Optimus Keyboard With OLED Display Keys 540
Koskun writes "What appears to be a Russian design company has on their website a keyboard in which the keys are using OLED to display what function the keys represent. The product is Art. Lebedev Studio's Optimus Keyboard. The uses of this could be amazing. They have pictures of layouts for Photoshop and Quake, as well as a QWERTY and Russian. Here's hoping that this will make it to a production model and not just a design model."
Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not even a "design model". It's a "rendered model". Sweet concept. You'd spend a bloody fortune on 116 individual color OLED displays - in several sizes - and all the circuitry, interfacing, and drivers to run them. I see that they are Macintosh fans, though.
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:5, Insightful)
These guys are digital artists
It's a really neat idea, and one that may even some day be created. I'd imagine that it would be prohibitively expensive to do today though.
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:5, Interesting)
At any rate, I'm pleased to see people catching on that the keyboard isn't real, especially after the 1000 post argument a few days ago over a joke about executing virus writers...
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:2)
I see that they are Macintosh fans, though.
Yes, but I'll try not to hold it against them. It's a really nice looking design concept.
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually I just thought of another idea, why not use the keyboard as a small console display as well. This could be used as a portable console in administering and fixing rack-mounted servers. The keyboard can have a small screen that will show about 10-20 lines of a terminal and also the keys would dynamically change to reflect various connection and management functions. For example after pressing "F1" the layout of the keyboard changes and now the keys to reflect a new submenu. If the key is not pressed but just slightly touched the console will display a short help message.
This would be one expensive keyboard but people who have the money to blow might be interested...
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:3, Insightful)
And suddenly you are well on your way to an early version of the LCARS [lcars-terminal.net] interface ;)
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price- But "Novel Idea"??? (Score:3, Informative)
We'v
e-Ink (Score:5, Insightful)
Good idea, really? (Score:3, Insightful)
Not terribly practical, though, even if they put it into production.
How many times did you look at your keyboard while you typed your post, really? In the middle of an intense FPS shootout, do you really need to know which key you configured to switch from the rocket launcher to grenades? Do you really have to check the keyboard shortcut for "Copy" in your text editor of choice?
No, me neither.
This is a fun idea, sure, and might have some genuine use in a few niches, but I doubt it'
Re:Good idea, really? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Good idea, really? (Score:4, Insightful)
Not everyone uses the Roman Alphanumerics system. Arabic and Asian languages come to mind.
Plus, it would be cool to see what keys are mapped in games like the old school MechWarrior where you had to use pretty much every key.
Re:Good idea, really? (Score:4, Insightful)
Ask Logitech and Microsoft. They seem to think that the F-keys are a playground. Thus, odd-shaped F-keys, tiny F-keys, and the ever-dreaded F-Lock, which leaves unsuspecting users wondering why F7 didn't send "Ready!" over the team channel.
They think users are so stupid and/or lazy, that they need a button on the keyboard to launch Excel, regardless of the number of start menu/quick launch/desktop shortcuts Office places on install. Meanwhile, those of us with 1/16 of a clue are left double-checking the F-Lock LED all the time, because we'd rather get into the BIOS setup than try to launch Outlook Express before the bloody boot loader is read off the hard drive!
Can you tell this is a pet peeve? My pre-F-Lock Logitech keyboard is becoming more precious by the minute. I'll be damned if I let these marketing-addled fools turn my Step Into Function debugger key into a PowerPoint launcher.
Re:Good idea, really? (Score:4, Interesting)
Hell, the computer labs in school could use this for French, Spanish and other language labs. You know how hard it is to write a French paper without easy access to a cedilla or other diacritic marks?
Re:Good idea, really? (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing like thinking completely within the box. Free your mind, my friend.
How about an application that changes your keyboard functions as you proceed through steps? For instance, using an IDE, different key functions would show when I'm editing or debugging.
What if you had toggle keys that, when pressed, the keyboard would show you a visual indication of a completely different set of key-functions? So your keyboard is in its normal state most of the time, but gives you alternate setups as you request them.
What if in games, when you get shot, your keyboard pulses red. When you swim, your keyboard looks like water, with bubbles floating past. Keys show pictures of the weapons they would switch you to, and how much ammo they hold. Keys show the spells they would cast.
