Updated OQO Model 01+ with USB 2.0 and More RAM 197
xanthines-R-yummy writes "OQO has announced the availability of the OQO Model 01+. The new model has more RAM and USB 2.0, which were probably the main deficiencies in Model 01." They now start just short of $2k but they still look very yummy.
Santa? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Besides... (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, duh! If you buy a desktop and a conventional PDA for $2000, YOU obviously don't need one of these things!
This seems more like a laptop--portable and fairly full-featured, without making any concessions on the interface or operating system. Sure, it's expensive, but it's brand new and doesn't have any competitors, yet, that I know of. So of course it's going to be pricey. Remember when PDAs first came out? We were paying $300+ for something with 8MB RAM and a black-and-white LCD.
And for the record, there IS a reason to buy one of these things: carrying a goddamned laptop around gets old, really quick! Unless you shell out for an ultraportable, you're lugging around several extra pounds of gear whenever you need to take it somewhere. But if you only take your PDA, you're sacrificing a lot of functionality, ESPECIALLY the full keyboard. On airplanes, too, using a full-size laptop in coach can be a real bitch.
Now, granted, I wouldn't buy one of these things with WinXP installed on it, but as soon as someone has it booting Linux... look out, bank balance!
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http://www.oqo.com/
Sure looks like a full keyboard to me... wait, checking for all the letters... Yep, pretty goddamn close to what's on my laptop right now.
And besides, even if you DO need to use an external keyboard (let's say you want to do some coding on the airplane), you can get small, comfortable USB keyboards that fold up smaller than a paperback book. More stuff, true, but still a hell of a lot smaller and lighter than a laptop.
Re:Besides... (Score:2)
Apparently not since the OQO website spec sheet specifically states:
Thumb keyboard with mouse buttons and TrackStik
So yes, one needs at least one of those roll up keyboards to do any serious amount of typing.
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these [icube.us]
Not quite as high in specs, but it's less than half the price.
I have a c860 with a 1 gb SD card and I've not had much desire for a laptop since getting it.
My main portable use is just e-mail, web and wireless network auditing, so the little c860 with pdaXrom [pdaxrom.org] works fine for me.
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Actually, I do remember when PDAs first came out. I even bought a second-generation Palm Pilot Personal (back when they were still "U.S. Robotics"). US$200, and it only had (has, actually -- I still use it) 512K of RAM. The original Palm Pilots only had 128K IIRC. Don't know where you got an 8MB model, maybe you were a little late to the party?
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Well I can beat that. Back in the mid-80s not only did I own a Psion Organiser I; I also worked for Psion programming their Organiser II for their corporate clients.
Cue Grognard telling us how he used to programme mainframes for the navy by toggling switches on the front of the machine ;-)
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-Nano.
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I think you mean, "It doesn't seem all that practical"? Certainly it's impressive and neat to have a full-blown computer in a tiny package, right? It's just not practical, but cutting-edge devices often aren't.
So, sure, for most people and in most circumstances, it will be more effective and cost efficient to buy a desktop+PDA combo. For now. G
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What's the difference between a cool link and a slashvertisement?
It's whether or not people think it's actually cool (eg. the same thing that makes it show up on Digg, and BoingBoing, and Engadget, etc etc). And this device is cool. CmdrTaco says he wants one. I would want one (if I earned $150k+). Apparently you didn't really RTFA, because it is quite cool (engadget has covered it hundreds [google.com]
Re:Besides... (Score:2)
Exactly.
They linked directly to the website because the press release is there. If they waited until a review is found then linked to that everyone would be harping about how they saw it at xyz site two days ago and links to the press release would get karma whores +5 informative (it probably will anyway).
Personally, I thin
Re:Besides... (Score:5, Insightful)
I can understand that if you don't think it's cool, that your initial impression might be that this is a Slashvertisement. But I think it's established that it has somewhat wide appeal (not necessarily practical appeal, I don't know how many of these people linking to it are actually forking over the $2000 for one, but they still like to drool). At the very least, it's unlikely that Taco had to receive money to post this.
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individual directorsdon't have THAT much influence (Score:2)
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I work in a hospital and yes, they need that power. Clinical Info Software can require a heck of a processor for some things. Also, the 100% availability is a very attractive prospect for bedside documentation, such as being able to point out EXACTLY when medication was given, and having an immediate notification to stop if you are about to administer the wrong drug.
Of course, at $19
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you're out in the field several buildings from your desk, how do you look up the remedy ticket to make sure you're in the right room when your shop has gone paperless? right now you're stuck finding a desktop or opening up a clunky laptop. you can't use a palm sized device because the screen size/resolution can't handle displaying something like a remedy ticket. there are a zillion and one more situations like this.
