC a casio? (Score:4, Insightful)
Great thingies (Score:4, Interesting)
If Palm isn't careful (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.monkeypantz.net/main/ | Last Journal: Monday July 30, @10:37AM)
in the meantime the iphone is looking to totally overtake that market (if they start working on bringing out third-party apps). if palm allows apple to start releasing third-party apps palm may as well throw in the towel.
i would like to keep using my palm-based treo. but i am getting so tired of the crashes and horrific blue tooth that it's getting to the point where i might just jump that shark and go the iphone route.
well - i will when a linux app like jpilot can sync with the iphone. if that never happens i'll wait for the open moko. if that doesn't happen i'll just scrap the pda and get a regular ol' phone.
Re:If Palm isn't careful (Score:4, Insightful)
It might mean a sharp downturn in the number of non Apple PDAs purchased for personal use. That's a far cry different than the wholesale revolution you are claiming it will be, though.
Your Men Are Already Dead ... (Score:4, Informative)
if palm allows apple to start releasing third-party apps ...
And what exactly can Palm do to prevent this?
Palm has been dead for awhile. All that's left is for someone to unplug the life support system.
SteveM
The Zoomer and Pam Vx....mmmmmm. (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://jimstips.com/)
Every hacker should use a palm (Score:1)
Bottom line: (Score:1)
(http://www.sine-wave.net/)
Period.
Until then, it's Garnet all the way, troubles or otherwise.
Almost like Woz pining for early days... (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Now, I do appreciate the greater flexibility of Windows mobile devices, and prefer it over the palm, but the speed, elegance, battery life, and so on, just aren't there. Too bad we can't have the best of both of these worlds...
Awful Article (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Saturday September 14 2002, @08:48PM)
Man, for once I read TFA and what do I get? A barely coherent, unedited swamp of words. Did anyone else find this article a slog to read?
It's never explained what Touchdown is. It's never explained what the "secure feature" is. I'm assuming Touchdown is the orginal name for what was to become the Pilot. But I don't really know. The word is just used suddenlty out without preamble, as if it had been previously introduced.
How about the following:
Perhaps it's just me, but the whole article read like the above excerpt.
Really? Zero to 95% accuracy? That's pretty, uh, fucking awful. Somehow I doubt that's what Macword published.
Wow, spelling mistake and redundancy in the same sentence.
See how the second sentence here should not follow the first? It should have followed the sentence preceeded the excerpt. This kind of construction left me rereading the same few lines several times over.
Guess that woulda bin bad fer bidness.
Hey Silicon User, hire a fucking editor!
Lookout! (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Monday October 15, @11:53PM)
An apostrophe mean's, "Lookout! Here come's an S!"
Re:Lookout! (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.watzmanassociates.com/josh/)
Uhm, what is new here? (Score:1)
Someone missed the point of tagging (Score:2, Funny)
Ah, the Vx (Score:2)
(http://www.cybernexus.net/)
I wore it out. It worked, and Grafitti was just wonderful.
Then I got a Palm III. And a modem. Having HandMail was a blessing. I was much more self-sufficient.
Finally, I got a Vx to replace my tired III... Sleek and wonderful, another modem of course, slick apps, and yes shirtpocket capable.
But I always had a Day-Timer, and used both. Having a Palm saved me from weekly (or more frequent) printings of a dynamic phonebook in Filemaker Pro. And cutting pages to fit...
I'm hoping things at Palm get back to the lean and mean days of old, where the product seemed to be king, and where good decisions were made.
Until then, Windows Mobile. Ugh.
Palm is still around? (Score:2)
(http://print-bingo.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 04 2003, @12:43AM)
I used my Handspring Deluxe for 6 years, it was good for it's time, and the interface is still pretty good, but it just doesn't have the features I want in a PDA today. When it came time to find a replacement, I didn't even consider Palm. I didn't have confidence that I'd be able to find modern apps to run on a new Palm device.
Fact checking, anyone? (Score:1)
Since when did GEOS come out in 1985? Yes, the Commodore 64 version came out then, but I seriously doubt that any of the code created for that was used in any of the designs discussed in the article. Try 1990, for the IBM version...so how old was that code again?
Oh, and the editor for this piece should be flogged for drinking on the job. What a steamer for readability!
