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x86 Emulator on PSP Runs Windows & Linux

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sat Aug 13, 2005 06:18 PM
from the because-you-can dept.
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Dan writes "The bochs x86 emulator has been ported to the psp, and allows for x86 disk images to be run.linux and dos images have been confirmed to work."
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  • So, to ask the obvious question... How long will we have to wait before the PSP runs OS X Tiger [slashdot.org]?

  • Seriously, Taco (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:19PM (#13313339)
    Would it be so difficult to actually edit the story blurbs? You know... capitalize the beginning of a sentence? Add a couple spaces?

  • Heh (Score:4, Funny)

    by EvilMonkeySlayer (826044) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:21PM (#13313349) Journal
    Now all they need to do is make a psp emulator for windows and the cycle shall be complete.

    Emulate x86 on a psp running windows and then emulate a psp on it and so on!

    Although it may cause one of those universe destroying events.
    Perhaps Cthulu will rise by running them recursively.

  • Sure it can emulate but how fast? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by kevn (730412) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:28PM (#13313377) Homepage Journal
    Impressive, but nowhere does it say how fast this thing is. What excactly do you end up with? A 486 speed pc at best?

  • games (Score:4, Funny)

    by albertoiii (86778) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:28PM (#13313379)
    Yes! now I can play minesweeper and solitare on my PSP running windows 95.

    plus the bonus underwater level, i've heard its all blue with some white text.

    --- ... signature ...

  • Well, there you go (Score:3, Funny)

    by RazorRaiser (895600) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:29PM (#13313382)
    It can run linux. Now you can stop asking.

  • Bah.. (Score:5, Informative)

    by cybrchrst (535172) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:29PM (#13313384) Homepage
    This won't work for anyone that has upgraded their PSP to anything above 1.0 of the Firmware. A little detail that got left out of the article..

    • Re:Bah.. (Score:4, Informative)

      by Anakron (899671) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:33PM (#13313409)
      The article says it won't run at all on any firmware version above 1.5. He's not sure it'll run on 1.5, though. Have you tested this?
    • It works fine on 1.5. I used the EBOOT converter on his 1.0 eboot and successfully got it to run on 1.5.

  • run.linux? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by game kid (805301) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:30PM (#13313389) Homepage
    "The bochs x86 emulator has been ported to the psp, and allows for x86 disk images to be run.linux and dos images have been confirmed to work."

    For a while I thought that run.linux was the name of a new distro. You submitters, with your odd grammar ways...

  • Awesome... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Jace of Fuse! (72042) on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:30PM (#13313392) Homepage
    This is awesome! I can't wait to play DOS with the D-Pad and fire buttons!

  • The creators site is here (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:31PM (#13313401)
    http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs/ [hacker.co.il]

    Well done, you've managed to post a link to a site that has nothing to do with the creator and is widely despised in the PSP community, nevermind being full of pop-ups and ads.
    • What are these "pop-ups" of which you speak? :)

      Seriously, I just wish someone would make bochs easy to get running under Linux. I've tried and it's just not worth my time. So I keep using VMware.

      Kudos to these guys, though.

      • What difficulties are you having? I run it all the time. I've installed both Fedora and Win2K under it.

        It is important to keep in mind that bochs is an emulator. If you like VMWare, stick with it. Bochs isn't fast.

        On the other hand, I've installed and run bochs on my Sparcbook, and it lets me run that win2K image on a Sparc machine. You can't do that with VMWare.

    • I'm a PSP owner, but not part of the homebrew community, so can you elaborate on why this particular site is despised by the community? They seem to be reporting this guy's work and putting ads all over it just like Slashdot.

      • Re:The creators site is here (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2005, @07:30PM (#13313605)
        1) They frequently post the same story multiple times. Ok, slashdot do this, but pspupdate managed to post this item 3 times.

        2) They have an annoying tendency of not just asking for money but also begging for it

        3) They are now running a pyramid scheme that claims to give people free PSPs

        4) They frequently fail to clearly identify the author and instead of heavily linking the authors site they will put the downloads in their download section making it look a bit like their own work

        5) The forums, if you dare look at them, attract the wrong crowd, and they are not well moderated or looked after

        6) They censor people who dare to say bad things about them

        7) They have a very strange piracy policy, they will quite happily report on pirate releases and not mod the forums while they claim that they are against it.

        I think that more or less covers it.
    • I hate pspupdates as much as the next fellow, but I haven't found a really great alternative (I sort of liked psp-news.dcemu.co.uk until the news poster who was blathering on about OMG TEH EMULATOR EETZ MEMORY KARDZ!!! figured out he could reformat it)... any suggestions?

