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Apple iPhone Dissected

Posted by CowboyNeal on Sat Jun 30, 2007 08:27 AM
from the better-them-than-you dept.
Conch writes "Only hours after the launch, the Apple iPhone has been dissected. The good folks at AnandTech violated one of the first iPhones to still our curiosity about whats inside the aluminum shell. 'Please note that we're doing this so you are not tempted to on your recent $500/$600 expenditure, while it is quite possible to take apart using easy to find tools we'd recommend against it as it will undoubtedly void your warranty and will most likely mar up the beautiful gadget's exterior.'"
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  • More and more detailed pics (Score:5, Informative)

    by stefanb (21140) * on Saturday June 30 2007, @08:33AM (#19698757) Homepage
    at ThinkSecret [thinksecret.com]. Plus they didn't destroy the case :-)
  • What's that? (Score:5, Insightful)

    That noise - as if millions of fanbois suddenly cried out in shock and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened....

    Joke's aside - the thing I really noted from TFA was:

    The big yellow thing in the middle is the iPhone battery; you're definitely not replacing this thing on your own
    More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially.
    • by Cordath (581672) on Saturday June 30 2007, @08:52AM (#19698827)
      Have you ever changed the battery in an iPod? It's possible, but a royal nuisance. Anyone who has done so probably realizes that Apple never really intended it to be possible. With the iPhone they've taken it a step further by soldering the battery directly to the board. I think that says it all. The only question is whether or not the battery will live up to daily use long enough to last out the contracts people are signing themselves into.

      From the pictures on anandtech, it appears that the iPhone uses a Li-poly battery. That's an interesting choice, but a concerning one. Those typically do not last for as many charges as a plain old lithium ion battery. Apple is probably counting on the fact that the people who will lay out the kind of money the iPhone costs are the sort who won't try to nurse a device on for years, but rather, are the sort that will bin said device as soon as the next greatest thing (Hopefully the next generation of iPhone) comes along.

      I suppose in this light it's not really planned obsolescence. Apple just built the iPhone to the minimum specs of the fickle trendy gadget crowd.
      [ Parent ]
      • by DarkVader (121278) on Saturday June 30 2007, @11:37AM (#19699723)
        So it takes a soldering iron to change the battery. That's not exactly making it a challenge for most people on Slashdot, right?

        And it's not like we're going to have any real trouble sourcing a battery either, all the usual iPod battery suppliers will have them.

        I'm really not sure why people keep whining about the battery thing. That's really the least of the iPhone's problems as far as I'm concerned.

        My list of why I won't buy one now, and maybe not ever:

        1. I don't know if it will tether. If it won't, dealbreaker.
        2. EDGE - I have an EDGE phone now. It's too slow. If 802.11 worked where I needed my phone to access the internet, I wouldn't need my phone to access the internet.
        3. Javascript is not an SDK.
        4. Not enough storage capacity to be useful as an iPod. I wouldn't mind at all having a hard drive in my phone, I want 80GB, not 8.
        5. I don't do 2 year contracts.
        6. This thing is useless without activation. If I decide I don't want Cingular, it's not even an ipod, it's a doorstop.

        I don't hate Apple, I make Apple computers work for a living. I'm typing this on an iBook. But it looks like my next phone will probably be a RAZR v3xx, not an iPhone. And if the iPhone would do what I want, I'd be all over it.
        [ Parent ]
    • Re:What's that? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:23AM (#19698969)
      More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially.

      I've had three mobile phones in my life, each of them for about 4 years. I have never replaced a battery in any of them.

      Granted, at the end of the 4 years I might need to charge them every three days instead of every five, but that's not a problem for me. And by the time I get rid of the phone it's usually because it has failed in general - broken clamshell joint or broken charger connection, for example.

      Most likely Apple has made the battery non-replacable because they have better uses for the space required for a replacable battery; and because user replacement of batteries is a fairly unusual thing.

      Just my $0.02
      [ Parent ]
    • by Jeremy_Bee (1064620) on Saturday June 30 2007, @11:51AM (#19699807)

      More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially.
      The Apple strategy with non-replaceable batteries could actually be considered the greener option.

      I still have a pile of the various PDA's and cell phones I have had over the years. Most used undersized batteries that reduced the initial cost of the unit (even though most cost about the same as today's iPhone), but also didn't last. This required me to purchase new batteries, extra batteries, and bigger, add-on batteries and battery packs. All of these batteries are in the same pile, waiting for me to find appropriate green disposal (some day).

      I would argue that most people eventually just chuck these things away and that they end up in a landfill somewhere. Also the fact that the batteries are generally crap means that the average user goes through more batteries for a non-Apple "replaceable battery" product than they do for the Apple product.

      The fact that Apple offers a low-cost, no-hassle, battery replacement option means that the majority of iPod and now iPhone), battery replacements happen through Apple instead of the consumer, and thus the batteries all get properly recycled instead of just being dumped. The main cause of battery pollution from iPods for instance is whatever portion of the populace that does not return them to Apple for replacement or recycling and just chucks the item away when it's dead. That is the consumer's fault, not Apple's.

