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In-Car Navigation Systems Too Distracting?
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ScuttleMonkey
on Tue Feb 21, 2006 08:34 PM
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Lam1969 writes "A survey released by an insurance company shows that drivers with in-car navigation systems are more likely to lose concentration than drivers who unfold a map while driving. From the article: 'One in 10 motorists with navigation systems set off on their journeys without bothering to program their route, and more than half admitted that they then had to take their eyes off the road to input the details while driving. Nearly one in eight did not even bother to check out a route they were unfamiliar with and simply relied on the technology to get them to their destination.'"
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dashboard diplays (Score:5, Interesting)
Darwinian dashboards (Score:4, Insightful)
OTOH, maybe they did it on purpose. GM: Better Drivers through Darwinian Selection.
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Re:dashboard diplays (Score:4, Interesting)
While I certainly agree about the system status display of the Prius,
I would have to say that the negatives of the GPS system are FAR outweighed
by the positives. Having had the pleasure of using one for a while, I
find it painful NOT to have.
Things that are good about the systems:
1) the voice navigation prompts are very useful, and, while not absolutely precise, are close enough to make navigation much less painful.
2) The ability to locate nearby points of interest and get immediate directions to it (restaurants, parts stores, etc).
3) The increase in safety from not having to keep referring to a printed map or directions to find a new place.
4) I, for one, find it stressful to be driving through twisty country roads that I have never been on, with no clear map in my head as to where I am at, and how far I am from turns, etc. The GPS navigation unit removes much of that stress.
5) The ability to nearly instantly reroute to avoid obstructions, traffic jams, etc.
6) (with SOME units) the ability to update internal maps with current information on road conditions, etc, so, routes can be planned to avoid obstructions.
7) Frankly, it is just a REALLY cool gadget...and that is worth something.
I would agree that, as with many new toys, it can be slightly distracting
at first, but, I found that it rapidly became a background tool for me, so
while I would glance at the screen for intersections, etc, I did not stare
at it for long periods of time. We are, after all, adults, and need to
act like adults...not like gawking children (shocking as that thought might
be). This also means that we need to use the GPS as an auxilary tool, and
not the sole control piloting the vehicle. It is a data tool that needs
to be used with common sense... It has, a few times, gotten confused about
what direction the one-way streets ran and such, but, I realized this, and
simply went a block or so down from it, and picked up the route again...easy
enough to deal with.
Regards
Dave Mundt
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And this is diffrent how? (Score:3, Insightful)
This is different how? Compared to people just using Mapquest to get where they need to be.
Re:And this is diffrent how? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:And this is diffrent how? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:And this is diffrent how? (Score:3, Funny)
# Subject: Driver Follows Navigation System Into River
# From: "Vic Maslanka"
# Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 14:17:32 PST
>BONN, Germany (Reuters) - A German motorist obediently following the
>satellite-guided navigation system of his car drove straight into the
>Havel River in eastern Germany, police said Saturday.
>
>He drove his BMW Friday night past a stop sign, down a ferry ramp and
>about four meters (12 feet) into the river before stopping. The
>
Where's the problem ? (Score:5, Interesting)
I've done the trip before, but I wouldn't say I was familiar with it, and I tried to see different things this time anyway - we went somewhat out of our way to Monument Valley on the way back, 'cos that's fairly spectacular
The thing performs perfectly - I use it a lot. The confidence it brings when you know it will work out the best route and take you that way is just great. No panic if (when) you miss a junction on a freeway because you were in the wrong lane. No problem if you miss a turn in a city you don't know. I can't praise the thing enough.
My parents came over to visit - never been to the US before. Because I had to work that week, they went on a trip down the coast, with the GPS guiding them all the way. 10 minutes instruction was all it took to get them started, and they were experts after a few days, putting their own waypoints in etc. You have to understand that my parents really *are* VCR-challenged...
I'd never try and put in directions when the car was moving though - just pull over, type the details, and drive on afterwards. News-flash: driving without looking at the road (no matter what gizmo is involved) is not a good idea...
Simon
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Re:And this is diffrent how? (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyways, I use a GPSMap 60CS [garmin.com] with the car kit, and it is a invaluable, especially when driving around a new city in the dark.
But like anything, you must learn to use it. The GPS tracking itself is extremely accurate, but the maps are somewhat less so. You cannot drive safely or effectively if you watch the GPS too closely, and try to literally trace out your path on the map. Insteaad, you should glance at the GPS and see "OK, I need to get on I-15 going south," and then follow the road signs to do it. You use the GPS to give you knowledge of your next turn, but then you use your eyeballs through the windows to apply it.