Re:Besides... (Score:2)
Your illustration has nothing to do with healthcare -- that's just the place where you happened to see the situation. It could happen in any largish work environment.
Furthermore, this is not a problem that requires a full-blown palmtop computer. Viewing a Remedy ticket requires very little in the ways of computing grunt. It does require a larger screen resolution than you're going to find on most handhelds.
If the users of a ticket system (like Remedy) ar
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i don't care what pda or system you buy. if you need to see anything more then one or two lines a pda's display isn't going to cut it. the oqo is not cut out for doing large sums of heavy computation. i suggest you buy one and try it out before
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Any Details On Battery Life? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Any Details On Battery Life? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Any Details On Battery Life? (Score:2)
The battery isn't inside the thing; it's the back of it. Look at the closeup pics of the side angle view on the OQO site. See the line up and down along the back? That's the seam for the battery module.
Re:Any Details On Battery Life? (Score:2)
Bad news: you'll probably never get the full advertised 3 hours out of it, and end up recharging or swapping batteries every 1.5 to 2 hours.
I speculate this is the approximate average battery range for the Model 01+ because that is about what I get with my Model 01 that I purchased last year, and not very much has changed that I would expect to affect battery drain.
I usually use my Oqo for wireless web browsing (when I don't feel like lugging the laptop aroun
Great, I've got to have one! (Score:5, Insightful)
* little = completely missing any and all relevant information. didn't want to waste time doing a real writeup, eh?
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:4, Insightful)
Would it have been that hard to call it an "Itty Bitty Computer" in the writeup, instead of linking to a slashdotted site and assuming that everybody knows all about it?
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:2)
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:2)
And how many additional ad impression would that have generated?
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:2)
Re:Great, I've got to have one! (Score:2)
Better touch screen (not mentioned how so)
30 GB HD
512MB RAM standard
USB 2.0 and Firewire
Universal Power Supply (AC, Airline and Car)
Nice but... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Nice but... (Score:3, Informative)
Rule #1: Chances are, liunx or bsd will run on [insert name]
Rule #2: Chances are, google will find information regarding rule #1.
Like here [tuxmobil.org], 2nd google result.
What "hack?" (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Nice but... (Score:4, Informative)
question
Can the OQO model 01 run Linux?
answer
The OQO model 01 is a standard x86 PC and can run Linux. However, you will have to install and support it on your own.
OQO does not currently have any plans to offer a Linux-based product, nor does it provide technical support for a model 01 running Linux.
One recent reviewer has installed Linux, and you might find his writeup (10/13/04) helpful: http://www.handtops.com/show/news/55 [handtops.com]
Another handtops.com poster has published a through "tutorial" of a Linux install: http://www.handtops.com/forum/752/0//OQO_Linux_In
Video (Score:2, Interesting)
I was wondering how this works if you need more than the 800x480 resolution built-in monitor. However, I checked the specs and you can get video out of up to 1280x1024 VGA. It would be nice if it had DVI out.
a really cute laptop (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:a really cute laptop (Score:5, Informative)
If you're looking at the OQO, it's not because today's laptops are sufficient. You can actually hold that thing in your hands instead of balancing it precariously on your lap.
I'm not an OQO fanboy or anything, but the main reason I have a TabletPC right now is that I can't stand using a laptop unfolded on my lap. With a TabletPC, you can actually use it while standing up and walking around. (This is great if you're taking inventory, for example...) This thing is not only more portable than a TPC, but it's obviously more typist friendly.
Lots of you may be shaking your head due to sticker shock or whatever, but this thing would be a god send to a lot of business professionals that need mobility. Heck, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the company I last worked for bought two of these.
Re:a really cute laptop (Score:2)
An OQO would have been incredibly handy, but $1700 for a serial console is steep, especially if you have to factor in the cost of adminning Windows on it. Maybe when they support linux wholeheartedly so I'm not stuck with any half-supported hardware.
Re:Insightful? NOT! (Score:2)
Right, but I don't think that is why the mods put it up to +5 "Insightful".
This is obviously for those who are more sensitive to size and portability than $$ or outright power.
Sure, but why make a tradeoff if the features do not justify the ~$2K pricetag? The only advantage this unit has over a PDA costing a quarter of the price is the screen size.
For me, VGA resolution on a 4 inch screen does not justify $1.5 in additional cost.
If y
Re:Insightful? NOT! (Score:2)
I think a buck-fiddy is a GREAT price for a 4" VGA screen! Did you mean $1.5k?
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I agree with everything you have written here, but I was commenting on how the GP got to +5 "Interesting" (with a few personal oberservations along the way). The mod system on this forum sucks, but it works better than most other forums, so what can you do?