  • Glad I bought the 1.50 (Score:3, Interesting)

    by British (51765) <british1500@gmail.com> on Saturday August 13 2005, @06:44PM (#13313454) Homepage Journal
    It seems the PSP is doing more and more non-video game stuff, and i love it.

    Now the question is when does that USB keyboard for it(makes it look like a blackberry) come out? That seems like an essential accessory to get with all these fun homebrew apps.

    With wireless connectivity, that + keyboard would make a nice email checker when I'm at a coffee shop. Great timing since my Handspring Visor(which looks like a pong machine compared to my PSP) just went kaput.

  • The people you linked to are the worst scammers (Score:5, Informative)

    by Busshy (907448) on Saturday August 13 2005, @07:38PM (#13313631)
    PSPUpdates.com are a company who are ripping off the homebrew scene with loads of ads/popups and free psp pyramid schemes that are exploiting those who dont know what they are. Please stop linking to them :( Emunnoobs [blogspot.com] has a dossier on these crooks and PSP Emulation News [dcemu.co.uk] would be a much more legit site to look and post PSP Scene news. Come on slashdot newsposters.
  • Now, if you can emulate Windows or Linux, couldn't you theoreticly emulate (almost) and other game console? Once someone makes a reliable Nintendo DS emulator for Linux or Windows, there would be no need for the DS. Unless of course you wanted the extremely sexy dual screens, then you WOULD have to buy a DS. Shame, I was hoping for an All-In-One console.
    • if you can emulate Windows or Linux, couldn't you theoreticly emulate (almost) and other game console?

      If you've got a system that has a hard time running Windows 95, you don't have enough effective speed to run most other game consoles under it. You might be able to run an Atari 2600 or maybe an NES, but not the SNES. Emulating a Nintendo DS or any other recent console is going to take eleet programming to run well on even the newest hardware, much less a recent console. Don't even think about trying to run
      • Actually, it is much more CPU intensive to emulate the Atari 2600 than the SNES. And most modern NES emulators run much slower than ZSnes. Even the speedy NES emulators, like Nesticle and Loopynes will far too slow to even consider. This is Bochs we're talking about here, and on a High-Speed pentium 4, you can't get a decent framerate even in the fastest emulators.
      • Yeah, excellent points. My favorite games for the DS right now are Meteos and Kirby's Canvas Curse, and I just can't imagine playing any of them in emulation (certainly not on a PSP, but not on a PC either with the mouse being used to emulate the stylus). It just wouldn't be the same.

    • Re:How useful... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2005, @07:41PM (#13313638)
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    • Re:How useful... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Shaper_pmp (825142) on Sunday August 14 2005, @09:13AM (#13315910)
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      The best bit it that you've picked the most retarded choice of target - Slashdot is generally frequented by technical types, and we're exactly the types who:

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      • It has a MIPS R4000 processor as its main processor(if I recall correctly) underclocked at 222mhz. The software dictates its clock speed, which can be as high as 333mhz.

        As of right now, I think it is actually slower than a 486 due to the emulation not being totally optimized. If it's possible tap into the graphics processor of the PSP I would expect a significant increase in performance.

      • Re:PSP Os (Score:5, Informative)

        by corsec67 (627446) on Saturday August 13 2005, @08:54PM (#13313868) Homepage Journal
        Actually, the psp is a little bit different.

        Of the 32 megs of RAM in the system, when a game is playing, 8 are dedicated to the OS. Games can run many things that are in the OS, such as save/load, keyboard, network.
      • Those days are largely over. More complicated games require more abstraction from the hardware, and the hardware now has to manage TCP, wireless, memory sticks, etc. The resulting code starts looking a lot like an OS.
    • Maby you're new here...

      We here at slashdot are nerds... now i'm a mac fan and love macs to death, but Bochs on PSP is damn cool. I think you need to go discover AvrilLavigne.net or some other pop culture portal, perhaps MTV.com... you're clearly in the wrong place.

      Another thing.. bashing Linux here usually gets tagged as flamebait... if you want to garner any respect, you'll likely have to not bash Linux unless you're posting in an article itself pointing out a Linux flaw.

      Lastly, spelling and spacing are i

    • Re:Who TF Cares?!?!?!?! (Score:4, Funny)

      by Mongoose (8480) on Sunday August 14 2005, @12:49AM (#13314861) Homepage
      I can answer that -- I'm the fucking mongoose, and I run Linux.
    • That's not the reason it won't work. PearPC provides a virtual PowerPC, that you then can install (PowerPC) OS X on, or any PowerPC OS. Bochs provides a virtual x86, that you then can install any x86 OS on, like (x86) OS X. (this is ignoring unknown challanges yet to be seen, but in theory...)

      But you're not going to install OS X on the PSP because OS X requires a lot more memory than Windows 98, and the PSP doesn't have it.

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