I knew it.... (Score:2)
I owned a Palm V briefly, but I never could get used to the stylus text input, so I went with the Nokia Communicator line. I now have a Nokia E90.
X.
Palm desktop PIM (Score:2)
http://www.palm.com/us/support/downloads/windesk414.html [palm.com]
And, if you feel like it you can get a cheap Pilot off of Ebay and sync it so you can carry all the data that you entered into your PIM with you at any time. Or even sometimes try and enter data on the road (I am kidding).
US Robotics? (Score:1)
If so - Palm was by no means a weak player. US Robotics had strong dominance in the modem market (I still remember how I dreamt of getting a flashy new 33.6Kb US Robotics modem instead of the crappy Taiwanese 9600baud modem I had at home).
Since the Palm III (Score:2)
(http://www.myspace.com/over_engineered | Last Journal: Tuesday November 28 2006, @11:20AM)
I have been a loyal customer of Palm since they released their Palm III under U.S. Robotics. The one favorite feature that I think is still overlooked by many of today's PDA competitors (including Palm themselves) is the utter simplicity of it. All of the programs were dead simple to use. You entered your agenda in the Calendar. You synced and checked your e-mail. It had a (relatively) powerful calculator. It came with the bare essentials, and that's it.
I think it was these concepts that made the Treo 650 such a great and revolutionary mobile PDA device. The form factor was ingenious like their classic Palms, but the interface was simple, yet extremely robust. Anyone could learn how to use it, and anyone could make it as complex as they wanted (without pushing the software's limits, of course). Now thinking back on it, it's rather sad that their management went down the tubes like it did.
Now that Palm's out of the game, we have PDA operating systems that focus on bringing the PC to the mobile device, which I think was never the point of the PDA. That's why Windows Mobile has been able to get away with bringing out its mobile platform, which is, for all intents and purposes, a mobile version of their Windows operating system, but with more fluff for a mobile. Then there's Apple with their mini OS X, which is a whole different ballgame.
When Palm updates their OS, I hope that they keep their original model of simplicity intact. This concept is quickly becoming an afterthought.
Bah. SiliconUser is on drugs... (Score:2)
(http://www.spreadfir...s&id=958&t=1)
I still use my Newton 2100 daily. The screen real estate is large enough to actually work with, I can use the English alphabet (instead of, for instance, an inverted V when I mean A), and ooooo! I can do "inking" just like the article attributes to exclusively to PalmPrint. WTF?
The article states, "Even after complaints about the complexity of Newton Intelligence, Apple added more features with the 2.0 release of the software which did little to improve the user experience. Instead, the Newton gained a slight speed bump and new communications tool. It was still painfully slow to search for a contact or to add a new appointment."
WHAT? Users LOVED the new OS! Newton OS 2.0 is still, even today, one of the most intuitive interfaces ever created. "Painfully slow to add a new appointment?" How so, when all it takes is writing (or printing) this: "Lunch w/ John tomorrow." Voilà. Done. Suddenly a new appointment has appeared, with John's address and phone (if he was in your address book) set for 12 noon the next day. 1.5 seconds. Too slow? Did the author ever even USE a Newton? Or did he see Gary Trudeau's cartoon and figure Trudeau was the end-all be-all reviewer? (BTW, Trudeau's famous "Egg Freckles" cartoon was incorporated into later versions of the OS as an Easter egg, and a later model Newton was given to him, where he soon pronounced it as very nice.) This article seems based more on popular misconceptions of the time, rather than on any hands-on familiarity.
Now, one thing my Newton cannot do...is translate this sentence from the article for me:
"Palm eaked out an existance selling connectivity software to existing Zoomer customers and (after a rewrite) to users of the popular HP palmtops that rand MS-DOS."
I assume the author meant "eked" and "existence," but what is "rand?"
Looks like they went back in and fixed the "0 to 95 percent" thing since last night, yet still couldn't figure out how to run a spell checker on that "article." Maybe I should tell them about the Newton's spell checker...
Or maybe they'll discover them if they ever take a high school English course.
Z22 (Score:2)
(http://kisrael.com/)
But enjoying my iPhone - despite the current lack of TODOs, and my bad feelings about Outlook meaning I'm not actually synching my data to my PC - it makes me sad at how blatantly Palm dropped the ball.