Inventor of GMR Bids To Shake Up Storage, Again 220
Nrbelex writes "Stuart S. P. Parkin, an I.B.M. research fellow largely unknown outside a small fraternity of physicists, thinks he is poised to bring about a breakthrough that could increase the amount of data stored on a chip or a hard drive by a factor of a hundred. This is the man who pioneered exploiting the giant magnetoresistance effect in the 90s, causing disk storage to jump ahead of the Moore's Law curve. If he proves successful in developing 'racetrack memory,' he will create a universal computer memory, one that can potentially replace DRAM and flash memory chips, and make a 'disk drive on a chip' possible. It could begin to replace flash memory in three to five years, scientists say."
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Please... don't use the words porn, spill, and browser in the same sentence...
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I apologize.
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Anybody bought a hard drive in the last 10 years? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yeah, right.
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Many men that have created great things also had crackpot ideas.
And many men that created great things went on to do it again. And this guy has all the earmarks of a man who can shake things up. He's a respected researcher of a major corporation that is known for innovative products, working in his field of expertise, engaging in research that in some way builds on his previous research, using technology that is either already in place today or is feasible with today's technology. Now, questions of scalability, reliability and such will have to be addressed, but thi
One word... Segway (Score:2)
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We need to establish some kind of rubric for evaluating the efficacy of nomenclature repetition in craniophallic compensation.
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Shockley for another. Outside of his field
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Yea, ok. It's funny you posted this although no any previous comment even attempted to doubt his credibility, you karma whore.
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However, I think people have a reasonable point in that even the most promising technologies only have a small chance of making it to market. There are just so many different possible ways that we might choose to improve on current storage requirements that any particular option is low likelihood. This is how Moore's law and the like continue to work even while individual projects have failures or bumps.
This having been said I don't see the motivatio
Interesting Concept (Score:2)
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From the article's description, it sounds like it isn't "sliding" magnetic data in a metaphorical sense, but actually physically sliding magnets around. This sounds kinda like the nanomechanical computers the hard-code nanotech people (Drexler, etc.) talk about, although I'm not clear if it's quite down to that scale, yet.
It could be very cool, but I do wonder about the shock resistance of suc
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This New Scientist article [newscientist.com] from centuries ago is slightly clearer.
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You're right, that is better, but I'm a bit unclear still. This really sounds like a microscopic and magnetic version of delay line [science.uva.nl] memory. Is that really what this is?
I'm still amazed that delay line memories were ever used in consumer products (like calculators).
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The medium involves coiled wire on a silicon chip and "sliding" magnetic ones and zeros down "notches" in the wire.
Yep. It sounds like a nanotech abacus, with one bead on each wire. Relevant quote (for people who haven't R'd TFA):
His research group is able to slide the tiny magnets along notched nanowires at speeds greater than 100 meters a second. Since the tiny magnetic domains have to travel only submolecular distances, it is possible to read and write magnetic regions with different polarization as quickly as a single nanosecond -- far faster than existing storage technologies.
One poster mentioned wear problems with nanomachines. I'm fairly sure that well-designed nanotech can work without friction damage. Take DMD displays [wikipedia.org] for example. DLP projector bulbs wear out as normal, but I've never heard of the DMD chips themselves failing.
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You would likely rig things so that writes are buffered and sequential addresses take se
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that's a sweet case mod (Score:3, Funny)
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Library conversion (Score:5, Funny)
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Metric.
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...we could get Helen of Troy in the sack?
3rd dimension and cooling (Score:3, Insightful)
The article talks about how great and fast this is going to be, but doesn't go into how one fabricates wire loops on a semiconductor die, or how one would stack them in 3 dimensions
Re:3rd dimension and cooling (Score:4, Informative)
The genius of the design is that the bits can be moved along the nanowires, allowing tens to hundreds of bits or maybe more to be accessed by only one reader. The readers can be fabricated in an array on a chip, and the wires can be hung from above, storing the data vertically. AFAIK they haven't yet gotten to the point of figuring out fabrication issues for the nanowire parts, like making a vertically oriented array and aligning them to readers. So far they have been working on getting the racetrack part working. That is, they have been working on using an electric current to shift magnetic domains longitudinally along a nanowire, and reading/writing the domains. And actually, the article seems to suggest that they are ignoring the 3-dimensional nanowire fabrication issues for now, and are going to make prototypes with the wires fabricated traditionally, 2-dimensionally, on a chip surface, which may still be competitive with Flash.