So again, how was the parent posters comment in the slightest "in
Pretty cool (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course, the downside is that it's kind of pricey. But, given what else is out there, it seems to sit nicely among its peers -- it costs more, but it seems to offer a lot more as well.
I have a small portable video device, an Archos 420, and while I got it pretty much just for the portable video and photo abilities, I do know it would be nice to hop on the internet for various reasons without having to stow my laptop -- after all, that's why I got the small portable video thing in the first place.
Something like this that not only can play video, but also surf the web and do pretty much anything a decent computer can do is great for portability. But kudos to the company for an ultra-small, high-functionality computer that doesn't skimp.
Re:Pretty cool (Score:2)
As I said in my post, I've got an AV420 which has a 20 gig drive and plays divx, xvid, and other formats. I can easily fit about 15 or more movies on the thing -- more if I really want to shrink 'em down. The screen is small enough that I can live with the lesser quality, which means that smaller file sizes are actually something
The original version did have shortcomings. (Score:5, Informative)
Also, while its all-in-one cable was nice for travel purposes (minimizing what you have to carry) it was cumbersome on the desktop. We would have rather seen a nice docking station/cradle instead of the kludgy "friction-hold" stand/all-on-one cable combination.
It is certainly a stunning and elegant device, but it still needs some improvements here and there.
Re:The original version did have shortcomings. (Score:5, Informative)
The cable is still terrible, though.
Re:The original version did have shortcomings. (Score:2, Interesting)
Does It Run Linux? (tm) (Score:5, Informative)
No, seriously. I've commented to them and asked a number of times whether it supports Linux; and until it does, I will stick with my Zaurus [dynamism.com]. (Actually I only have a C860, no 4GB microdrive or whatever, but I don't come close to needing more than the gigs of SD I have.)
Linux is not just a gee whiz thing in the palm. Having all your full-blown apps in your palm [pdaxrom.org] is far, far more useful than any stripped-down PDA apps could be. Firefox? Check. Thunderbird? Check. GIMP? Check. Nethack? Doom? ScummVM? Vim? Emacs? GCC? Perl? Python? Ruby? Checkcheckcheckcheck...
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Re:RTFWS (Score:2)
You misunderstand. I've known about the OQO and the fact it runs XP since it was first announced. I don't want XP.
Also, with even only 512MB of RAM on the latest model, with XP chewing through a lot of that, I'm not going to be running a whole lot. And I'm going to be paying for "the most popular office suite on the planet". And t
Mod parent up (yes, it does support linux) (Score:2)
Not to troll, but ... (Score:3, Insightful)
(This is a serious question. I'm curious to know)
Now, don't misunderstand me. Those machines look amazing, and I would love to get my hands on one. But, apart from the initial 5-minute infatuation, I think I would simply place it in a drawer, where I would eventually forget that it ever existed. But, maybe that's just me.
Re:Not to troll, but ... (Score:2)
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I think that's the problem that many here on /. have with this device, it's NOT for the average /. reader. It's a niche product, that will mainly attract those with very specific needs. It could be very useful as a tool to deliver vertical apps more simply (e.g. medical, military, etc). It's not meant to replace laptops.
I feel you are correct, it is not meant to be a one-size-fits-all kind of tool. The limitations/advantages of using such a
stupid Slashcode Subject requirement (Score:2)
Now I just hope I can buy one.
WTF is an OQO? (Score:2)
Re:WTF is an OQO? (Score:2)
OQO missed the curve (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:OQO missed the curve (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not as optimistic. There's a rather strong niche they could chase after. Those executives with a little too much spending power who are sick of lugging their laptop around the country. You have to understand that it's not just physical size, form factor makes a big difference in the use of these machines. It is very difficult, for example, to use a lap
Re:OQO missed the curve (Score:2)
Finally... my NDA doesn't have to stop me... (Score:5, Informative)
Engadget also covered this and mentioned the Model 02 that they hope to see soon. My NDA bars me from discussing this, but since Engadget spilled the beans, let's just say that I was told there'd be an "upgraded Model 01" before the end of the year and a newer Model 02 out before the end of quarter 2 next year. The Model 02 should have some significant updates including *possibly* having a different CPU instead of the Transmeta among other things. Considering the Model 01+ actually happened, I can only hope the Model 02 will be forthcoming as well.
