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Unlimited Wireless Plans Coming

Posted by kdawson on Wed Mar 14, 2007 06:51 AM
from the talk-much-surf-often-text-lots dept.
An anonymous reader tells us about a BusinessWeek story claiming that in a few years most wireless plans will be unlimited. And pretty costly: unlimited cell calling, SMS, and data for on the order of $115 - $150 a month. Sprint is conducting a trial of such an offering in San Francisco, with the intent of rolling it out nationwide, and other carriers are said to be sure to follow suit. An interesting claim in the article is that in 5 years time, 40% of the US population will be untethered from landlines and using their cell numbers exclusively (vs. 15% now).
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  • Yawn... (Score:5, Informative)

    by sugapablo (600023) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @06:54AM (#18345337) Homepage
    I already get unlimited wireless in Pittsburgh for $44/month from Cricket.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      Here in Malaysia we have both EDGE and 3G unlimited data plans from around USD35/month from 3 different providers.

      Wouldn't be surprised if other providers around the world have more competitive rates.

      This is hardly news.
    • Re:Yawn... (Score:4, Informative)

      by morgan_greywolf (835522) * on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:34AM (#18345623) Homepage Journal
      I've seen this and the MetroPCS service, and the one thing I've noticed about both is the limited coverage area. They only seem to have service in the big cities, and nothing even just outside. For example, here's MetroPCS' coverage for Detroit [metropcs.com]. Look in the northwest part of the coverage area and note that if you go out to Howell, you're covered, but not in Pinckney, which is just as populated as Howell. Now compare the coverage map for Sprint [sprintpcs.com]. Notice that just about the entire freakin' state of Michigan is covered. The MetroPCS map looks like Sprint's coverage map ca. 1992. Ditto for Cricket in its coverage areas.

      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        Cricket is perfect for replacing a landline, though. After all, the "coverage area" of a landline is one building. You can pay about the same amount per month for a Cricket phone and carry it all over town - and apparently you also get unlimited usage when
        • Re: (Score:2)

          Factor in unlimited free long distance (which is also part of my plan) and you're gold. I still have a land line, for DSL and all, but I was able to drop my long distance provider (AT&T).
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Right, perfect for replacing a landline, but a poor replacement for 'real' cellular service from one of the big networks.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      Cool. I just heard that MetroPCS [metropcs.com] has all the mentioned features for a flat $60/month. And from the looks of plans page [metropcs.com], that includes taxes.

  • how many people out there will wreck their finances this way?

    Amazing, just a few years ago most people didn't think they had to have a cell phone, let alone use it all the time. Yet these days I know some families that have gone over the top with them.

    Sorry, but having a $50 to $100+ new monthy expense is not my idea of progress. What is truly amazing is that the Cell providers marketing worked so well. Pay by the minute? I guess unlimited coming so expensive makes sense because people will convince themselves they are getting a deal.

    We have unlimited local calling on some plans in the Atlanta area and a few give you unlimited national calling too. These plans are regularly less than $50 a month but the only hang up is limited local coverage even though they piggy back on another network.

    Now unlimited high speed data "might" be worth it. Might be because for the most part people don't need it. Businesses and self employed might need it. Say going to a client and making a presentation and you need stuff from outside at the last minute. Regular people? What, watch YouTube on my phone? I guess some will.

    $100+ a month for voice - not for me, I can put that $100 to far better use. Kill yourself with monthlies and keep moaning about how you don't get paid enough - I won't
  • Ok, but what about... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by djones101 (1021277) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @06:58AM (#18345371)
    regular calling? I don't need SMS, I don't need Internet connectivity. I'm one of those rare freaks out there that actually uses the cell phone for *gasp* emergencies and quick phone calls. I don't text message people under the table during dinner (I engage in what some people call conversation with friends and family face-to-face), I don't browse the Internet (that's what I have a wireless work laptop for), and I stick with one of the pre-installed ringtones (ever notice how many people use Jingle Bells as their ringtone at Christmas?). Great, create the unlimited calling plan for $150, just don't leave those of us who only need about $25 worth of that plan in the dust.
    • Re:Ok, but what about... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Professor_UNIX (867045) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:24AM (#18345555)

