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Ultra-Light Micro Air Vehicles

Posted by samzenpus on Thu Jul 24, 2008 06:57 AM
from the eye-in-the-sky dept.
Roland Piquepaille writes "Dutch engineers have built the third generation of the DelFly autonomous air vehicle. The DelFly Micro made its first public flight earlier today in Delft. This micro air vehicle weighs only 3 grams and has a wingspan of 10 centimeters. This very small remote-controlled aircraft carries a 0.4 gram camera. The DelFly Micro, which looks like a dragonfly, can fly for 3 minutes at a maximum speed of 5 meters/second. It could be used for observation flights in difficult-to-reach or dangerous areas."
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  • Paging Danny Dunn... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:02AM (#24316667)

    Danny Dunn [wikipedia.org] to the white courtesy phone, please ...

    • by QuantumHack (58048) * on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:10AM (#24316705) Homepage

      That's exactly what I was thinking! When I was 12, and I read Raymond Abrashkin's "Danny Dunn: Invisible Boy", I was mesmerized. And this mini UAV is essentially the plot device in the book, right down to the dragonfly appearance. Pretty good prediction for a book from the mid '70s.

  • Video link: (Score:5, Informative)

    by Sporkus (840586) <<kevrhodes> <at> <gmail.com>> on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:04AM (#24316677)
    There's a video of the DelFly Micro in action here [youtube.com]. It takes flight about a minute and a half in.
  • You'd still notice this in the girl's shower.

  • I do hope Santa has a good stock of these come Christmas time. I just have to persuade my wife I really do _need_ one of these.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      After looking at it in action, I still prefer the toy helis I got.

      They're 50% longer and wider (so not much bigger), but they are 5 times heavier - 15g.

      They look like this:
      http://www.airsport.com.hk/ShowProduct.asp?id=380
      (I didn't buy it from there though - it's just a link I got from google).

      Trouble is the quality control is not very good, so either you get it at a shop where you can test it first, or you'd have to risk getting a dud. And even if it seems to work, there's no guarantee it'll continue to wor
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        There's also this new one [thinkgeek.com], which is basically the same size as the DelFly Micro, can hover, and has double the flight time. It doesn't have a camera, though, but considering TFA claims the Micro's camera only weighs 0.5 grams it would be easy to add one.

  • 3 minutes? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Ngarrang (1023425) on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:18AM (#24316765) Journal

    3 minutes is not very useful. By the time you reach your destination and actually get some good images, you've run out of time to return and have effectively lost your MAV. If they are meant to be throw-away, this is not a design flaw.

    From my experience as an RC pilot, the smaller the craft, the more difficult it is to control. I would be curious to see how they've overcome the twitchiness of a such light weight.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      It doesn't looks as though they have overcome the twitchiness. Perhaps the idea is to buy them by the gross. You only need one to get through.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Assuming the 5m/s is correct, it could fly upto 900 metres in its 3 minute flight time. Surely thats enough to fly into a danger area & take a few snaps ?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      3 minutes is not very useful. By the time you reach your destination and actually get some good images, you've run out of time to return and have effectively lost your ...

      Ahem. That's what she said.

    • 3 minutes is not very useful. By the time you reach your destination and actually get some good images,

      Some slashdotters may be quicker on the trigger than you.

  • What happens if one of these gets sucked into a jet engine? Are they small and soft enough to not cause problems?
    • by dimension6 (558538) on Thursday July 24 2008, @08:15AM (#24317201)
      Hm...I don't think they'll survive easily if they get sucked into a jet engine. They're kind of small and don't look that durable.
      • by MrNaz (730548) on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:55AM (#24317037) Homepage

        In an issue of Meat & Poultry magazine, editors quoted from "Feathers," the publication of the California Poultry Industry Federation, telling the following story:

        The US Federal Aviation Administration has a unique device for testing the strength of windshields on airplanes. The device is a gun that launches a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at approximately the speed the plane flies.

        The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the carcass impact, it'll survive a real collision with a bird during flight.

        It seems the British were very interested in this and wanted to test a windshield on a brand new, speedy locomotive they're developing.

        They borrowed FAA's chicken launcher, loaded the chicken and fired.

        The ballistic chicken shattered the windshield, broke the engineer's chair and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine's cab. The British were stunned and asked the FAA to recheck the test to see if everything was done correctly.

        The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and had one recommendation:

        "Use a thawed chicken."

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          This old chestnut has been around for years. The way I first heard it (at least 15 years ago) was that the Chicken Gun was Canadian and the FAA had to have the concept of a thawed fowl gently explained to them.

          I have no doubt every country has a different idiot/victim, depending on who your most popular "moron nation" happens to be at the moment.

          • Mythbusters used the wrong kind of airframe for testing. It does make a big difference. The flimsy little unpressurized airplane they used was going to break no matter what they fired at it. They did a re-do [discovery.com] of that test and concluded frozen was worse.

            Part-23 aircraft (little airplanes) have to withstand a 2-lb bird hitting the windscreen at max flap speed. Part-25 aircraft (airliners) have to withstand an 8-lb bird hitting the empennage at cruse speed and a 4-lb bird hitting anywhere else including the
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        Wasn't intended as a troll, I promise. :-) I was already aware that jets are tested with chickens, but chickens (bones included) are pretty soft compared to, say, batteries. And I think these could get pretty close to a jet on take-off or landing. Maybe you should re-read my comment and yours, and ask yourself which sounds more like a troll.
  • Why a dragonfly? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Blice (1208832) <Lifes@Alrig.ht> on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:26AM (#24316803)
    I don't understand why they're trying to shape it after a dragonfly- There are more efficient ways of getting around the air than flapping wings. I mean, yeah, I get that it would be cool to have one that actually looked like a dragonfly for spying and such, but for getting into dangerous or hard to reach places it shouldn't be designed this way.

