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Want a PC With 192 GB of RAM?
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timothy
on Thu Mar 26, 2009 01:00 PM
from the yes-please dept.
from the yes-please dept.
ericatcw writes "Do you love the smooth, silky performance of a multi-core PC loaded to the gills with the fastest RAM? Take a look at Dell's new Precision T7500 desktop. According to Computerworld, the T7500 will come with 12 memory slots that can accommodate 16 GB of PC-106000 (1333 MHz) DDR3 RAM for a total of 192 GB. Dell's not the only one — Lenovo, Cisco (with blade servers reportedly up to 384 GB in memory) and Apple are all bringing out computers that leverage Intel's new Nehalem architecture to enable unprecedented amounts of RAM. But beware! Despite the depressed DRAM market, loading up on memory could see the cost of RAM eclipse the cost of the rest of your PC by 20-fold or more."
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This shall do (Score:3, Funny)
to run Vista. Finally h/w is catching up!!
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Still......could it run Crysis on Vista?
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I bought a medium range computer a year and a half ago and it runs Vista as fast as XP.
Re:This shall do (Score:5, Funny)
Why are people still modding these comments as funny?
Linux Zealots are the ones doing the modding. To them, comments like these are not only funny, but provide a kind of sexual release somewhat similar to viewing a nude photo of Deanna Troi.
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Re:This shall do (Score:5, Funny)
To them, comments like these are not only funny, but provide a kind of sexual release somewhat similar to viewing a nude photo of Deanna Troi.
OMG! Where???
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Ask and ye shall find.. (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.topcelebs.com/archive/Marina-Sirtis.htm
(posting as AC with bag over head.)
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I'd settle for a similar photo of Marina Sirtis, myself.
Vista, schmista...! (Score:5, Funny)
Just think of how many Xterms you can open on that machine!
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BZZZZT, wrong!!! (Score:3, Funny)
No.
Just 5.477 orders of magnitude more RAM.
I hope they mean PC-10600 (Score:4, Informative)
Wow! (Score:4, Funny)
I can finally run like thousands of useless linux instances. =P
Re:Wow! (Score:4, Insightful)
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24GB is not 192GB (Score:4, Insightful)
I dont see 8x capacity reaching consummers anytime soon anyway. This sorta thing is just silly, if you have enough money this has been available for ages, for the consumer this is still a long way off
yea, slashdot I know- RTFA (Score:5, Informative)
and see page 2 of it.
"An 8GB DDR3 memory module of the same speed costs between about $250 and $300 today.
The price of 16GB DDR3 modules remains far loftier, however. They were first announced this month by vendors such as Samsung Electronics and Smart Modular Technologies.
Samsung won't say how much it plans to charge, but Smart is charging PC makers $3,400 today for 16GB 1333-MHz RAM modules, a Smart spokeswoman said."
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4GB RAM Is All You Need... (Score:3, Funny)
I see you're not running Eclipse (Score:5, Insightful)
Eclipse + VMWare ... you'll love every bit above 4G.
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VM's (Score:4, Interesting)
Think of all the VM's you can run.
Not enough... (Score:4, Funny)
...640 GB should be enough for anybody.
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I bookmarked that.
We'll be laughing at you in 10 years or so!
What Intel giveth... (Score:5, Insightful)
Buy the RAM, get the server free! (Score:5, Interesting)
A few years ago when I was working at IBM, I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation on the price of one of the pSeries line with 256GB of RAM. Given the commodity price for RAM for that kind of hardware, using 8x32GB cards, the cost for the RAM was about $1M USD. Which was about the price we charged for the box, with storage, CPUs, AIX license, etc. It was kind of like "buy the RAM, get the server free".
Please ban the word "leverage" (Score:3, Insightful)
"Apple are all bringing out computers that leverage Intel's new Nehalem architecture"
Please tell me I'm not the only one that cringed at this example of newspeak? The word is *use*. "Apple are bringing out computers that **use** Intel's new Nehalem architecture".
The sentence isn't made any more profound, important or meaningful - no extra information is conveyed - by using faddish terms like "leverage"; designed exclusively to make MBAs sound like they have something to contribute (they usually don't).
Besides all that the topic is pointless since everyone knows we won't need more than 640K. ;)
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The sentence isn't made any more profound, important or meaningful - no extra information is conveyed - by using faddish terms like "leverage"; designed exclusively to make MBAs sound like they have something to contribute (they usually don't).
Normally I'd agree with you on this sort of thing, but I don't think "leverage" and "use" are equivalent here. To me, "leverage" implies that they are taking advantage of a tool that applies more force than some other, simpler, tool. Metaphorically, this is exactly the point they are making--Nehalem can do more than its predecessors, and Apple is using that advantage. This seems like a case where reasonable people could disagree.
