USB Batteries 248
An anonymous reader writes "Tired of paying for new batteries all the time? Tired of searching for the charger for your rechargeable batteries? Worry not, because these new AA batteries will recharge direct from your USB port! This is such a cool idea, that I cant believe that no one has done it before." At $24 each I would hate to lose or break them on a regular basis.
Yay! Yet another use for powered USB ports. (Score:2)
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Lame.
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And if someone plans on charging off a notebook running under battery power, do they really intend (or are they even able) to run the notebook for the 5 hours needed to recharge these?
This makes no sense at all, and are certainly nothing to be "excited about." So much for "trusted reviews."
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I carry a lot of crap when I travel. Laptop, laptop charger, spare laptop battery, cell phone, cell phone charger, camera, camera charger, MP3 player, you get the idea. Plugging all of that in a hotel room is a pain. I would gladly pay $10 extra for getting rid of some of that mess.
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A compact battery charger costs less and doubles as a case to keep a spare set of batteries in. You don't need to power up and leave your laptop on all night just to charge your flashlight batteries either.
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Hm... I think I've seen something like that somewhere
Unfortunately none of that stuff works properly... The camera is crap the MP3/cell player is inconvenient and they give you hard time on a plane if it's also a cell phone, etc.
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Integrating the cell and the charger in a single unit has some advantages.
Too slow (Score:2)
USB charging is pretty wasteful of power too. If you use a dedicated charger you can turn off that damn computer.
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This sounds like a cool invention, but I have to say that it does kinda seem like technology for technology's sake.
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I bought http://www.steves-digicams.com/nimh_batteries.html #lacrosse [steves-digicams.com]this charger from Lacross Technologies. It works great. For $50 I got 8 batteries (4 AA and 4 AAA). I have since bought many more, which i always have a great supply of.
IMHO, the USBattery seems like a decent idea, but one that will a. have to come down
Not so fast... (Score:5, Informative)
Let's break this down.
4 batteries - $6 at Walmart for off brand or $10 - $15 for 4 name brand rechargables.
Cheap AA/AAA USB Charger $8 from tiger direct. [tigerdirect.com]
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Better AA/AAA USB Charger $20 from tiger direct. [tigerdirect.com]
The cheapest route gives you 4 batteries, each with twice the mAH for $14 plus shipping. The most expensive route gives you the same thing for $30 plus shipping. Either way, buying a battery with only 1300 mAH nowadays is like buying a midsized car with a 50 hp engine.
Bottom line? For novelty reasons, these batteries look interesting and you do not need to carry an additional charger. But at around $16 US apiece they are expensive and WAY underpowered. Additionally, you need one USB slot for each. If you buy a regular USB charger and use standard rechargeable batteries, you can charge several (up to 4) with one USB slot and spend half the money.
Conclusion? It's a neat novelty backup backup. But it is way to expensive.
These are $24 apice, not $16? (Score:2)
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So this usb chargeable battery offering is : more price, less value
Btw. a schematics and parts to charge your "regular" NiMh batteries from the usb will cost you less t
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Hell I've charged non rechargable batteries in the charger and those charged up *ok*.
I just don't see any reason to use up 2 USB ports while draining my laptop's battery even faster then it's already d
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You're missing the point- plug in all yer USB batteries to yer Dell, and start a cahin reaction to destroy teh world!!
All joking aside, I don't see these as anything other than Another Useless USB Toy (tm) for all the clueless USB Toy Fanboi crowd.
Different approach... (Score:3, Interesting)
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£12.99 GBP = US$24.55
So they're US$12.28 each. Still like 8 times the price of normal NiMH batteries (4 for ~$6 = $1.50 ea.), but a bit better.
=Smidge=
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"In this house we obey the laws of Thermodynamics!"
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Re:You can't charge laptop batteries via USB. (Score:5, Insightful)
That sound you hear is the joke whooshing over your head. The Simpsons quote should've been a major tipoff.
Yes but you can't lose it (Score:2)
Bah. (Score:2)
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Even so, I wouldn't get these batteries. But still, its a good theory.
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For any computer with a cordless mouse/keyboard, this sounds like a god send. Have two sets, always keep one charged, and your battery troubles will be over forever*. Sounds practical as hell too me.
* albeit the lower end of forever.
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Ha! I can show you two dozen different standard DC power connectors here in my desk drawer...
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Of course, smaller capacity is directly because the battery itself is 2/3 the size of a normal AA to accomodate the USB charger.
Then again, getting regular NiMH AA's and rigging up your own small USB based trickle charger isn't that hard...
"An anonymous reader writes..." (Score:5, Insightful)
Thanks for another Slashvert.
More like $22 each (Score:5, Funny)
It's what those crazy Brits use as money.
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Micro$oft looks rubbish spelt as Micro£oft
Re:More like $22 each (Score:5, Funny)
that pretty much summarise my renting experience in London.
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Good Point (Score:3, Funny)
Obviously ££oyds of £ondon
Lets think... there's the £and Rover, although not really Brit owned now.
Virgin Air£ines?