      I'm one of those rare freaks out there that actually uses the cell phone for *gasp* emergencies and quick phone calls.
      All my mother-in-law wants is a phone that can be loaded with 100 minutes for emergencies to call a tow truck or her husband and she wants those minutes to never expire. She just wants to throw the phone in the glove compartment for emergencies, but I have yet to find any prepaid service like this. Everyone wants you to periodically (every 2-3 months) buy new minutes to refresh your balance or else your service is terminated. Why should it matter whether you use the minutes you bought today or 3 years from now? You paid for minutes and that should be all that matters.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        It costs money to operate a cell tower, even if nobody uses it. Why should your mother-in-law have permanent access to such a service for a one-time charge?
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        I have a AT&T (nee Cingular) GoPhone that has exactly this plan. Pay 'em $100 up front. Minutes cost $0.25 per. At the end of 12 months they keep any of the $100 that you haven't used.

        Since I would only use the phone for emergencies there's no way I'll
      • Re:Ok, but what about... Emergencies (Score:5, Informative)

        by Insightfill (554828) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @08:18AM (#18346081) Homepage
        "All my mother-in-law wants is a phone that can be loaded with 100 minutes for emergencies to call a tow truck or her husband and she wants those minutes to never expire."

        For true emergencies, any working cell phone can still make 911 calls (or cellular version thereof *999 - whatever). That's free - no carrier, no bills. In many areas, the local police or cell phone stores will take donated old cell phones to give to local women's shelters and to shut-ins for just this purpose.

        Look around the house, find a phone from a provider you no longer use or whatever, and charge it up and give it to her. The biggest hassle is usually the battery - those lithium batteries have a 'shelf-life' of about three years before they can hold no charge at all. They hold their existing charge quite nicely on the shelf, but their capacity is what goes down.

        [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:2)

        This seems like a good place in this discussion to point out my current cellphone plan which has zero fixed fees, you only pay by the minute. Then again, this is in Finland where you buy your own phone and get the service separately. Most plans here are pr
    • Re: (Score:2)

      just don't leave those of us who only need about $25 worth of that plan in the dust.

      The problem is you can't find any plans cheaper than $39.99 these days and those usually end up being $60 after taxes and other "fees".

      I never have even come close to using
  • Am I the only one who's concerned with the health risks involved with all these increased dosages of electromagnetic radiation exposure?

    I'm pretty sure that we're all the Guinea pigs of tomorrow.

    Soon enough we'll start comparing the cellular industry with
    • Re:health concerns? (Score:5, Funny)

      by petabyte (238821) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:19AM (#18345509)
      Am I the only one who's concerned with the health risks involved with all these increased dosages of electromagnetic radiation exposure?

      Of course not. That is why I, like many slashdoters, avoid that big bright producer of electromagnetic radiation in the sky whenever possible. As a side benefit, my pasty white completion will soon be white enough for me to qualify as a white body and as such, EM radiation will just bounce happily away from me.

      Note: Intended as a joke and I haven't had a physics class since High School so ...
      [ Parent ]
    • Re: (Score:2)

      I hardly think that holding a radio transceiver next to your head is more than a drop in the bucket compared to the massive amounts of EM being broadcast terrestrially and from space.

      Plus it's non-ionizing radiation anyway. The most a radio wave can do tis
      • Re: (Score:2)

        ...it would take a staggering number of cell phones and an unrealistic continuous exposer time.

        Don't you see how relevant that is to this story though?! With unlimited plans, I'll be able to finally afford that fifth cell phone I've been looking at! I'
  • Just like ISPs! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by inviolet (797804) <pineminder&yahoo,com> on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:04AM (#18345409) Journal

    "Our customers have unlimited bandwidth, but some are more unlimited than others!"