    I think a really good example is this guy's plane [youtube.com], he made it to be as light as possible and had to make his own motor for it. I think they should make one the size of this 'dragonfly' but with a propeller like the plane in the video.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I don't understand why they're trying to shape it after a dragonfly- There are more efficient ways of getting around the air than flapping wings. I mean, yeah, I get that it would be cool to have one that actually looked like a dragonfly for spying and such, but for getting into dangerous or hard to reach places it shouldn't be designed this way.

      Yeah, the millions of species of insect and bird have got a lot to learn from us land lubbers. I mean, hovering in one position is a piece of cake for our mechanical devices, so much so that we can get a flight to anywhere we want and we don't need a runway. Oh, wait, we can't unless we use a helicopter, which is slow in the horizontal plane and noisy and fuel hungry.
      Living things manipulate the air in much more elegant and finely controlled ways than anything man has produced. We mainly just force our wa

    • A dragonfly (both real ones and this one - did you watch the videos?) is a lot move maneuverable (can change direction on a dime) than a plane, and also for covert applications not going to draw attention since it really does look like a dragonfly and the only noise is the flapping wings.

      I'm not even sure that the aerodynamics of plane would scale to this small, but this thing demonstrably does, and real-life dragonflys prove that this design does indeed work at smaller scales such as the 5cm they are targe

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I don't understand why they're trying to shape it after a dragonfly- There are more efficient ways of getting around the air than flapping wings.

      Flapping wings can be more efficient at low Reynolds number [amazon.com] configurations, like small insects or micro UAVs.

      Evolution, of course, already worked out the Reynolds number configurations for soaring, near-fixed wing flight (large birds of prey) versus mostly flapping flight (flies).

      • Heh,

        I remember reading that book as a kid! MAN I wanted one of those SO BADLY. And now I can finally get one! Although I think I'll skip the "setting fires with small dragonfly probe and destroying the probe in the process" part.

  • by Werrismys (764601) on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:38AM (#24316895)
    take a peek at who's around thecorner.. or who's lieing prone on the ceiling... heck, add 2 grams of explosive and use it as a diversion.
  • Insectothopter? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by rocketman768 (838734) on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:39AM (#24316913) Homepage
    Insectothopter? [wikipedia.org] CIA had these back in the 70s...very hard to control in winds over 5 knots though.
  • I can't find the word autonomous anywhere in TFA and it's not surprising, considering that it's radio controlled. They "may" make it capable of self guidance in future, but at the moment it's not autonomous.
    Nice long word though Roland ! Maybe you meant eponymous ?
  • by BobMcD (601576) on Thursday July 24 2008, @07:43AM (#24316955)

    Does NO ONE ELSE remember THIS conversation:

    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/11/131214 [slashdot.org]

    Scroll through it and take in all the posts about how all the eye witnesses were CRAZY to have reported seeing "Dragonfly-Sized Insect Spies". Bathe in the impossibility of the batteries, the cameras, the wireless technology. Soak up how it simply was not even close to being true.

    One of a short list of things must be the case:

    A) That story from October certainly WAS plausible and a lot of you pundits are going to be dining on fresh hat today.

    B) All the know-it-all's are still correct, due to some technicality.

    C) I have somehow swapped dimensions again and no one ever said it didn't happen at all...

  • The DelFly Micro, which looks like a dragonfly, can fly for 3 minutes at a maximum speed of 5 meters/second. It could be used for observation flights in difficult-to-reach or dangerous areas

    How can it do that, if it only flies for 3 minutes?

    • How can it do that, if it only flies for 3 minutes?

      5 meters per second, 300 seconds. 1500 meters (just under a mile). I can think of a lot of times a group of soldiers might want to know what was going on within a mile of their location, say, over near that machinegun nest....

      • I can think of a lot of times a group of soldiers might want to know what was going on within a mile of their location, say, over near that machinegun nest....

              (One 500lb bomb later)

              WHAT machine-gun nest?

    • by splutty (43475) on Thursday July 24 2008, @08:20AM (#24317257)

      I would say 500 meters straight up and over the edge of that cliff you're standing at the bottom of would definitely fall under 'difficult-to-reach'. And quite possibly be extremely useful to have one person there checking that out before you bring in say that helicopter...

  • I have a simple question and I must so humbly ask forgiveness for my ignorance but...

    WHAT THE FUCK DOES OHNOITSROLAND MEAN FER CHRISSAKE
    • by jafiwam (310805) on Thursday July 24 2008, @08:12AM (#24317173) Homepage Journal

      "Roland" is the submission whore that "blogs" (copies) stuff from all over, links to it, adds a simplistic comment then somehow gets that submitted to Slashdot.

      He does it for ad revenue. Quite effective at it, and quite annoying for those great unwashed that don't suck Slashdot dick to get stories submitted.

      • Ah, you see? Now I know!

        I must excuse my outburst, someone took the Vodka bottle from my bottom drawer so I had to get by with seven coffees this morning.

        Perhaps I'll ask the janitor sleeping under my desk if he knows where the bottle went.
    • Nooo it won't have Sidewinders, it will have a Stinger.

      See cuz it's small.

      Small right? Like a...

      Bug...

      Annnnnd...

      <spontaneously implodes>