What if applications and desktops could now eliminate widgets because a key can be set to represent them as needed? No more row of buttons at the top of every web browser, word processor, and email client. Perhaps they could add a row of keys along the top of the keyboard to replace the window taskbar. These buttons would show your apps, and you could press them to minimize windows, restore them, or bring them to the front.
Or, we could just keep thinking in the box, poo-pooing ideas, and leave the innovation to others.
Re:Good idea, really? (Score:3, Interesting)
Keyboards are powerful as hell if you know how to use them, but most people don't have the time to learn everything their applications can do. If something like this caught on and became prevelant enough for all applications to include a keyboard configuration, it could really make the full use of keyboard shortcuts available to more people and dramatically increase their productivity. People who would never dream of reading the documentation would notice what their keys turned in
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:5, Interesting)
Plus, you can operate OLED in "lit" mode or plain LCD mode, giving you functionality in a wide range of ambient light situations.
Let's go into production, damn it!
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:4, Funny)
But it'd require a harness.
Re:Good Idea, Bad Price (Score:3, Insightful)
Tactile feel is everything. That's why I insist on spending extra on old-fashioned clicky keyboards. A laptop keyboard alone is enough to have my fingers hurting after just a couple hours of typing. I can do 12 hours straight on my Unicomp Customizer 101 -- the buckling-spring recoil is much better for your fingers, and actually increases the speed you type. Type on a completely flat surface for a couple hours a day, and you'll develop RSI faster than you can say
Optimus Keyboard? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Optimus Keyboard? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Optimus Keyboard? (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder if it autobotically transforms the keyboard for whatever application is active.
Re:Optimus Keyboard? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Optimus Keyboard? (Score:2, Funny)
Let's sing a little song (Score:3, Funny)
More than meets the eye.
Qwertybots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of...
The Dvorakons.
The Transkeyboards...
Keyboards in disguise.
The Transkeyboards...
More than meets the eye.
The Transkeyboards.
Re:Optimus Keyboard? (Score:3, Funny)
Impressive board (Score:2)
In any case, the keys don't look like they are OLED. They look just like regular backlit LCD (maybe LED backlit). Any OLED experts want to chime in on this?
very fucking cool! (Score:2)
a couple of questions before buying (Score:2, Interesting)
Wow! Looked at the pictures, very attractive!
So, eye-candy aside:
Re:a couple of questions before buying (Score:4, Interesting)
All quiet keyboards I've ever had always turned out to be utter crap. Right now, I'm banging away on a IBM Modem M keyboard [scoutingaround.com] that is still doing fine after years of typing (obviously) but also coffee spilling (hot and cold), heavy banging, hurling across the room, and sitting on. Some of the heavily used keys are so worn out that the plastic surface feels smooth and the etching has gone, but it's still doing fine. These things sure were made to last.
I've long since forgotten about the incredible racket noises it makes. My cat loves the feel and clicks when he stretches on it though, apparently.
Re:a couple of questions before buying (Score:3, Interesting)
The BBC Micro [heydon.org] had injection moulded keys with the glyphs running right through the key. After ten years the keys were smooth but still as legible as the day it was bought. A lovely keyboard.
Re:a couple of questions before buying (Score:5, Funny)
No. After all, the whole point of a super-expensive keyboard with keys that can dynamically change their labels is to hardwire their function in. It was just cheaper to use an OLED display than to silkscreen them on.
You even rip off the MS menu keys on your work PC? Just
Re:a couple of questions before buying (Score:3, Interesting)
I gte the distinct impression that since the keys are displ
Re:a couple of questions before buying (Score:3, Interesting)
Get these into our highschools NOW! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Get these into our highschools NOW! (Score:2)
The advent of the $500 keyboard (Score:2)
I'll take my $15 USB keyboard thank you - although I'm starting to wish I had a better ergonomic alternative!
Virtual Keyboards == LCARS? (Score:5, Interesting)
However, soon enough, as with other inventions, it just may be that we get a glass panel in front of us, and the display/input conforms to the user and his/her function, instead of the other way around.
Re:Virtual Keyboards == LCARS? (Score:2)
I think using a touchscreen as a primary interface for extended periods of time would be really uncomfortable.