    Now that we know how ISPs have chosen to implement 'unlimited', we should expect similar from the cellular companies. It won't be long before they've all merged together anyway.

    The FDA requires food products that contain no actual cheese to refrain from using the word 'cheese' in their names. And so you get things like 'cheez whiz'. I say we require ISPs and Cellular companies to do likewise. Then we'll know when our plan is truly 'unlimited' versus merely 'unlymited'. :)

  • When we had the great power outage in 2003, our land phone lines continued to work, but the cell phones were hosed. My wife's greatest concern has always been the reliability of the land lines, even though they too can go out. This is probably the last mai
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      The only reason the landlines still worked had to do with what they did to get the reliability.

      They've got huge banks of 48 volt lead-acid or better batteries that hold 48-72 hours of juice
      minimum for the entire system at "normal" usage levels. If the mob
  • Unlimited? Has to be MUCH cheaper. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by gelfling (6534) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:14AM (#18345475) Homepage Journal
    Today I have one land line exclusively for the 'unlimited' aspect of the MCI Neighborhood plan because that line accrues 4-5,000 (thousand) minutes a month. It costs $72 including taxes. I also have an AT&T CallVantage VoIP line for work and I believe its 'unlimited' is actually capped at 5,000 minutes/month. But before you all tell me to discard MCI landline let me tell you that it's orders of magnitude more reliable than CallVantage. If I had to pay for AT&T VoIP, I wouldn't. It sucks. Then I have 5 lines on a shared minute Sprint plan. 2,500 minutes/month. So if Sprint wants to give me 'unlimited' minutes it has to be an additional 5,000 minutes per month and it can't cost more than $50/month plus all the garbage taxes. So the price has to come down by at least half. Compared to crappy VoIP for $25/month 'unlimited' cell would have to come down in price by 3/4ths.
  • by Iloinen Lohikrme (880747) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:16AM (#18345483)
    How can they charge so much? In Finland, you can in example get 3G phone packet from Saunalahti that includes a 3G phone, 3000min/month to all GSM and wired phones, videophone-calls for 3000min/month, 3000 sms/month, 3000mms/month and 3G-, EDGE- and GRPS data connection with max 384 kbit/s speed and that only costs 57,95euros which already includes sales tax. To me paying 57euros from that packet is little bit expensive, I would definitely get it if it would cost 30 to 40 euros... charging 115 to 150 dollars from basically the same deal that Saunalahti offers is just crazy, I wouldn't accept it.
    • "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." - H. L. Mencken

      Part of the problem is that we are attempting to create a public utility from what started as a luxury service. We simply want to be able to talk on the phon
  • In the future there will be service for a little cheaper they are saying. Nextel plan with 2000 minutes for a blackberry with unlimited data is about $150. So this will just be taking it the next step, just like the current plans are a step beyond what u
  • Let's talk about tethers (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dan East (318230) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @07:28AM (#18345583) Homepage
    40% of the US population will be untethered from landlines

    Tethers need not be visible. In this case people will simply be exchanging a small one for a big, thick, heavy one. Anyone remember ye good ole days, when you had to purchase phone hardware exclusively from Ma Bell? We went through that crap once before the government stepped in and forced them to allow us options. Now we're going through the same thing again with the cellular industry - except its worse. We've got phones that should be capable of doing all sorts of fantastic things, but can't (or won't) unless we buy our software from the carrier, pay the bandwidth fees to them to transfer it (because we can't just plug our phone into our PC and transfer software that way), then continue paying subscription and bandwidth fees if we want to continue using our software. We have to sign 2 year contracts just to get a phone at a reasonable price. They offer insurance that, after 6 months, isn't worthwhile because the cost of the phone has plummeted, and it's cheaper to buy a phone from a 3rd party than pay just the deductible.