As for heat issues, Hopefully the amount of current necessary will be small and thus the wires themselves will generate little heat. I would imagine that this design would have fewer transistors than, say, a DRAM, since the transistors will not be storing the data themselves. The transistors remain 2-dimensional, only on the chip surface. The wires are the only 3-dimensional part.
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In other words, different parts of the wire are positive and others are negative, and they can get those polarities to move along the wire.
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Whats the point... (Score:5, Insightful)
If every 4mb of music you buy have costs $2 [slashdot.org], then your 16 Terrabyte Ipod would cost $4 million to fill up.
Extra capacity is useless if the cost of data is artificially inflated
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As storage grows, so does the bit rate and fidelity of file formats, and the way we use storage itself. I don't know about you, but back in 1994, I had maybe 20 meg of low-bitrate WAV files on my 250 megabyte harddrive. 10 years later, I had 20 gigabytes of MP3 files on my 250 gigabyte harddrive. In another 10 years, I fully expect to have 20 terrabytes of audio/video on my 250 terrabyte drive.
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If your measure of data cost is size, then I have an uncompressed bridge to sell you.
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bubble memory reborn? (Score:2, Insightful)
Thus again proving (Score:3, Insightful)
This is a case of.. (Score:2)
Not evolution...
Five Years. It's always Five Years. (Score:5, Funny)
Five years! It's always Five Years!
By 2012 I expect to have, this super memory technology, solar cells with efficiency above 70% for pennies per watt, flying cars, paper thin televisions the size of my wall, fuel cell powered hybrid cars, batteries replaced by power cells that store more power, cost less, are infinitely rechargeable, and charge/discharge like capacitors -- plus several other things from the last few months of Slashdot.
Also the Mayan calendar will have expired, and the entire West Coast in to the Sierra Nevada mountains will be flooded, so I don't know how useful this all will be to me.
It's not up to the scientist (Score:2)
-Rick
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Production says 10 years if don't screw up the prototypes again.
And accounting says in 1 year it won't matter because you're all being laid off.
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I like your future better than mine, where I am running from grey goo, hiding from flesh-eating robots, all
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16 cores
10GB Ram
300 GB HVDs, burnable
5-10 TB disks
Aforementioned disks will be 90% full or pron
Carpal tunnel syndrome
Be happy with that.
Storage leaps (Score:5, Interesting)
"I was over at Jimmy's house yesterday and asked him to put some good stuff on my thumb drive. He gave me HD copies of the top 80 movies released in the past two years, plus 2000 of his favorite albums.
Meanwhile, a second thumb drive I keep clipped to my belt has been keeping an audio/video recording of the last 17 months of my life, nonstop."
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Combined with wireless internet, and you are also a one person, non stop, possible reporter, eye on the scene.
How far from there to Hive Mind?
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You can do that now, for at least several years worth of your life at a time. The rest is a matter of getting the video connection back to wherever you've stashed your archives. Or hell, you could just stream it there directly.
Thing is, most people don't want to do that, and they don't want you to do so either, at least when they're involved. Revolutions happen when
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Wonderful. It will take approximately ONE LIFETIME to review the recording.
Maybe 50% of a lifetime with compression and high speed review.
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the issue is our current "hardware" is "fuzzy". it's not solid, binary, like silicon.
What if we make our memory solid.. no misremembering. No forgotten detail unless it's just not important enough to recollect (with the barrier to that dropping as UIs improve, making it easier and easier to recollect anything). What impact would *just that* have? How many times have you been
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Which is 60MB/s.
5TB is 5120MB.
5120 / 60 = 85.333 seconds.
Your intuitive understanding of the speed of USB is wrong because the thumb drives you have used are most likely USB 1.1, and they're most likely flash based.
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Oops! 5120MB is not a TB, its a GB. a little more than one layer of a DVD.
A Terabyte would be 1000 times more than that..
85333 seconds, which is almost 24 hours.
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Don't worry. By then, actual FireWire 3200 silicon will be available. and will knock that down to under four hours.
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Makes that roughly 85333 seconds -- 24 hours of copying.
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"Inventor" of GMR a little misleading (Score:4, Informative)
Now here comes the MPAA and RIAA (Score:4, Funny)
This speed and storage capacity and can only be used for downloading and pirating illegal copies of movies and music.
Therefore this must not be permitted to happen.
At Long Last! (Score:5, Insightful)
FTFA:
"His idea is to stand billions of ultrafine wire loops around the edge of a silicon chip -- hence the name racetrack -- and use electric current to slide infinitesimally small magnets up and down along each of the wires to be read and written as digital ones and zeros.