Che£sea footba££ C£ub?
anything that has Eng£and in its name
How could anyone forget the Roya£ Fami£y?
GlaxoSmithK£ine is Brittish based and thats a good one, a drug company we know they on£y care about money
Uni£ever is also Brittish
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Yes - cut to the song; the routine's not working.
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Maybe so, but Microso£t isn't a bad alternative.
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Micro$o£t
Not really new... (Score:5, Informative)
not as useful as first thought (Score:5, Interesting)
So really, it's only useful for say, an MP3 player that takes a single AA battery. But then again, my brother's little samsung mp3 player has a built-in Li Ion battery and a USB plug built in that can flip up. And it's hardly bigger than a AA battery.
Hmmm
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It does look like a gimmick, but charging things from a USB port is not new. I have a USB 'phone charger which is great when I travel. It means I just need one power adaptor for my laptop and none for my 'phone (and since my laptop is a PowerBook, I don't even need an adaptor, I just take the US or EU plug with me).
You're right. So do I . My treo 600 charges nicely from USB. However, I just don't see the use of charging AA batteries. There are so many better (and cheaper) ways to get AA power.
Combine this with 15min quick charge (Score:2)
Re:Combine this with 15min quick charge (Score:5, Insightful)
For the longevity of your batteries (ie, the reason you pay about 4x as much for rechargeables in the first place), you really should use an intelligent trickle-charger (around C/10) with an automatic pre-charging discharge. I seriously suspect the battery manufacturers (such as Rayovac) came up with the idea of a 15-minute charge just to drastically shorten the life of your rechargeables. It has to seriously hurt their profitability that we can now use a single set of batteries that will last for five to ten years if properly maintained.
It amazes some of my friends (who, like you, use a 4C flash charger) that I have 5 year old NiMH batteries that, after several hundred charge cycles, not only still work, but still hold over 90% of their stated capacity. Well, now you know the secret. Stop abusing your batteries, and just let them charge overnight.
Keep the flash charger in the car for emergencies, but unless you absolutely need a battery now, don't use it.
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I don't recall which chemistry it is (NiMH or NiCAD), but IIRC, charging them fast is a good idea.
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Something about fast charges minimizing dendrite formation
(you know, the misplaced stuff that causes internal shorts in your batteries)
I could be wrong. I saw it in an article I found through Google while I was looking up something for a recent
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I hadn't heard of that for either NiMH or NiCADs, but it does limit the lifetime of Li-ion batteries.
However, those don't like rapid charging, either, as it GREATLY accelerates electrolyte breakdown... So you have a lose/lose situation there.
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You're overlooking the fact that if the batteries survive those 4 cycles, you've broken even and everything after that is gravy. I've got one of the Ray-O-Vac 15 minute chargers as well. The batteries have paid for themselves and then some, with no signs of slowing down. And when they
These will fail (Score:2)
I predict these will fail. Today, electronics that one would typically use rechargable batteries come with custom batteries and are self charging. (For example, my MP3 player, camera, and phones use a custom battery and have the charger build into the unit.) Other electronics, like remotes, last so long on a single pair of batteries that using rechargables is pointless.
Does anyone remember the rechargable ankalines that came out in the mid-90s? (I don't remember the brand name.) I used to use them in
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I believe you're thinking of the Rayovac Renewal, which is now discontinued. It looks like there are still some rechargeable alkalines [cetsolar.com] on the market though.
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lost charger (Score:2)
Even with this, VA employees will still be looking for the battery charger.
Um.... why? (Score:5, Interesting)
Nope, still not of any use... (Score:4, Informative)
"Uh, yeah, couldn't I just have used a regular battery that wouldn't be dead yet?"
You can have:
- an expensive, dead, 1300 mAh USB battery that you need to recharge on your laptop (good luck on your laptop battery not going dead first!)
- a cheap, half-full 2500 mAh regular rechargable battery that you don't need to recharge at all.
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Frankly, these batteries look seriously handy if you're travelling and you know you're going to have regular access to devices with a USB port -- which doesn't have to be a PC or laptop, how about a PS2? I wo
Enough for now... (Score:2)
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With your lack of capitalization for the units, I have to ask: do you mean milli-amp years or mega-amp years?
Useless junk. (Score:3, Insightful)
A battery charger is small, small, lightweight and can be has with dual voltage. Mine is 6 years old and weighs a few ounces - including cord and EU adapter.
If you really don't want to carry a charger you can buy a dozen high capacity rechargable AA's at the price of these - and simply carry them with you. (If you really would use that many you probably would carry a charger anyway).
This is an expensive answer to a question no one is asking.
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Umm some problems...and why this is stupid (Score:2)
If you have access to the power brick you have access to an outlet so why not charge them from one.
Charging from the laptop while on battery power would surely drain things probably quicker than the battery could fully charge up.
You can buy around a dozen or more regular rechargables for the price of one of these so whats the point. This is definately one of those "because we can" products like usb mitten warmers and
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Depends how many power bricks for each device an international traveller wants to carry (and whether or not they'll get confiscated at the airport).