Finally, you must not get a new GPS and set out on unfamiliar roads immediately. You need a little practice in your own neighborhood to instantly understand the displays and work the interface. I wonder if the subjects of this study were novice users of the devices? If so, that's a big limitation of the results.
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No they aren't (Score:4, Funny)
Re:No they aren't (Score:4, Funny)
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Yet... (Score:4, Insightful)
However you do navigate, you must plan ahead.
-My $.02
Re:Yet... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Yet... (Score:2)
Audi claimed it was better because you weren't distracted by a map. Personally, I think it was just an excuse for not putting in a map display (especially because the other models very quickly got a map display).
This is true for any in-car device... (Score:3, Informative)
Many car manufacturers are moving towards what BMW has done for the last few model years with in-dash navigation systems: restricting input to when the car is in park. This makes inputing an address to be very troublesome especially when a passenger can do it but it prevents situations like these.
Re:This is true for any in-car device... (Score:2, Informative)
I wish it responded a little more quickly. It's frustrating to wade through those sceerns when you desperately want to get on the road again. I don't really think that it's more distracting than anything else in the car, though. (Radio, CD, Phone, McBurger, girlfriend suddenly shouting "Ooh, look! S
Re:This is true for any in-car device... (Score:4, Informative)
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A shift in driving (Score:5, Insightful)
We need a more active accident avoidance system and other systems to reduce the need for driver intervention. If the driver wants to be less involved in the act of driving, the vehicle will naturally need to take up the slack.
Re:A shift in driving (Score:4, Funny)
I solve that problem by driving everywhere at above-legal speeds.
I wonder if I can use that as an excuse the next time I get pulled over: "Well officer, I was speeding, but I was definitely paying attention to the road!"
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Re:A shift in driving (Score:3, Interesting)
My parents' recent purchase of a Buick Allure has this info centre feature with some settings you can fiddle around. The manual says you must put the gear in park before you can change the settings, and I think this is the best safety feature that GM had made. Now, I don't see a reason why the route for the NAV
Re:A shift in driving (Score:5, Interesting)
What irritates me, though, is if I have a passenger in the car, they can't do anything to the nav while I'm driving. If we suddenly realize we have the wrong address while we're on the freeway? Sorry, can't change it, even though the passenger could just as well do it. I wish they had some kind of weight sensor in the seat to allow that.
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Re:A shift in driving (Score:5, Informative)
- Go to the map menu screen
- Select "volume"
- Tap the upper-left corner then the lower-left corner; repeat three times.
- On the screen that pops up, press and hold "override" until it beeps
- Tap "back"
Now, until you turn the car off, your passenger should be able to use the nav system just fine. You will need to select "guide" after selecting your route, since it will no longer automatically start guiding you when the car starts rolling.
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Re:A shift in driving (Score:3, Insightful)
That is the most retarded kind of lawyer-friendly nannythink possible.
For me, route changes come up ALL the goddamn time when I'm on the road. Driving is rarely predetermined.
Frankly, me finding a goddamn place to pullover and come to a dead stop on the highway shoulder to change the f'in target destination sounds abou
Bad, but solved easily. (Score:3, Funny)
That, and you could mod it to display a perfect set of breasts that bounced very lifelike whenever the vehicle went over a bump. Now there's something I would buy. Ok so that's just a pipe dream... well whatever, I still want the projected display on the windshield damn you!
Puh-leeze... (Score:5, Funny)
"Study Finds Stupid People More Likely to Kill Others When Driving"
And this gem:
Heavens! Relying on Technology! Burn them at the stake!
Ye, Gods.
Re:Puh-leeze... (Score:3, Insightful)
The sad thing is how false that statement is.
Re:Puh-leeze... (Score:5, Interesting)
Relying on technology without any clue will always cause problems. Remember that example years ago when they gave inaccurate calculators to a class of students who were taking a test and only one of them questioned the answers that were coming from his calculator?
My roomate used to drive 18 wheel trucks cross-country. On her first trip, she partnered with another new driver who used to work in the IT field. Needless to say, he loved his technology and ran out and got a GPS card and software for his laptop. He thought this was incredibly cool and paid very close attention to his GPS.
