New MacBook Dual Core 2 Benchmarks

ApolloX writes "New Macbook Pro Benchmarks are now available. From the article: 'Like the iMac before it, Apple's MacBook Pro underwent an upgrade highlighted by a chip swap — the Core Duo processor that used to power Apple's pro laptop is gone, replaced by the next-generation Core 2 Duo. And as with our iMac benchmarks, these updated Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro models show a modest performance gain when compared to older systems running on Core Duo chips with the same clock speeds.' As expected, the new 15-inch Intel Dual Core 2 (2.33Ghz/2GB RAM) is the new king of Apple portables, with results for the 17-inch model still pending."

New "MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo" Benchmarks

[voidptr (609)]

What's with the headline? It's "MacBook Pro", not MacBook. They're separate products. And it's "Core 2 Duo". Would it have been that hard to identify the correct product being reviewed?

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[quigonn (80360)]

Would it have been that hard to identify the correct product being reviewed?

You must be new here. :-)

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[gumbi west (610122)]

This is sort of a problem for Apple. the iBook / Powerbook had good name separation, "MacBook" and "MacBook Pro" were bad choices b/c everybody adds "pro" to everything these days to mean absolutely nothing. So you'd think you could drop it.

As far as the no proofing, it's supposed to be part of the charm of the site. I think it's like how people like soaps to look cheap and for the sets to fall over sometimes.

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[voidptr (609)]

No, what I'm saying is they reviewed the MPB C2D, not a MacBook that doesn't exist. The headline's just wrong.

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[Ziwcam (766621)]

As opposed to XPS 700, XPS 410, XPS 210, d4650y, m7690y, m7690e, V6000Z? Right...

Temperature

[tpengster (566422)]

I'm more interested in how hot these things run.. my old Core Duo MBP runs so hot I can't even use it on my lap, and the fan emits a really annoying loud, high-pitched whine. This computer is actually physically painful to use.

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[Sancho (17056)]

I've been reading that the new MBPs with C2D run up to 20 degrees F cooler. I can't speak for whether it's the processor or a change to the default fan speed that causes this.

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[Savage-Rabbit (308260)]

I'm more interested in how hot these things run.. my old Core Duo MBP runs so hot I can't even use it on my lap, and the fan emits a really annoying loud, high-pitched whine. This computer is actually physically painful to use.

Take it back to the shop and have the motherboard replaced. Since I had this done to my MBP it runs noticably cooler.

It's a Feature, Not a Bug

[Greyfox (87712)]

Who DOESN'T like a weenie roast?

Re:Temperature

[tji (74570)]

I didn't have a first-gen MBP, but I just bought the new Core 2 Duo version, the base system with 2.16GHz CPUs.

I have no heat issues with this machine. The bottom of it is warm to the touch, but certainly not hot to the point of being uncomfortable. I find that it runs cooler than my PowerBook G4 1.67GHz.

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[wavedeform (561378)]

I was worried about that, too. I just upgraded from a 1GHz PowerBook G4 to a 2.33 GHz MacBook Pro. The MBP doesn't seem to tun hotter than my G4 when used for general email/web surfing, at least. I haven't used it much for media creation and editing yet.

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[Mr_Matt (225037)]

You might be one of the lucky ones whose MBPs had too much thermal grease applied to the processor heat sink. Apple put the fan temperature sensors on the heat pipes leading from the processor - the excess in thermal grease actually insulates the heat pipes, keeping the fans off and the processor way too hot.

There's a couple of sites that demonstrate how to disassemble your MBP to get to the processor - reapply an appropriate amount of thermal paste, your heat pipes start working properly (and your fan sta

Yay! Now who would have thought this?

[the_humeister (922869)]

Faster chip brings faster performance!

What was benchmarked?

[laffer1 (701823)]

I was excited to see the headline. I look at the site and its just comparing several models to a baseline previous MacBook Pro. What is the point in that? I want to see real benchmarks like perhaps windows running on it vs a comparable "PC" laptop from say dell, toshiba or some other vendor. I'd also like to see a benchmark compared to desktop models like iMacs, Mac Pros, etc. To put it in perspective, maybe some benchmarks from G4/G5 models as well.