A bit risky (Score:5, Interesting)
On a related note, the Motorola Razr cell phone's power connector is mini-USB, so it can charge off of your USB port as well.
Dan East
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I'm skeptical about the BIOS trick, actually...have to try that. In general, the phone won't charge from a normal USB supply unless it can enumerate. They must be doing something with the fifth pin to make the dumb chargers work, because it won't charge from a cigarette>USB adapter either.
That connector is used on a lot of Mot stuff, I think I can find some additional info.
Not all AAs are created equal (Score:2, Informative)
In the last couple years they've dropped rechargeables to 1.2V which means normal batteries are delivering 25% more power if the amps stay the same. I don't want 'em.
Re:Not all AAs are created equal (Score:4, Informative)
Anyway, alkalines are only 1.5V out of the box. When they're "dead", they're at around 0.6V, and it's a fairly linear decline over time. In fact, electronics made to run on alkalines are generally fine down to around 0.9V or so, since the decline is expected.
NiMHs and NiCads are ~1.2V after a charge, and stay there until just before they die, when they nosedive. This is why cameras recommend non-alkaline batteries--the flash actually requires that the voltage is somewhere around the maximum; alkaline batteries drop voltage so quickly that the flash only works a relatively small number of times.
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Um.... when was this? As far as I remember, rechargeable NiCDs, when they first appeared on the market, were always 1.2/1.25. Sorry - but I call bullshit.
Then 1.25V became the norm and my devices requiring six volts from regular batteries are only getting five. In the last couple years they've dropped rechargeables to 1.2V which means normal batteries are delivering 25% more power if the amps stay the same. I don't want 'em.
All rechargeab
It's about the chemistry (Score:5, Informative)
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Where I agree that it's rediculous that the voltage is different (breaking the standard?), there are places that rechargable AA batteries work well. A/V remotes, wireless computer devices like mouse / keyboard, and some childrens' toys. It's when you stack up six or more batteries that there is a problem. I've been using Energizer rechargable A
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rechargeable batteries rock (Score:2)
I use them in my 4AA bike lights, and in my digital camera. They've saved me hundreds of dollars.
Rayovac is a rockin' brand. They don't advertise, period. So they cost less than Duh-a-Cell or Enervizer, and in my experience they perform very well indeed.
NiCad rechargables sucked. Those haven'
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I own a couple dozen NiMH rechargable batteries from major vendors like Energizer, Rayovac, etc. They've all lasted a year or more, through dozens of recharges, used in my digital camera, kids toys, flashlights and TV remotes. I haven't lost a single battery in the last year.
In the same timefeame, I've gone through
WTF is the point of this? (Score:2)
Where I could just plug in a more conventional charger, instead of plugging it into my USB port of my computer. Its no harder to remember where that charger is than the one plugged into my USB port. Where is the benefit?
Y'know what would be more useful (Score:5, Interesting)
1300 maH? (Score:5, Informative)
You don't have to worry about charging on a USB port if your batteries don't die all of the time.
Cool idea, but no thanks... (Score:5, Insightful)
Mighty Mouse! (Score:2)
What if they integrated storage too? (Score:5, Interesting)
Charging your gadgets directly via the USB (Score:2, Insightful)
The USB port has 5V and one lithium-ion cell has a maximum of 4.15 volts, (So there's enough voltage difference to properly charge the lithium cell).
A few gadgets already does get charged when they anyway are connected to the PC, why not ALL of them?
I would be happy to save the cost for the regular charger, and find it very practi
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I have a 3rd-party USB cable for my Asus 716 Pocket PC that provides both power and a data connection, where the bundled cable only provides data and you need to pass it through an externally-powered cradle if you want to charge it. As such, I can give one reason:
The USB port doesn't supply enough power to charge the battery and run
No Windows and Linux drivers? (Score:2, Interesting)
One stupid LED as a status? It's already USB! Why not also a little icon indicating charge status, how much power has left... Even maybe intelligent software to even tell how many seconds of gameplay I'll have my Sega GameGear! Ah.. USB. It reminds me when I saw the first USB speakers, I was amazed of how quicly computer technology has gone beyond prediction.. . Witnessing speakers crash! At least Windows 95 OSR2 somewhat tried to continue after a blue screen.
Actually, it would be cool if mo
USB spec? (Score:3, Insightful)
Obviously, this thing doesn't meet any of the applicable specs, especially the specs that address power consumption when a device is not configured. I don't see a USB logo anywhere on their web site.
Use at your own risk.
USB recharging (Score:2)
Unless they're inserting some kind of Ipod-esqe "cradle" as an electron-laundering scheme.
Nothing new (Score:2)
I have to give this a big "so, what?" It's like sel
Whenever a see a post (Score:3, Funny)
USB-powered cities (Score:4, Funny)
Re:$12? Where is this from? (Score:4, Informative)
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Maybe someday when we all have solar panels on our house, we'll have USB power outlets right next to our 120V ones.
(I really hated the days of 100+ different power adapters with different voltage/current/connectors)
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I wish I had Mod points.
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My knowledge on this may be faulty though, but that's the experience I've had.
Overall, though, is quite nice, I've never fla