      The only thing that could be done better is that Apple could take back the old iPods so as to alleviate even the worst acts of the consumers of their products. They already do this in a limited way and have announced recently a goal of doing a take-back on every product they make.

      How much more green could they possibly be right now?

      [ Parent ]
  • Wow (Score:5, Interesting)

    by niceone (992278) * on Saturday June 30 2007, @08:36AM (#19698775) Journal
    Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?
    • Re:Wow (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) on Saturday June 30 2007, @08:39AM (#19698789)
      Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?

      You know, I have the feeling people who buy high-tech, flashy gadgetry such as the iPhone aren't likely to invest in it for the long term, with a value-for-money approach to buying and owning the product. The battery will probably last long enough for the owner to have another "oh shiny!" purchasing moment and relegate his iPhone to the bottom of some drawer...
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)

        by suv4x4 (956391) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:00AM (#19698859)
        You know, I have the feeling people who buy high-tech, flashy gadgetry such as the iPhone aren't likely to invest in it for the long term, with a value-for-money approach to buying and owning the product.

        You'll be surprised. Most Mac people I know are poor, unemployed, and step on toes around their machines. But they were so convinced they should absolutely must get Apple, they would stay away from pot for a month to afford one.
        [ Parent ]
    • Re:Wow (Score:5, Informative)

      by Gord (23773) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:07AM (#19698901) Homepage
      Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?

      Apple will replace it under their service program, when the phone is out-of-warranty. $85.95 including postage.

      http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/batter y/ [apple.com]
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Wow (Score:4, Informative)

        by djh101010 (656795) * on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:34AM (#19699013) Homepage Journal

        Apple will replace it under their service program, when the phone is out-of-warranty. $85.95 including postage.

        http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/batter y/ [apple.com]
        Oh come on now, Gord, the bashers were displaying their ignorance for us, and you had to go and spoil the little show by injecting actual facts and everything. What were you thinking?

        Another point, is that I've sent 2 iPods back to Apple for battery replacement, and both times they came back as (presumably) the same guts but a new battery, and case. So the cost (60 bucks as I recall) was in effect a refurb. Looked like a brand new unit coming back.
        [ Parent ]
      • Re:Wow (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Wdomburg (141264) on Saturday June 30 2007, @11:02AM (#19699481)
        Hell, I can't even buy a $2500 COMPUTER that can keep pace with technology that long.

        Some people use their electronics to do things, not "keep pace with technology". My last $600 computer lasted me seven years.
        [ Parent ]
  • Snuff movie (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 30 2007, @08:49AM (#19698813)
    It's like some kind of warped geek snuff movie
  • by jc42 (318812) <jc1742.gmail@com> on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:41AM (#19699053) Homepage Journal
    I got my first "Congratulations, you have won new iPhone" phishing message, complete with link (to http://203.121.78.200/... [203.121.78.200]) to click on and give them all my personal contact info.

    This is indeed an opportunity for all kinds of modern enterpreneurs.

  • ifixit has a much better takeapart... (Score:5, Informative)

    by dreemkill (170748) on Saturday June 30 2007, @10:04AM (#19699165) Homepage
    http://stream.ifixit.com/ [ifixit.com]

    they did it some time yesterday, about an hour after it came out i think.

    and by the looks of it, they didn't destroy it.
      • Re:SIM (Score:5, Informative)

        by lexarius (560925) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:16AM (#19698929)
        You can change the SIM in the iPhone too (there are pictures of the software demanding that the SIM be inserted). However, like many US phones, it is vendor locked and can only be used with SIMs from a particular provider. If Apple drops the exclusive deal with AT&T (which they can do in two years), they'll probably send out unlock codes via Software Update. Maybe.
        [ Parent ]
    • Re:Why not just one chip? (Score:4, Informative)

      by jamesh (87723) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:19AM (#19698949)
      I'm not an EE guru, and I know next to nothing about the iPhone, but very standard chips exist for lots of things like 802.11abg, GSM, CDMA, 3G, USB, Bluetooth, LCD/TFT displays, audio, battery charging and monitoring etc. Also, some of these components might be region specific. It makes some sense to keep them separate rather than try and stick everything on the same die, unless you are really pushed for space. Once the thing leaves the factory it may not be repaired, but at the assembly level they may well swap out a bad Bluetooth chip and replace it if required...

      It also allows for (eg) 802.11n ability to be added at a later date if a pin compatible 802.11abgn chip comes on the market, or for them to change display vendors (maybe requiring a different driver chip) if they need to.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Why not just one chip? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Thumper_SVX (239525) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:25AM (#19698977) Homepage
      I'm not an EE guru, but it seems to me the reason for discreet chips in a lot of these devices actually serves several purposes.

      Firstly, data speeds between chips might not match; something that's a lot easier to engineer into discreet chips than a single chip with everything on board.