I for one didn't get the Model 01 simply because I steer clear of the first generation of new devices like this. The unit I demo'd confirmed why I didn't buy one. The upgraded 01+ looks appealing, but I'll probably hold out for the Model 02 sometime next year. But once I get it, I'll be a happy man... I'll have a Treo 650 (Palm-based, not a Winblows version) in one pocket and my OQO in the other.
http://blog.mobileoptimized.com/ [mobileoptimized.com]
http://mobileoptimized.com/ [mobileoptimized.com]
Re:Finally... my NDA doesn't have to stop me... (Score:2, Informative)
As for you and your NDA. I'm sure this was for a 01 and not the 01+ the 01+ testers was a very short list.
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Re:Finally... my NDA doesn't have to stop me... (Score:2)
The site wasn't built to look good in a full browser. Its not xhtml or anything else. In fact, it doesn't use any CSS at all. It was built to render quickly and well on mobile devices, not desktops. Perhaps I'll update it in the future, however I'll need to learn a lot more about web programming before I do and for now I have plenty of other stuff to do. Your opinions are duly noted.
Re:Finally... my NDA doesn't have to stop me... (Score:2)
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000847060621/ [engadget.com]
Before mine were, and I simply restated what Engadget said... that they've been looking forward to this and they're looking forward to yet another device. I'm looking forward to one to. Details, however, neither Engadget nor myself gave...
Re:Finally... my NDA doesn't have to stop me... (Score:2)
Quote:
"OQO announced a long overdue update to their Model 01 ultrapersonal computer earlier today. As its name suggests, the new model 01+ isn't the Model 02 we've been waiting for (that's due out next year we hear) , but it is a solid upgrade and comes with 512MB of RAM, a 30GB hard drive, USB 2.0, a 1GHz processor, an internal speaker, and a 5-inch, 800 x 480 LCD screen. The Model 01+ we've been playing with definitely feels like a significant imp
Re:Finally... my NDA doesn't have to stop me... (Score:2)
oqo: switching from transmeta processors to (intel / amd)
treo: switching from palm OS to windows (pocket pc / mobile / whatever it is)
personally, I'm thinking I might grab an unbranded 650 once they're fairly cheap. Palm OS was always quite nice, and the treo seems like a good product - just need to look into build quality - and whether there are any contenders with similar / better products if/when I go to buy.
For that price... (Score:4, Insightful)
No, I don't own one, and I don't work for Sony.
Need optical quantum PDAs! (Score:5, Funny)
quit complaining. (Score:2, Insightful)
Is there a middle-of-the-road? (Score:2)
Are there any PC makers that are a good system with the form factor of the Mac Mini? I'd love
Mini Laptop (Score:3, Insightful)
#1 Rectangular landscape screen about 4" x 8" in size, with a keyboard about the same size so the Mini Laptop can be snapped shut into a compact case no bigger than a 6" x 9" 300-page hardcover book.
#2 Runs full Windows, or Apple, or Linux operation system.
#3 Priced under $1,000.
Then perhaps I'll consider buying one.
OQO or Sony.... (Score:2)
Linux will run on it... (Score:2, Informative)
Linux Devices Review [linuxdevices.com]
Tuxmobil [tuxmobil.org] list of successful installs
and
Handtops [handtops.com] guide to installing Debian
Note:
It is also possible to make it a dual boot (of course!), just in case you actually wanted XP.
The OQO is agonizingly close to wicked cool... (Score:2)
And yeah, a Linux/OpenOffice version of this would be pretty slick. It'd cut their licensing costs, too.
Dangit (Score:2)
I've been Eying an OQO for a while...need Verizon (Score:2)
1) Offer a version with a 100gig drive
2) Offer it with a CDMA phone module for Verizon incorporated in it so that I can use it to browse on Verizon's broadband cell service.
And you have a deal...as I would feel at that point that I have true mobility and adequate storage.
Re:I've been Eying an OQO for a while...need Veriz (Score:2)
3. Compact Flash/Micro-drive port...so I can read files off my digital camera's memory card.
4. A built in camera to go with the mic, and allow for video and audio transmissions.
Compaq TC1100 (Score:2)
I like the idea of a removeable keyboard for a tablet. It just adds weight that you don't use very often.
Incidentally, the discontinued Compaq TC1000 used a Transmeta Crusoe processor as well. Wonder why they switched..
Just Ordered A Couple (Score:2)
We are stuck in a bad position with PDA's (PPC and Zaurus).
The problem is we have a mobile workforce that needs a handheld form factor, with fairly complex (in house built) applications. Tablets are too big. The device has to have the option of "being holstered" to allow for the workforce to do more tradional gets your hands dirty type of work between data collection sessions
The PPC memory base is about 64 meg split between storage and memory. Fair
Re:not small enough (Score:3, Informative)
Re:RAM?? (Score:2, Funny)
640K ought to be enough for anybody.
Re:Battery life was the problem, still is (Score:2)