    Right now I think we're entering a phase in which carriers are not really trying to compete with one another. Have you ever noticed how you can go into a town and every gas station's prices are within a couple cents of one another, and go down the road a few miles and all those stations prices are 5% cheaper? That's because they aren't competing - they're consorting together (indirectly) in their micro-market to set the prices they want. Well, that's what's going on with cell market. You shouldn't have to pay $100 a month network fees for a single cell phone just for decent service, and unfortunately that's where we stand today. Enough people have been bit by an over-minute cell phone bill, with obscene per-minute rates, that the carriers can now extort people to pay a much higher flat monthly fee simply to avoid the risk.

    Dan East
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      How can you possibly compare government mandated monopoly to not getting all the software you want? You can change carriers at will. You may feel like they are moving too slow, but think about how much more your phone does today than in 2000. Digital wa
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      You shouldn't have to pay $100 a month network fees for a single cell phone just for decent service, and unfortunately that's where we stand today.

      But we do pay that, so they will charge it. [wikipedia.org]

      It's wrong to compare the cellular industry to a monopoly. Think o
  • I pay (Score:2)

    25/month for 3.6Mbits unlimited plan, wireless all over Stockholm. At the moment there's no problem with it at all. Though I wish I could configure it to automatically switch over to my WLAN when I'm at home, now I just continue to surf on the 3G network..
    • Re: (Score:2)

      Sweden is roughly the size of Montana and has 10 times the population. The problem in the US is that it is large, with sparse population except for a small number of large cities. In the large cities, there are a plethora of Cellphone companies and you can
  • I just checked plans on Verizon, and they have a 4000 minute plan, with free nights/weekends for $149.99. That is basically unlimited, since your core minutes would only be used M-F, 6am - 9pm, which is roughly 4500 minutes. Considering "In" calling and
    • Re: (Score:2)

      Your math is a little off, I think you meant to calculate for the entire month, not just one week.

      6 am to 9 pm is 15 hours, or 900 minutes. Multiply by 5 weekdays and you get 4500. Multiply by 4 weeks (lets calculate for February just for the sake of simpl
  • From TFA "...plus unlimited mobile broadband access.".

    Isn't this just marketing? The last I'd read, mobile data access in the US could hardly be called "broadband".
  • How can we as a society on our own free will determine it's better to go with a service that has no regulations on quality or uptime? It's now a daily occurance that I or someone else I'm talking with goes through the "are you there? you're breaking up...
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      seriously, i pay less than 1/3 of that and i get unlimited wireless data now. and i havent gone over my minutes since getting the phone. not because im a minute-miser mind you, but because i just dont use the phone part all that much now that ive got all
      • Re: (Score:2)


        Yeah, I was going to say - my Sidekick II gets unlimited data and 300 minutes + free weekends already for $50/month.

        And I could swear I heard a cingular commercial on the radio proclaiming unlimited minutes (nothing about data, though) for $50/month.

        ~Wx
    • And can I get unlimited data included with this plan?
      It depends how you define "unlimited". If you mean not billed per kilobyte but we'll cut you off if we think you've used too much bandwidth (say, over 1 GB) for the month in our exclusive opinion then
    • Re: (Score:2)

      buy small parcel of land, rezone, and plop tower on it...

      Most companies rent the land, a much much much more logical choice for many reasons. Granted not everyone wants a cell tower on their property so it does cost a decent amount to rent the land.
    • Re:up the quality (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Life2Short (593815) on Wednesday March 14 2007, @08:50AM (#18346457)
      I too live in a rural area with spotty reception.

      OK, I'm old, and when I was a kid I used to watch "Green Acres." One of the running gags was that by moving to the country this lawyer from New York had to go outside and climb a telephone pole to receive a call. I guess it seemed pretty outrageous at the time.

      40 years later I see people standing outside of buildings all the time, in all kinds of weather, trying to improve their mobile phone reception.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:2)

        I know people who send summaries of their email to their phones as text messages. It's EASY to exceed 65 / day that way. Stupid I know, but... Way back when, I used to use a Motorola SkyWriter two-way pager for this. Today it would make a LOT more sense t