I want to know how apple compares to other vendors now that apples to apples comparisons are more fair. You could argue driver support if the mac loses, but its not like dell ships great drivers for their modified chipsets either. I have an iBook now and it would be nice to know how PC operating systems run on this thing. I now have a good reason to want to run BSD on one of these :)

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[Durandal64 (658649)]

I'm amazed that people don't know about the second virtual button on Apple's laptops with OS X. Hold both fingers on the track pad. Click. Boom, right-click. And to be honest, I think that it works better than actually having a second button. My thumb isn't very accurate, so sometimes, on a PC laptop, I hit the wrong button. With one, big button to hit, I never mistakenly right-click when I want to left-click. The second physical button works well on mice because you click right- and left-buttons with diffe

This was more than just a chip swap.

[SeaFox (739806)]

From the article: 'Like the iMac before it, Apple's MacBook Pro underwent an upgrade highlighted by a chip swap -- the Core Duo processor that used to power Apple's pro laptop is gone, replaced by the next-generation Core 2 Duo.

It also gained dual-layer Superdrives and Firewire 800 back, and comes with more RAM standard and higher maximum RAM than the previous model, which is more than you can say for the iMac upgrade.

Stupid Headline

[Nom du Keyboard (633989)]

New MacBook Dual Core 2 Benchmarks

This headline does more than suggest, it actually states, that the system under benchmark has two Core 2 processors. That would be a total of four processing cores spread over two chips, and quite a burden on the poor system's batteries.

WRONG! What it has is a Core 2 Duo dual-processor chip.

It's bad enough the the submitter can't properly write the headline. That the Slashdot editor let it through in this form deserves having him (or her) sent back to Remedial English, and not allowed near a keyboard until they pass it.

Running one right now

[melted (227442)]

2.33GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB HDD. It's scary fast, even in Aperture. After reading horror stories on the web I thought it'd run ridiculously hot. Not so, my friends. The bottom does get hot when you do something hardcore (LiveType realtime rendering or a hardcore Aperture session), but not as hot as to be unbearable. Overall, I'm very pleased with my purchase, and this is hands down the best laptop I've ever used.

My son is very pleased, too - he can't get enough of Photo Booth. :0)

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[by Anonymous Coward]

No you can't. Once you add enough upgrades to match the Apple, then the price is more than the Macbook. Look at all the stuff it has standard before you do the math.

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[alcmaeon (684971)]

macbooks are too expensive for me to buy one, if they ever come down in price that would be great.But right now you can buy a pc with the same config cheaper.

Really? I didn't know non-Apple branded PC's shipped with MacOS X. I'll have to check into this.

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[be-fan (61476)]

You can buy a PC with the same config cheaper, but not substantially cheaper. I can't speak for the MBP, but when I got my Macbook this summer, I did some looking around, and even if you ignore things like build-quality, most comparable x86 laptops were less than 10% cheaper. If you got a comparably small and sturdy machine, the price was actually substantially higher.

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[ElephanTS (624421)]

As someone that maintains Macbooks and other Mac laptops I'd say that the quality control isn't good. This week a 14-month old 17" G4 went down with a motherboard problem - it's essentially a write off due to the massive price of a new board. Happens all the time. All I say to people is make sure you buy the AppleCare extended warranty, it's expensive but in the majority of cases worth it. However I think this advice applies to most laptops not Apple in general. It's also why I don't bother owning one anymo

Re:Tired of this

[wbren (682133)]

1. Go to your Slashdot account preferences page
2. Click the "Homepage" link at the top of that page ( http://hardware.slashdot.org/users.pl?op=edithome [slashdot.org] )
3. Uncheck the Apple section

Hope that helps.

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[CrackedButter (646746)]

No matter how much you pay for a PC. You'll never get OSX. Its worth it for that alone. Your original point is irrelevant anyway since there isn't an exact equivalent PC when comparing one to a mac.

Re:4gb of ram?

[MBCook (132727)]

The chipset is only capable of addressing 32 bits or 4 gigs of memory. Many "64 bit" desktops are the same way. The problem is that while the chipset can see the full 4 gigs of ram, a portion of it (~768mb) is hidden by other address space (video card shadowing, PCI memory addresses, etc). The machine can hold 4 gigs of ram, you just won't be able to see it all. I have a friend with a Dell desktop with the same "problem".

Frankly I like Apple approach as opposed to what many others do ("Supprots 4+ GIGs* (* unable to see top 1/2 gig)").

The problem should go away when they stop using the current chipset (which was designed for the 32 bit Core) and move to the next chipset that was designed specifically for the Core 2 chips.