Most of the ways we've come up with to physically interact with electronic and mechanical systems have some element of movement, and I think there's a reason for that. I'm imagining my fingertips g
Re:Virtual Keyboards == LCARS? (Score:2)
Re:Virtual Keyboards == LCARS? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Virtual Keyboards == LCARS? (Score:3, Funny)
Licensing/Implications? (Score:3, Insightful)
But seriously this technology could have huge implications for the future of peripheral manufacturing (on the high-end at least) purely because you can have it as QWERTY, AZERTY, DVORAK or any other english, arabic, cyrillic, sanscrit, klingon or other layout!
For the cheapskates there's always Das Keyboard! [thinkgeek.com]
Re:Licensing/Implications? (Score:3, Informative)
Das Keyboard (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, it isn't exactly cheap, but it is actually really nice. My keyboard at work had one too many coffees spilled on it, so I asked for Das Keyboard for the replacement. I was anticipating a little adjustment period, but there really wasn't any. It takes zero extra effort to type -- my fingers apparently know where all the keys are -- and the weighting and feel of the keys is excellent. The only problem I have is when I'm working on something else and want
FlickerKey (Score:2, Funny)
Viruses will have a field day! (Score:5, Funny)
New type of Trojan (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Viruses will have a field day! (Score:2)
Goatse keyboard virus effect on the cheap! --> look carefully at the three adjacent I, O and P keys, squint a bit, and you can just about see the hands of the goatse guy stretching the, erhm, "O".
geez... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:geez... (Score:2)
How can a Brit get one of these? (Score:2)
Re:How can a Brit get one of these? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How can a Brit get one of these? (Score:2)
you sure you're a Brit? (Score:2)
Neither has Google. Is this some sort of sophisticated troll?
Comment + mirror (Score:5, Interesting)
help but wonder just how much a keyboard like this would cost?
Also, OLED's have a short life. 1-2 years.
Mirror here [networkmirror.com]
Re:Comment + mirror (Score:3, Informative)
OLED + HHK (Score:2)
I can't imagine... (Score:3, Insightful)
That said... If they build these and they have good action, I'll drop $500 on one.
International users and public terminals (Score:4, Interesting)
Although the price might render this idea problematic...
Lottsa uses for this (Score:5, Interesting)
Not to mention that I'm a shortcut junkie, and a visual kinda guy... This has "productivity increase" written all over it!
But the bad news is that the keyboard appears to be just a prototype at this point. Hopefully demand will quickly bring it to market soon! (preferably at less than $200 - It looks kinda expensive). There's a rather good thread on it over at digg, from earlier today.
Would be great if the OS... (Score:2, Interesting)
I would gladly pay (Score:2)
My need is to be able to see the keys when I type with a foreign keytable. My keyboard is US qwerty, but whenever I type in French or German, since I learned to write these languages using native keytables, I have to switch to azerty or qwertz, which is mostly fine with the US keyboard since I don't look at the keys, but
Re:I would gladly pay (Score:2)
Re:I would gladly pay (Score:2)
I did try to have several keyboards connected, but it turns out it's not so great: I could either:
- daisy-chain keyboards on the PS/2 connectors, which doesn't work well because (1) they draw too much current and (2) all keyboards receive the PC codes, while only one is concerned by them, and it messes up the other keyboards' internal states
- use
I want one of these NOW! (Score:3, Insightful)
I didnt see anything about purchase information.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Already been done - sort of. (Score:2)
Prefer normal one (Score:2, Insightful)
Woo-Hoo! (Score:5, Funny)
neat, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
Still, until OLEDs are in mass (*MASS*) production, I dont see producing a keyboard like this for a reasonable price for some time yet.
For all the people thinking "OH NO! this would be way to confusing! Bad, bad idea for UI design..".. what's the problem? We have windows full of icons now. What's the difference in putting some icons onto a keyboard? With something like photoshop I could see this being a real time saver. And I bet you will start to use and remember keyboard shortcuts much more often with this, since you only need to look, where now you have to hunt around and find out what the shortcut is..
that's good news (Score:4, Funny)
Yes, every key would change... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yes, every key would change... (Score:4, Funny)
Tech Support: Hello, how may I help you?
Customer: Hi, it says to press the 'Any' key, but I see 104 'Any' keys... which one do I press?
Tech Support: *blam*
Oooohhhh (Score:2)
Hmmm... well... (Score:2, Interesting)
Keyboard design needed something like this for a long time now, but will it ever become a real market product?