The first problem came when they were switching freeways. Even though he knew he should get over to the right hand side because he knew the exit was coming up, he wouldn't move over until the GPS software told him to. One time he almost missed an exit because the GPS software was a little late in telling him to move over (map inaccuracy, GPS inaccuracy, whatever). Let's just say he was lucky it was late and there was no cop around, because he'd have lost his license and/or caused an accident.
The next time, my roomate was sleeping when she was awakened by city traffic. His mapping software had told him the fastest route was on surface streets, so he obediently got off the freeway. The road narrowed from 8 lanes to four to two. When she looked out from behind the sleeping curtain, he was driving 30 miles per hour while staring at his laptop--not even looking at the road (and, remember, you don't necessarily stop so fast with a 30,000 pound trailer). She decided that if she wanted to live the night, she'd better get out there and get him out of the mess he'd gotten himself into.
Finally, he got completely confused when there was construction and suddenly the place his GPS told him to exit was closed. He had no idea what to do, so he just kept driving. When my roomate woke up a couple of hours later and asked him where they were, he had no clue and the GPS wasn't much help either. She took over the wheel, got off on the next exit, turned the truck back around, and followed the plain ol' paper map to get back to exit he was supposed to take (it was open on the eastbound leg)
When they finally got back, she decided to drive solo. He decided to become a Driver Manager...
Now, in the guy's defense, he'd obviously gotten hold of some crappy software which, at the very least, didn't account for the fact that the vehicle he was driving was not a passenger car. But he became so fixated on doing what the software told him that he didn't pay attention to what the road signs, his training, or just plain ol' common sense told him to do. He would just slavishly follow the computer's instructions.
I've seen MapQuest have the same effect, too. MapQuest seems to like to save you a couple tenths of a mile by making you "drive the hypotenuse." Turn left, turn right, turn left, turn right. If you just zoom the map out a little, you'll see you can just drive a quarter-mile, turn left, and drive another quarter-mile and be there.
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Re:Puh-leeze... (Score:3, Insightful)
I second that one. Before I got a car with GPS, I spent too much time looking in the trees trying to read street signs. It's an easy way to hit the kid on the bicycle crossing from the other way.
Now I watch where I am goi
well this is a problem but.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:well this is a problem but.. (Score:2)
Re:well this is a problem but.. (Score:3, Insightful)
I think that we'd probably both agree that it's not the technology that's at fault. It's the drivers themselves. We're not all bad drivers (and we're certainly not all good drivers) -- however, many of us are easily distract
nav systems (Score:2)
Re:nav systems (Score:2)
However, I just bought a new car, and the system allows me to do whatever I want while cruising down the road... go figure.
Yeah, but... (Score:2)
Oh for the days of the horse and buggy (Score:3, Interesting)
The problem today isn't all the gadgets we have to help us get where we're going, it is the fact that we simply don't have time to do a good job of going anywhere, any time, with any help (or none).
We're being inundated with ways of multi-tasking before we have established the abilities to off-load the major task - that of keeping ourselves and the rest of those around us alive to actually get where we're wanting/needing to be.
We should leave all these distractions (people in the next seat, cell-phones, books on tape, talk-radio, TV, fancy guidance systems, etc.) out of the vehicle until such time as the vehicle can do the driving while we do the rest.
Not possible in some systems (Score:3, Informative)
newsflash (Score:2)
Film at 11
Seriously, this is a non story. In car nav systems are no more dangerous (probably less dangerous) than a fold up map or 8.5"x11" printouts from Google Maps or Mapquest. All are distractions.
I am shocked! (Score:4, Insightful)
If they didn't want to introduce that hazard, they should have designed the system to blank the screen unless the car is in "park". Lost? Pull over and consult the map.
I notice it much more, of course, with cell phones, since you can tell someone is using one. Almost invariably, when I see someone drifting across lanes, or stopping short because they were about to run into another car or a pedestrian, these days, they are chatting on a phone.
The GPS Lady (Score:5, Funny)
"I should have been bought by that other guy"
"You never listen to me"
"My mother told me not to let you buy me"
On and on and on. It's enough to make ya crazy.
The Flipside (Score:4, Insightful)
How about a screen when you boot the device up for the first time ever:
"Please punch in your driver's license number and name, and click 'I Agree' if you agree that any accidents you may have while driving using this navigation system are your responsibility alone, and you agree not to sue us."