Boot time (Score:5, Funny)
Memory Testing: 201326592K OK
Yea no thanks
The Evolution of the Processor Wars (Score:5, Interesting)
When Intel "innovated" and gave Nehalem on-board DDR3 memory controllers, they did something else as well : they made a "mine is bigger than yours" move by adding 1 more memory controller and thereby giving AMD's Shanghai the one-up. Well, AMD apparently isn't taking that lightly as next year they'll be releasing an upgrade to Istanbul ( which will ship this year ) which uses Socket G34 [wikipedia.org] as well as a 12-core Socket G34 "chip" -- codenamed Magny-Cours -- which will basically be an MCM of 2 Istanbuls/Sao-Paolos. Socket G34 will purportedly support processors with 4 independent DDR3 memory controllers -- AMD's "mine is bigger than yours" riposte to Intel.
Business as usual it seems.
jdb2
Re:The Evolution of the Processor Wars (Score:4, Funny)
.. next year they'll be releasing an upgrade to Istanbul..
Not Constantinople?
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Much cheaper to go with DDR2 (Score:5, Informative)
And that, my friends, is why you shouldn't buy Intel processors supporting DDR3 only (Core i7 or Nehalem-based Xeon). For large memory config, DDR2 is cheaper and motherboards with lots of slots are more common (try to find one with 32+ DDR3 slots: it does not exist !). Check this out: a config supporting 128GB at about 1/6th the cost of the one referenced in TFA ($50k):
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Uhh, yeah. Try 1000-fold! You know, since we're just making things up.
That's not true. 95% of all quoted statistics are accurate ;)
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Well sure, 75% of those surveyed knew that!
Re:Got that? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Got that? (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Got that? (Score:4, Funny)
and 2.629% of comments are so-called "Combo breaker"s. About 90% of them work ;). In other news: 2.6.29% of people don't understand decimal points, oddly enough.
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Re:Got that? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Got that? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Got that? (Score:4, Funny)
Take a piece of paper and fold it 20 times... it will be 1,048,576 times as thick.
20 fold is 2^20
so.. (2 ** 20) * $1800 == 1.887436800 Billion Dollars
So..somebody is wrong. Didn't read TFA to tell whether it is you or the article.
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Re:Got that? (Score:5, Funny)
Windows 8
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Re:Got that? (Score:4, Funny)
But after booting he will notice there is no more RAM free for applications.
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Re:Got that? (Score:4, Funny)
I like to run a 64-bit version of Python and make a really big list. Or, you can run Java programs (for a while) with GC disabled.
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Re:Got that? (Score:5, Insightful)
I like to run a 64-bit version of Python and make a really big list. Or, you can run Java programs (for a while) with GC disabled.
But Windows will still push the Java app out to the swap file, and load all the Microsoft apps installed on your system into memory, just in case you want them.
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No such thing as too "Much RAM" (Score:3, Insightful)
But, will they sell me an application that can use that much RAM? I'm fresh out.
No point having that much gas if I've no car to put it in...
Some of was want more RAM than we will ever use. If I'm using all the available RAM on my system, then I don't have enough.
Re:Got that? (Score:5, Funny)
This is slashdot. The acceptable answers are:
Now turn in your geek card.
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I'm sure the design targets memory intensive applications like VMware ESX virtualization hosting servers. (You could also use Solaris Zones or Xen Server)
With 8-16GB of ram statically assigned to each Guest VM (Virtual Machine), 128GB only covers 7 to 15 hosted Servers (less ESX memory overhead)
If you're doing VDI (Virtualized Desktops with Vista), that's only up to 31 VM PCs per blade.
Storage is commonly not an issue/botteneck since a SAN is often used (It works even with VMotion).
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Load the whole OS into ramdisk at bootup. Then have fun.
The whole OS? Most /.ers could load their entire porn collection into ramdisk with 192GB.
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-40 is less than 10, after all,
Yes, but at least it's the same in Celsius and Fahrenheit.
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Re:finallly! (Score:5, Funny)
My memory is largely filled with things I saw on porn sites. I like it that way.
Oh, wait. Did you mean RAM? Never mind.
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Or.... you could do like this guy and make a RAID with 24 SSDs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs [youtube.com]
You'd get 6Tb of storage for half the cost of the machine in the article... much more useful, no UPS needed.
Re:Hmmm, who needs a hard drive. (Score:5, Informative)
Hmm, I don't know. Not according to here... [rampedia.com] And according to an AMD page, "Energy-efficient DDR2 memory uses up to 30% less power than DDR1 and up to 58% less power than FBDIMM."
According to here [interfacebus.com] a DDR2 DIMM needs 4.4 watts. Let's round up to 10 watts and say each DIMM is, oh, 4gb (pretty low, I'd say). That's 48 DIMMs to get up to 192, 96 to get up to 384. At a whopping 10 watts (pretty high) that's still ~ 500W for 192gb and ~1000W for 384gb. Cut the wattage down to 5W per DIMM and you get half (250W, 500W). >1000W "home user" power supplies aren't too uncommon these days [tigerdirect.com] (1600W on tigerdirect.com...)
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