"Patents pending"? (Score:3, Insightful)
I sure hope the patent applies only to high-resolution or color displays inside the keyboard, as many Slashdot users have "published" (in patent jargon) a description of a reconfigurable keyboard with a small (e.g. 8x8 pixel) monochrome LCD under each key.
Re:"Patents pending"? (Score:2)
Applications beyond computing (Score:3, Interesting)
Why? You give it the music, and it can teach you to play a specific piece of music. Just put your hands on the glowing keys, and ta-da!
Re:Applications beyond computing (Score:4, Interesting)
OLED? (Score:5, Interesting)
If they get these out on the market (using e-paper tech) for under $300 CAN I would buy one asap.
Re:OLED? (Score:3, Funny)
Now there's a real-world problem.
Tech Support: Welcome to Bombay Computer Support, how may I help you?
Consumer: When I turn on my computer, it says 'BIOS ERROR, Press F1 to configure'.
TS: What happens when you press the F1 key?
Con: I don't have an F1 key! My keyboard is blank!
TS: Tell your roommate to give you back your key caps.
Con: ?!?
Optimus Humor (Score:2)
Here's one: Oscillating 1337 keymap
My concerns (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm a dedicated Linux user and I think that the complexity of the drivers required for a keyboard like this might mean that a Linux driver doesn't appear right away (I mean, what are the chances of them releasing one, and we all know how long it takes for community-started open-source drivers to become stable, although they're quicker now than ever). Also, that driver had better not put any load on my CPU or memory. I have better things to do with those.
That said, when an open-source driver for it does emerge, you know it'll do all sorts of cool stuff. For those of us who don't need to look at the keys anyway, it could be programmed to show movies while I'm typing instead.
WoW - need one of these in Azeroth! (Score:2, Interesting)
I'd definitely pay for this keyboard, even if it were $200+
Won't someone please think of the children? (Score:4, Insightful)
This keyboard combines the two, so now we've got function keys across the top and (different ones) down the left, plus a numeric keypad that is completely redundant with other number and arrow keys.
Where will it end? Will we someday be pair programming with both programmers working the keyboard and telling each other which keys to hit? Will fights break out over who gets to press 'Y' and 'B'?
I'm sure there are children whose arms won't reach both ends of this thing! Won't someone please think of the children?
Shades of Gattaca (Score:2)
I predict that they will breed programmers with six or more fingers on each hand, and only they will be able to properly use future keyboards.
~Philly
Doable... (Score:2)
Hrm... how cool would it be to have peoples' keyboards unexpectedly start spelling "All your bases are..." throughout the company...
So much for touch typing (without looking) (Score:2, Funny)
wonder what the 'feel' is like? that matters.
have to admit, the displays are pretty cool looking, but I'd sure hate to think what happens to it when you spill your coffee into it... ;-)
Useless (Score:3, Insightful)
Also, if you need to look down to see what key does what in an FPS game (Quake (III?) is depicted) you're already dead.
Re:Useless (Score:5, Insightful)
When I'm using a new program, I'd love for my keyboard to show me what keys do what. Hold down shift and a new set of functions pop up on the keyboard. Other modifiers and you get more.
Touch typing is useless when you don't know that pressing Ctrl+Shift+Space will do what you're trying to find in Tools->More->Neat->Macro->Experimental->Do not touch.
Or are you just somehow magically able to know just what each and every key combination does in a program you've never used before?
...and the downside. (Score:3, Funny)
Or, visit a page with a banner, and watch the whole "click the monkey" or "Shoot the duck" bannergame display in your function key row, begging you to hit the right key to win that iPod.
Us DIY people have been doing this for years!! (Score:3, Funny)
It costs a fortune changing all those light bulbs though, but it keeps your fingers warm.
OLED prices (Score:5, Insightful)
If it's feasible to integrate the OLED and the display driver using all organic semiconductors, maybe this isn't as expensive an idea as people think. The first screens don't necessarily have to have super fast refresh rates.
After all, most of the tiny screens are identical, and my best guess is that OLED production costs go as the area of the screen, which isn't really that large in this case. If one manages to combine the push signal, display signal and the OLED power in two wires, the wiring wouldn't be much more complex than a standard keyboard.
Re:Sorry, poster, editor, and everyone else... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Dammit, not again! (Score:2)
Re:Do they have a patent for this? (Score:2)