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Working Model of MIT $100 Laptop a Hit

Posted by timothy on Thu Jun 08, 2006 01:00 PM
from the encheapening dept.
capt turnpike writes "The One Laptop per Child association and its chairman, MIT Media Labs's Nicholas Negroponte, unvelied a working model of their $100 laptop at the Massachusetts Innovation and Technology Exchange (MITX) show, and the little laptop that might was a hit. It's got a version of Fedora Linux, is rugged, and each unit will work as part of a wireless mesh automatically. From the article: "However, as Negroponte put it in his address, One Laptop per Child isn't all about the laptops. The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own, thus helping children help themselves to learn." eWEEK.com also has photos."
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EmperorKagato writes "Nicholas Negroponte's project for every child to have a laptop will come true for over 500 students in Thailand. Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra expects each child to receive a laptop instead of books as the books will be provided electronically. The laptop, mentioned previously on Slashdot, will now be brought to children in Thailand in October and November, with hopes for future shipments to Nigeria, Brazil and Argentina in 2007." This story selected and edited by LinuxWorld editor for the day Saied Pinto.
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  • by TripMaster Monkey (862126) * on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:01PM (#15496064)

    From Negroponte's address in TFA:
    "The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own, thus helping children help themselves to learn."

    Negroponte then went on to say:
    With this in mind, we won't be supplying any documentation for these laptops. Instead, we're going to make the children sift through MAN pages and beg for answers on various bulletin boards, where they will be ridiculed as clueless n00bs. Hey, it seems to work for the Linux community..."
  • by m-wielgo (858054) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:03PM (#15496080) Homepage
    I know it's meant for children, but damn that thing screams Fisher-Price ugliness!
    • by catch23 (97972) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:08PM (#15496122)
      As another commenter noted in the previous slashdot article, the colors are also a deterrent for potential theives stealing laptops from kids. Anyone who looks older than 18 and is carrying a fisher-price laptop probably stole it from a kid. Easy way to spot.
    • Re:For the children (Score:5, Interesting)

      by DrXym (126579) on Thursday June 08 2006, @02:14PM (#15496759)
      Ugly or not, if you offered me a laptop with a keyboard, touch pad and hi-res screen for $300 with some useful productivity apps, I'd buy one like a shot. Whether it looked like a demented speak & spell or not. I hate lugging around expensive, fragile, battery sapping laptops just to get internet access when I'm away for a bit. I hate the small unusable screens on a Pocket PC. These things are meant to be kidproof so you toss them in a backpack without much concern, or whip them out on a train or airline clip tray for practically instant-on computing. It's no wonder Bill Gates is afraid of these things. Who the hell would buy his Origami concept costing twice as much when this thing fits the bill so well? That's assuming a commercial version does appear.
  • $130 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mopslik (688435) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:05PM (#15496096)

    Isn't that the $130 [guardian.co.uk] laptop? Or did they manage to bring the cost back down?

  • by agent dero (680753) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:06PM (#15496107) Homepage
    This isn't trolling or anything, I am still in American public schooling (public uni.), and this quote struck me as odd.

    The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own, thus helping children help themselves to learn.

    I'm in an engineering degree, and I'm shocked at the lack of this ability in college students at american schools! I'm tickled by the fact that we're so set on helping foreign education, when our own educational system is in dire need of....some bloody education.
    • We need to encourage this sort of thing overseas, so these kids can grow up into the next generation of outsourced tech support reps serving the next generation of American pointy-haired bosses who can barely work a can opener.
    • It's the way we've set up the system. You go to school so someone can tell you the facts, and present practical math and science concepts in the driest, most abstract way possible.

      Every time I talk to a kid and they say something like "Algebra sucks. I'll never use this again in my life" I want to jump out of my skin. And hell, I didn't know it myself, because I was taught the same way. I just ended up in a lot of fields, not even complex fields, where you had to have a grasp on practical math.