      Secondly, it gives the manufacturer the freedom to switch out components at will. If you dismantle anything from a large embedded device manufacturer, you might find that a single "generation" of a product might go through several iterations of chips simply because the manufacturer was able to source chips from different chip manufacturers for better prices.

      Hell, I know I've seen a number of devices of supposedly the same generation that have had four or five iterations of motherboard and probably more of the chips themselves. Don't kid yourself; manufacturers of these devices are all about maximizing profits, and they do that by keeping their product lines "nimble"

      Third, and as an aside to the second point; fabbing a custom chip is expensive, in time, resources and cost. Most manufacturers will use off the shelf components where possible so that they can keep the costs down. Custom chips tend to be fabbed only where off the shelf solutions don't exist or fail to meet some other engineering goal. The custom chips shown in the iPhone are a prime example of this. Although we don't know for sure what's inside that ARM package (the part numbers seem incongruous), we can guess that they did combine multiple discreet components into that chip package. In the case of the iPhone this was probably done to meet the packaging requirements of the entire device; i.e. Apple wanted a slim and compact device and discreet chips may have taken more space than the engineering team wanted.

      However, the fact that there are several off the shelf chips on the board as well tells me that they were balancing cost and engineering requirements... this almost certainly took a lot of time and it's a nicely engineered solution. I look forward to version 2... which is when I might consider buying one (sorry, tethering and 3G are a big deal for me as I use them daily).
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Why not just one chip? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Bender_ (179208) on Saturday June 30 2007, @10:58AM (#19699457)

      Ignore all other replies, they are only half truth.

      The truth is: Different manufacturing processes are required depending on the function of the chips. There are many different types of integrated circuits in a cellphone: Logic (processor), analog parts (Silicon and exotic III-V semiconductors), Memory (NAND flash, NOR flash, DRAM), Sensors (think MEMS). Each of these require a different process flow. Combining those is often extremely expensive to impossible.

      The way it is usually done is to use different circuit techniques to achieve the same functionality in a silicon logic process. However in many situations this is not possible or economical, yet.

      [ Parent ]
    • Re:What did slashot do (Score:4, Insightful)

      by MightyYar (622222) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:31AM (#19698995)
      The unwashed masses have Paris Hilton, we geeks have the iPhone...

      Still, I'd like one of the editors here to take the attitude toward the iPhone that Mika Brzezinski [youtube.com] has towards Paris. This video is quite funny, she was really mad!

      Back to Slashdot - you realize you made the problem worse by clicking on and replying to this story? If the editors are looking at what types of stories lead to more clicks, you've just "voted"! :)
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Almost good enough for me. (Score:4, Informative)

      by sethstorm (512897) * on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:32AM (#19699005) Homepage
      Or you can go with an unlocked phone [nokiausa.com] with all that and more. No touchscreen, no lock-in, no lack of 3G, no closed door to third party apps. Gambling for version 2 might not be a good idea.
      [ Parent ]
    • NEO1973 (Score:5, Informative)

      by Tony (765) on Saturday June 30 2007, @10:00AM (#19699145) Homepage Journal
      Sounds like you want a FIC NEO1973 [openmoko.org]. According to Sean Moss-Pultz in his most recent announcement [openmoko.org], the consumer model due in Q4 this year will include wifi.

      It's almost fully open. As in, everything is open except the AGPS daemon, which you don't need for GPS, just AGPS.

      And it'll only be $450, for the phone itself. No contracts required.
      [ Parent ]
    • by catwh0re (540371) on Saturday June 30 2007, @09:56AM (#19699119)
      All phone functions can be carried out with one hand. (similar to how you handle an ipod with one hand.)

      More advanced functions such as web browsing and browsing email are far easier with two hands (but if you can be bothered stretching your thumb around, then again you can do it one handed.)

      It's silly to suggest that the iPhone is the only phone that benefits from two hands. (E.g. any phone that uses a stylus requires two hands on the go.) Since many phones do already require two hands to operate them, having a multi-touch display represents better efficiency of the hands (that is, it should speed you along a little bit, touch typing and gesture short cuts are good examples of this.)

      [ Parent ]
      • Re:The software (Score:5, Insightful)

        by quickbrownfox (900989) on Saturday June 30 2007, @12:33PM (#19700117)

        I haven't yet worked out whether the iPhone will be a big success or a massive flop. What I do know though is that it will only be bought by people who buy based on hype rather than featureset. So the equation comes down to how many Apple fanboys are there with buckets of cash who will buy something purely because Apple tells them to.
        So I guess the revolutionary interface doesn't count as a "feature"? I saw several women and teens in line at my local Apple store - not your typical Apple fanboys. I think these people respond to the iPhone because Apple designed it for them. They didn't design it for you. Just ignore it if you don't want one, but don't accuse the people who are interested in it of being gullible simpletons. Apple has built their reputation on simple, elegant, intuitive interface design. And, whether you care about it or not, that is an important feature to a lot of people.
        [ Parent ]