His research group is able to slide the tiny magnets along notched nanowires at speeds greater than 100 meters a second. Since the tiny magnetic domains have to travel only submolecular distances, it is possible to read and write magnetic regions with different polarization as quickly as a single nanosecond -- far faster than existing storage technologies."
What is really really old is new again, eh?
I can see it now - to erase your iPod, turn it on its side and shake - just like an Etch-a-Sketch!
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Thats just great, so every time I go running (It could happen!!!) I'm going to erase my iPod?
Quite old. (Score:2, Informative)
New Scientist [newscientist.com] covered this a lifetime ago.
Holy inappropriate reference Batman! (Score:3, Insightful)
I didn't realize that the amount of data stored on a disk was related to the number of transistors on an integrated circuit. This sentence doesn't even make sense if you misinterpret Moore's law the way it's usually misinterpreted...doubling of speed of CPUs.
Moore's Law [wikipedia.org]
Fermat Jr.'s Last Theorem (Score:5, Funny)
*Inventor* of GMR? (Score:2)
Whats really interesting.. (Score:5, Insightful)
This is interesting not because its "more, better, faster" but because it can completely change the way computers work. Imagine simply not needing all the storage tiers we currently have... disks, harddrive, flash, DRAM, cache... imagine something big enough and fast enough to cover it all. A CPU and this memory, and nothing else. It could mean big changes to your operating system. Imagine just not needing to load and save things anymore. Imagine not needing elaborate schemes like virtual memory paging, harddrive caching, file systems, or even needing to compress things as often. There's all kinds of overhead and mechanisms in our OS's that are currently needed to deal with all the different storage hardware and their limitations.
If this memory can work fast enough, it could even change the way CPU's are designed. It could change almost everything.
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Imagine not needing elaborate schemes like virtual memory paging, harddrive caching, file systems, or even needing to compress things as often.
Virtual memory is A Good Thing (tm), and once you have a working VM system, paging can be a relatively easy add-on. Stripping out paging but keeping VM won't be all that much simpler, I don't think.
HD caching, I'll give you.
File systems? You'll still need to find all that data and mete out access to it. Since I don't know what latencies would be like in this storage, it's possible that current filesystems that are optimized for high latency and high throughput might still be reasonable.
Finally, a
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The ability to use a full 4GB virtual address space (i386) is only one of the major features of virtual memory. An equally important goal of virtual memory is process isolation. That is, the illusion that a process has exclusive access to the full memory. Prior to virtual memory, programs had to know what other programs were running and stay out of their physical address spaces. Virtual memory drastically simplifies the lives of million
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And don't get me wrong, I'm not a naysayer. I was for this to happen. I want a PDA sized gadget with all my music and the library on
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The CD-ROM came out in the eighties. Yet it wasn't until the very late 90s that CD burners and blank media were widely available to consumers - at which point video DVDs were common, though it wasn't until the early 00s that DVD-Rs popped up on the market. While they became faster and more afforable much faster than CDs, they're still ultimately an evolution of the same technology and form factor. Anythi
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http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html [hitachigst.com]
Perpendicualr Recording came out very very very fast after it's concept.. hell i want to say it was less than 3 months between release of idea to owning a drive with that tech.
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So that explains the dancing clean suit men in the Intel commercials...
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Ah, wait, sorry, wrong film, must've had my sections mixed up in the rental store
*blush*
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No, that's a hard disk DVR that also burns DVDs. The terabyte is just a hard drive.
Three to five years is OK... (Score:4, Insightful)
Update of electronic devices typically takes quite a while. NAND flash was invented in the 1980s yet only really caught on in approx 2002.
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Yeah. Because there certainly has not been a leap from hard drives the size of a washing machine, to drives the size of a toaster, to drives of modern form factor. And there definitely has not been a progression from 1 megabyte to 20 megabyte to 200 megabyte to 1 gigabyte to 20 gigabyte to 150 gigabytes... No siree, it's all a big lie.
Everyone knows that hard drives are vaporware. And the idea of computer performance increasing exponentially? I mean who the hell would believe that shit.
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Yeah. Because there certainly has not been a leap from hard drives the size of a washing machine, to drives the size of a toaster, to drives of modern form factor. And there definitely has not been a progression from 1 megabyte to 20 megabyte to 200 megabyte to 1 gigabyte to 20 gigabyte to 150 gigabytes... No siree, it's all a big lie.
There hasn't been that much progression in every area, try racing modern disk drives and you'll find they're sorely lacking in that department. :(
And *my* first hard drive was 5 megs (divided in I can't remember how many floppies because that's all the CP/M related OS knew how to handle), so there.
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I have that in my laptop. Unfortunately I only have a 2 gig harddrive but I do have 56k on my video card.
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