      If you teach the answers then people are always going to be looking for someone to tell them the answers. If you teach people how to find the answers themselves using manuals, newsgroups, and, if all else fails, their damn brain, then you'll end up with well educated people.
  • by Theovon (109752) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:08PM (#15496117)
    Seriously, aren't bright reds and oranges supposed to make you a little nuts if you're surrounded by them too much? The orange would make me ill after a while. Are we trying to make the users hyper-active or something?

    Everything else is great, but PLEASE TONE DOWN THE COLOR.
  • by dr_dank (472072) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:10PM (#15496133) Homepage Journal
    This will all be worthwhile when we have first African child get first post on Slashdot (and then gets modded down. Welcome to the interweb, n00b!).
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:11PM (#15496139)
    I was there at the event and got to try it after Nick spoke. It is definitely not a toy. He said people might be able to buy one in the U.S. next year (paying double so half could buy a kid in another country one). It was very light and the screen (which has two modes) was really nice (1200 x 900). The orange plastic was cool and the little rabbit ears (looked almost like devil horns) move freely to get optimal wi-mesh signal. It's definitely Fedora, but is "skinny" as it has been modified somewhat.

    The specs?

    500 Mhz chip
    128 MB RAM
    512 MB Flash Memory

  • no manual? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:12PM (#15496153)
    >The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual
    >and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own, thus helping children help themselves to learn.

    So in other words, a global pandemic of people who don't know how to RTFM.
  • by peterdaly (123554) * <petedaly&ix,netcom,com> on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:13PM (#15496165)
    I've heard it described as the technology gap will, and has already started to push the first and third worlds further apart. More importantly, it is becoming ever more difficult to improve the living conditions and economies as this gap widens.

    This device and plan, if it can be pulled off, could be the single most import thing in helping third world populations on a large scale over the long term.

    It's not the technology itself, per say, but the communications that it enables. Getting cell phones into places is a similar type of project. Things as simple as finding the market price of lets say rice, can apparently make big diferences in building economies.
  • Want one? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Rob T Firefly (844560) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:14PM (#15496182) Homepage Journal
    Here's the page [pledgebank.com] where you can pledge to buy one for triple the price, donating the other two.
  • by Momoru (837801) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:15PM (#15496196) Homepage Journal
    How long before we find these on eBay for $200? Money and food probably means a lot more to many of these people's immediate needs then a laptop for their child.
    • by Tweekster (949766) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:24PM (#15496292)
      No you are thinking of the western POV. You believe that Africa has one class of people, dirt poor, barely surviving and in a constant struggle for food and shelter.

      In reality this isnt focused at those people, but rather the ones that have overcome that daily struggle and have what is considered a decent live there, education is the next goal for them.
        • by DragonWriter (970822) on Thursday June 08 2006, @02:08PM (#15496708)
          I've looked through all their websites, and they don't clearly indicate if these laptops are for the dirt poor or for the middle class.

          They are fairly clear that they are looking for national ministries of education to purchase them in bulk and distribute them nationally through schools on the basis of "one laptop per child", not only is this goal reflected in the name of the project (One Laptop Per Child), but detailed more specifically in the FAQ [laptop.org]:

          How will these be marketed? The laptops will be sold to governments and issued to children by schools on a basis of one laptop per child. Initial discussions have been held with China, India, Brazil, Argentina, Egypt, Nigeria, and Thailand. An additional, modest allocation of machines will be used to seed developer communities in a number of other countries. A commercial version of the machine will be explored in parallel.
          How clear can they be?
    • by DragonWriter (970822) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:46PM (#15496507)
      Money and food probably means a lot more to many of these people's immediate needs then a laptop for their child.

      It certainly does, and if you were paying any attention you'd find lots of organizations devoting to addressing those immediate needs.

      OTOH, if they don't deal with the longer-term needs of education and economic development -- both of which dirt cheap, mass-produced computers that are nearly universally available can help with -- those underlying problem driving those "immediate needs" that are temporarily alleviated by cash and food will simply worsen, and more cash and more food will be required to acheive the same results.

  • The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own ...