It is a godsend... (Score:3, Funny)
The danger is getting a feel for the navi. It is not uncommon for it to yammer on about turning in a complex intersection - usually making you swerve at the last moment, and then swerve again because you (or the navi) made the wrong turn. Never forget that you are the PIC, even if you have no clue where you are. I'll joke with my wife that the navi is just trying to kill me, not get me lost.
Personal Experience (Score:4, Interesting)
The street pilot uses a suction cup to stick to my windshield, and has a chord that plugs into my cigarette lighter. The controls are simple, just a wheel and two buttons. It has a map that shows where I am. When it's not navigating, it shows my speed and direction. When it is navigating, it shows my estimated arrival time, and the distance to my next turn. It also speaks outloud with instructions like "Go 103 miles, then turn left." And then when you get close to the next turn it will say "Go 500 feet and then turn left." It's quick to glance up and see how far I have until I need to be concerned about getting ready to turn/exit. If I forget to tell it where I'm going before I leave, it takes me about 10 seconds to reach up and pick a location from my favorites. I can't imagine typing in an address while driving, but picking a location from a list is much less distracting than trying to read directions on paper while driving.
After getting my GPS, I decided to take an unfamiliar route back to college. I was able to keep my eyes on the road the whole time and I didn't get the least bit lost. Now I take it anytime I go someplace new, and I feel very confident that I'm a safer driver with it than without it.
Oblig: In-Car Navigation Systems Too Distracting? (Score:3, Funny)
misleading headline (Score:3, Insightful)
The headline suggests the system itself causes distraction, when nothing could be further from the truth.
I've used both maps and a navigation system, and the navigation system is about a zillion times better.
If the driver programs the route WHILE DRIVING, the driver is a total moron.
Place blame where it belongs, with the driver, not the technology.
For crying out loud...
Re:misleading headline (Score:3, Interesting)
GPS's and driving distraction -- my experience (Score:3, Informative)
Even though I always try to enter my destination info before actually driving off - I often get in situations where I need to make some changes "on the fly". It's not always really practical to pull off to the side of the road someplace, just to tell it about a new stop you found out you need to get to along the way. As other people said, much of the problem with trying to use a GPS while driving is lack of familiarity with the interface. With mine mounted on my dash in just the right place, I can glance at it quickly or press a few buttons on it quickly without really taking my eyes off the road. But my biggest issue with both units I've used has been an imperfect touch-screen. Sometime you press something and it doesn't respond, or it selects the item above or below the one you tried to pick. Distractions like that can really cause problems.
I also wish they had a little more accurate map data in them! Even though I always bought the latest available map updates for both units I've owned, I've always had numerous problems with it not knowing the correct exit numbers for given highway exits, and cases where it indicated an on-ramp was on my left when it was really coming up on my right (or vice-versa).
They also tend to be bad with long highway exit ramps that split off into 2 different directions at the end of them. (EG. It will tell you "Exit right in 1/4th. mile onto exit 96/97A." But if you don't know for sure if the next instruction is going to be taking 97A vs. 96, it won't tell you until the last few seconds if you need to turn "right" or "left" when the exit forks off in two different directions!)
The Lowrance iWay 500c in particular has been unreliable with "points of interest". I've entered names of restaurants I was looking for, only to be led right up to the driveway of someone's house! (My guess is, they somehow mixed up the restaurant owner's home and business addresses, and took me to the owner's home.) This is especially disturbing considering they use Navteq map data, which is pretty much an "industry standard" for MANY in-car GPS systems.
Re:Quick idea (Score:3, Insightful)
The first thing I thought when the article said that "1 in 10 didn't bother to program the unit before setting out" was that their statistic was measuring the wrong thing AND it was still not an accurate reflection. I only program my GPS about 1 in 10 times, usually only when I am going to a new place, and like most GPS units, it can ONLY be programmed while sitting still. Mine doesn't go off o
Quick correction (Score:3, Funny)
You misspelled "before".
Re:Eyes off the road for 10 seconds @ 60mph? (Score:3, Insightful)
"Eyes off the road" != "driving blind". Peripheral vision is usually adequate for most people to keep the car pointed in the right direction and catch things like brake lights. Looking over at your nav system for 10 seconds at a time is indeed quite possible. You see, it's not a matter of vision, but a matter of attention. Most of the
Re:TomTom or Cell Phone? (Score:3, Interesting)
Honda's factory systems have that. Very star-trekish to bark out commands like "Radio! Tune 620 AM!" or "Audio off!" or "Find nearest gas station!"