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Simple Chemical Trick To Boost Battery Efficiency
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samzenpus
on Wed May 16, 2007 11:56 PM
from the power-up dept.
from the power-up dept.
space_mongoose writes "Hitachi thinks that a simple chemical additive could significantly improve battery life. Alkaline batteries have a positive electrode of manganese oxide and a negative electrode of finely powdered zinc, but zinc oxide forms around these grains of zinc. Hitachi's solution is to replace the zinc with a fine powder of zinc-aluminum alloy, displacing the zinc within the zinc oxide layer making it a much better conductor."
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At least this is not (Score:5, Funny)
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jk:P
Re:At least this is not (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:One small step for Hitachi another big marketin (Score:3, Insightful)
I agree, but the New and Improved batteries might still be much cheaper and less hazardous [wikipedia.org].
Incremental Changes (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Incremental Changes - OR... (Score:2)
I'd settle for that carbon nano-tube batt-capacitor that would recharge a virtually infinite number of times in seconds, instead of hours.
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The most likely breakthrough is likely to come from the hardware and software of your laptop rather than the battery. With e-paper type display fast enough for interactive use, 386-level CPU/RAM, flash storage and carefully optimized software stack, an existing battery can last anywhere from a week if you are compiling code to many months if you are just reading an e-book. To achieve compara
Powertop (Score:3, Informative)
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If you don't need Windows games, you could go with an open-source OS, which means anything ARM or MIPS-based could be fair game. I can easily imagine a asynchronous multi-core ARM processor that runs Linux fast enough for me as long as it has enough memory to keep Firefox happy. Just doing away with PC compatibility would increase efficiencies (imagine not having a v
Costs? (Score:4, Informative)
P.S. the skyrocketing metal costs, including important ones like copper and silver, are part of an ongoing commodity boom and response to out of control inflation in the USA and depreciating US dollar. The rapidly increasing costs of these metals will be reflected in goods we buy, like batteries.
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Re:Costs? (Score:4, Interesting)
Just my 2 cents.
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On your question of costs, according to lme.co.uk, Aluminium is currently $2,185 per tonne and Zinc is $3,850 per tonne, so I wouldn't
Energizer super ultra-platinum pro? (Score:2)
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Like you, pretty much all the rest of my battery powered stuff is rechargable.
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Peak current, yes - Extra life, not so much (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Peak current, yes - Extra life, not so much-THI (Score:2)
This alone might make them suitable in digital cameras, who's current requirements presently don't match up well with inexpensive alkaline cells.
Re:Peak current, yes - Extra life, not so much-THI (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Peak current, yes - Extra life, not so much-THI (Score:5, Funny)
Currently, yes. They're all amped up, you'll be unable to resist them when they come out. Shocking charges, I know, but few have the capacity to induce or impede such a flow of power, watt?
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Voltage. (Score:4, Insightful)
There are many applications where 1.2V just doesn't substitute well for 1.5V.
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My baby monitor uses AAs, and I *can* put nicads or nimhs in, but they go dead just from self-discharge as fast as they do from use, so I stick to cheap Kirkland alkalines. I keep daydreaming of putting a single litium-ion cell in it, and addin
Re:Voltage. (Score:5, Informative)
The new Sanyo Eneloop [thomasdistributing.com] NiMH batteries don't have that problem.
I recently $wapped out my vast collection of piss-poor Energizer (2500 mAH) AAs for Eneloop (2000 mAH) AAs, and there's no going back!
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As I was reading reviews, I found that several reviewers recommended getting a nice charger. The recommended one to get is the Maha Powerex MH-C401FS. Each of the slots charges independently so you can charge any number instead of 2 or 4 at a time only, supports AA and AAA, or NiMH, it can charge in fast mode (100 minutes) or slow (5-8 hours),
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I suppose you know a lot about electronics design to be making such a judgment.
Yep, I worked for 4.5 years in an electrical engineering firm, designing the electronics for hand-held consumer products, with a particular focus on the supply side.
In particular, consumer products that can't deal with 1.2v cells simply have a supply-side electronic design that is 30+ years old. A lot of old designs get reused over and over again, as their patents have expired and the designers find it easy to replay the same theme over and over again.
Although it generally costs no money to design and bui
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Battery voltage is determined by its chemistry.. So unfortunately not possible!
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In your experiment, don't forget about the "control" batteries.
why (Score:3, Insightful)
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Aluminium oxide dissolves in sufficiently strong alkali (it's the method used to prepare aluminium parts for anodizing). I don't know if the electrolyte in the battery is sufficient to do this but that might be the explaination.
May I be the first to say (Score:5, Funny)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxXt1AdSamA [youtube.com]
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Kentucky Fried Movie - Zinc Oxide [youtube.com]
With all these advancements... (Score:2)
Re:With all these Amazing advancements... (Score:2)
Wow... (Score:2)
Who want to use non-rechargeable batteries anymore (Score:2)
I only use rechargeable batteries. They can be recharged 1000 times before they die, so they are extremely cheaper than the traditional ones.
Also, the ability to use the same battery for years and years makes it a lot more environmentally friendly. Just imagine, for a particular gadget you have, how many times you have thrown batteries away. The environmental cost per Wh is a complete nonsense.
EV Bunny w/ 12ft. afterburner flame! Oh!No! (Score:2)
Can I order some in time for July 4th?
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Re:Cost-efficiency? (Score:5, Insightful)
And battery companies don't do it because they want your batteries to run out faster, so you'll buy more...
Do you have *any* evidence for this?
I'd say the opposite is true. Battery companies *do* come out with new, higher performance models, and they provide good data about how well they perform. For example, Energizer has their e2 line of batteries, which have a longer life under some discharge conditions -- and those conditions are thoroughly documented in the data sheet.
See also continued improvements in lithium ion rechargeable technology -- in the past few years both power and energy densities have improved dramatically.
I suggest you do some research into the current state of the art before claiming the battery companies just sit on technology so you'll buy more batteries.
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Maybe you picked up on tone that the GP missed. At 50-50 odds, that's not absurd enough for you to start flinging insults at his reading comprehen
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introducing this new technique is costly not only in increased component price, but in retooling too. There might be long-term contracts with suppliers of zinc, and changing them will take some time.
In the end, better batteries are always good, but the change might take some time