    ... so that by age 18 they can change their professional name to "Bob" and tell Americans weaned on PlayStations that "WiFi connections do not involve 'gremlins,' sir;" "any software company offering free pornography for each install probably should not be trusted" and "there is no 'feng shui' component on your iPod, and if there were it would not be defective, and if it were defective then no, it would not be covered by AppleCare."

    Yay capitalism ;->

  • by feijai (898706) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:27PM (#15496320)
    Extremely rugged, no moving parts, flash RAM, inexpensive, small screen laptop designed for K-12. Where did I hear of such a thing before? [the-gadgeteer.com]

    Oh that's right. $800 back in 1997. By Moore's law, that should be about $25 now. So with a color screen, USB, and wireless, $100 isn't bad. Lost the touchscreen though. :-(

  • by k1980pc (942645) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:28PM (#15496335)
    You said you could get it done..more than half the world did not believe you. You have got it delivered within such a short span. Its sheer brilliance compared to certain companies promising certain products and the timelines getting forwarded by years. I remember a specific company doing that about a product called Vista :)
    Speaking about the OS, great that it uses fedora core.. Open Source for a Good Cause. Way to Go.
    BTW, fire the designer for that orangey look..uh..wait..may be this might catch on like the old ibook..keep him for the timebeing.
  • n00bies on the raise (Score:3, Interesting)

    by layer3switch (783864) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:29PM (#15496339)
    "The main goal is to tap into the ability of every child to toss away a manual and figure out how to make gadgets work on their own..."

    As a future warning for Fedora community, expect sudden jump in n00b questions in several different languages. Also keep in mine that those n00bs are mostly children. Please refer "RTFM" as "Read The Fine Manual" and "STFU" as "Stop Talking Fast, User".

    And most importantly, every time you use "LOL" and "ROTFL" and "LMAO", just remember; You are laughing with them, not at them.

    Thank you,

    concern citizen from Softer Gentler Linux community
  • An idea (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dexter77 (442723) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:33PM (#15496388)
    I have strange feeling that this laptop will be more popular in western world than in developing countries. I, for one, will definately buy it, just have a nice new gadget. $100 is cheap for any gadget.

    But hey! I have an idea. Let's make the price $200 in western world and each computer that we buy, will give one for free to someone in developing countries! $200 isn't much for a working computer. Plus, atleast for once, you get a good feeling for buying something that you don't really need :)

  • 0=360 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Doc Ruby (173196) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:35PM (#15496392) Homepage Journal
    Wait, I thought the US computer makers said a $100 laptop was impossible. 8 months later, it's done.

    But then, IBM said it was impossible to keep its HD and PC businesses before selling them to Hitachi and Lenovo. Those companies are making big profits continuing the business.

    Making money and new products when you're positioned at the top of the computer business is now so easy that it's looped all the way around from "impossible" to "inevitable".
  • by nizo (81281) * on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:35PM (#15496395) Homepage Journal
    I know schools here in the US who can't even put a computer on the desk of any of the kids; many share 5 crummy machines between two (or more) classes. There are many places here that could use these things; I don't understand why there is no interest in marketing them right here. It seems like having electronic books would be cheaper/easier too?
    • by israel_zayas (206156) on Thursday June 08 2006, @02:24PM (#15496853)
      [quote]I know schools here in the US who can't even put a computer on the desk of any of the kids; many share 5 crummy machines between two (or more) classes. There are many places here that could use these things; I don't understand why there is no interest in marketing them right here. It seems like having electronic books would be cheaper/easier too [/quote]

      Forgive me for saying this, but:
      b/c those same kids have PSP's, Ipods and cell phones... If their parents wont buy them a computer why should the public give them one for free.
  • by penguin_dance (536599) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:44PM (#15496490)
    Yay, now that Nigerian prince can email me directly!

  • by Maximum Prophet (716608) on Thursday June 08 2006, @02:11PM (#15496731)
    There's already lots of education in Africa supplied by organizations like the Peace Corp and churches. Trouble is, it's targetted at the best and brightest children, who, after they do well in school, tend to leave and never come back. What 3rd world countries need is broad education that includes adults. The networking aspects of this machine could help with that. The children could be less likely to leave if they are in constant contact with their peers, learning from and teaching them and their parents. Imagine, distributed schools. Imagine a beowulf cluster of them. (:-)
    • Re:Food? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:11PM (#15496147)
      Yes, because we all know that all third-world countries shouldn't be provided with anything that would help their economies move forward. Instead, they should only receive insufficient food handouts, remaining in their impoverished third-world states forever.
    • Re:Food? (Score:3, Insightful)

      Oh my god you punched a hole in the brilliant plan of supplying laptops instead of food to the starving people.

      How about this: These laptops aren't meant to replace food, and they're not gonna throw them after people that's starving instead of food. But these people also need to LEARN. And that's what these are for. Man, you people just wanna feed those poor kids instead of learning them how to feed themselves.
        • Re:Food? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by DragonWriter (970822) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:58PM (#15496612)
          Typically people starve during times of political unrest or drought, but not because they don't know how to do it.


          Typically, people starve in the third world because they lack the skills and/or resources to provide anything to the global economy that can be exchanged for food, and because the subsistence agriculture that they do have the skill to do is inherently risky, threatened by pollution and climate shifts, and often not the way that the people in power can make the most money; further the crop failures are as often the result of bad agricultural methods as they are by actual drought.

          Enhancing education helps deal with the underlying problems that cause starvation. OLPC is certainly neither the whole solution, nor the component most related to short-term needs. But there are lots of other groups involved in addression the problems of the developing world, and pissing on OLPC because it doesn't address all the problems, or the one piece you think is most immediate, is idiotic.

          The people doing OLPC aren't hurting the efforts of organizations like the Red Cross or Food for the Poor. Indeed, it seems to me like it goes hand-in-hand with the efforts of small business development and microcredit in the third world that have demonstrated that building economic capacity by providing basic assistance aimed at enabling individual productivity can have considerable effects in dealing with the crushing poverty that produces hunger.

          This is, really, about helping developing societies develope more of the tools they need -- in terms of human capital -- to feed themselves.

    • Re:Food? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Tweekster (949766) on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:19PM (#15496237)
      Not everything is about the very bottom of the impoverished ladder.

      This is for children that have overcome the daily quest for food.

      Why do people insist on thinking this is for children that dont have any food and live in ditches.
      Not every poor person falls into that category.
    • Re:Food? (Score:3, Insightful)

      We've tried to support the poorer parts of the world for many, many years with food and while it has undoubtedly saved millions (maybve billions) of lives the economy, with some exception, hasn't improved much. This might be a great way to get children to be interested in learning and maybe inspire some of them to get a higher education.

      I think this is a great humanitarian initiative, showing that there is more to living than just staying alive. I'm not saying we should stop with the food, but this here i

    • by maggard (5579) <michael@michaelmaggard.com> on Thursday June 08 2006, @01:29PM (#15496342) Homepage Journal

      This has been addressed many times.

      Yes, kids need water, food, vaccinations, a place to sleep, and if they and their communities are to be successful and self-supporting an education also.

      Is a $100 laptop extravagant for supporting an education? No,because it's multipurpose tool offering information, tutorials, communications, and soon after distribution locally built & relevant applications. By offering these kids access to the larger world, to an education in their own language, to contribute and distribute materials, it gives they, and their communities, opportunities to break their cycle of poverty.

      It's not an either/or proposition between food and education, BOTH are needed, one fills the short-term need and the other the long-term.

    • Re:Me so hungry (Score:4, Insightful)

      by kadathseeker (937789) on Thursday June 08 2006, @03:01PM (#15497190) Homepage
      For the fifty millionth time, not all of them are starving! This isn't for the kids you see on the adopt-a-child commercials, this is for the semi-stable states that would hopefully, through the education of its children, begin modernizing and bring wealth, prosperity, education, and infrastructure to the entire region. If, say, 7 African nations were truly on their way to becoming first world nations, imagine how it would affect their neighbours.

      If all we did was feed starving people, they'd be dependant on us forever, and would have rampant overpopulation and disease. By educating the parts of the continent that is slightly better off, they can help themselves, and then help their neighbours help themselves.