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Japan Displays Prototype Robot Suit
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samzenpus
on Wed Jun 08, 2005 08:09 PM
from the robotech-lite dept.
from the robotech-lite dept.
anaesthetica writes "A project at Tsukuba University has produced a battery-powered robot suit designed to aid the wearer in strength-related tasks, like lifting heavy objects. The suit also has the capability of propelling itself, which is potentially useful for helping the handicapped or elderly walk. The optimistic professor who lead the project stated, 'Humans may be able to mutate into supermen in the near future.'"
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OzPeter writes "The Age is reporting that two experienced mountain climbers will wear Japanese HAL exoskeletons to assist in carrying a quadriplegic and a muscular dystrophy sufferer to the summit of a Swiss mountain. Although they will be starting only 280 meters below the summit, it will still be an impressive feat." Slashdot covered the HAL exoskeleton late last year.
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We all saw what happened to the X-Men (Score:3, Funny)
This might be a problem for the humans involved though... We all saw what happened to the X-Men.
Holy crap! (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:We all saw what happened to the X-Men (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah... just like remote controls were able to mutate us into being able to control electronic equipment with our minds.
Rise of the Suits?! (Score:2, Funny)
Coming soon to theatres, Terminator 4: Rise of the Suits
Re:Rise of the Suits?! (Score:2)
Obviously... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Obviously... (Score:3, Informative)
First Generation Technology... (Score:5, Funny)
Discussed Previously (Score:2)
Why dont the use EAPs (Score:2, Interesting)
I dunno... (Score:5, Funny)
But since she's not that much of a payload, the pictures might as well be of a guy wearing a Stormtrooper costume doing deep knee bends.
Re:I dunno... (Score:2, Funny)
My thoughts exactly. I want to see the samll Japanese woman put on the suit and pick him up. Better yet, I want to see her pick up a car, or a 16 foot tall egg-laying alien queen.
Re:I dunno... (Score:5, Funny)
Have you not seen Japanese anime before? The dorky guy always gets his butt kicked by the schoolgirls. The dorky guy needs a power suit to protect himself when tangling with the opposite sex.
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scary (Score:5, Funny)
Re:scary (Score:2)
Stephen Hawking (Score:2)
Yet another successful prediction [paralinks.net] by The Onion [theonion.com]!
Be careful, though. (Score:5, Funny)
Fogeys in Robot suits (Score:5, Interesting)
Japan has seen a growing market for technology geared toward the elderly, who are making up an increasing chunk of the population as fewer younger Japanese choose to start families.
A government report last week showed that pensioners made up a record 19.5 percent of the country's population in 2004 and that the ratio will grow rapidly, surpassing 35 percent in 2050.
Did anyone else shudder at the image of senior citizens ambling down the street in robot suits? Just imagine the damage potential.
Re:Fogeys in Robot suits (Score:2)
Bah, don't worry about it. They won't make it past ten miles an hour, regardless of what the suits can do. I'm more worried about the damage potential of a kid of the punk-ass variety.
What about cars? (Score:3, Interesting)
Note: I have no beef with 99.9% of the senior population but my car was totaled by a member of the remaining 0.1% a few years back by him pulling onto a main street with blinders on. Daylight too. Luckily the old man survived without permanent injury. However, he'd have been better off letting someone else drive.
Bubblegum Crisis? (Score:3, Insightful)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubblegum_Crisis [wikipedia.org]
Re:Bubblegum Crisis? (Score:4, Interesting)
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It Should Be Popular.... (Score:5, Funny)
Finally (Score:5, Funny)
On a related note, check out the Japanese booth babes on the slide show.
(Just kidding honey, if you're reading this.)
Uses... (Score:2, Funny)
In related news... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:In related news... (Score:3, Funny)
I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.
C'mon HAL, I really gotta go!
I'm sorry Dave, you should have thought of that before we left.
HAL, you're really starting to piss me off.
And so on and so forth, until Dave is electrocuted when he finally loses control of his bladder ("My God, it's full of sparks!").
Semi-useful (Score:3, Insightful)
Lift "heavy loads" (Score:5, Funny)
Saving lives would a nice use.... (Score:2, Interesting)
The tide is turning... (Score:5, Funny)
Supermen? (Score:5, Funny)
Ironicly, I just got Viagra Spam that used that exact same phrasing...
Wait till you see what happens.. (Score:5, Funny)
Sheesh - a geek alright... (Score:3, Funny)
good way to lose a hand... (Score:5, Insightful)
Remind me again why you would want to be able to have superhuman strength when all it's going to do is cause you to smash a body part if not amputate yourself by accident.
"Robot suit?!" (Score:3, Informative)
Sheesh.
I'll Be Impressed (Score:3, Funny)
when I see this guy pick up an AMERICAN girl instead of a tiny Japanese girl! A FAT American girl!
Thank God, just in time... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:That's a transformer (Score:2, Funny)
Mod Parent (-1, Lack of Reading Comprehension) (Score:4, Informative)
FTA:
The 15-kilogram (33-pound) battery-powered suit, code-named HAL-5, detects muscle movements through electrical-signal flows on the skin surface and then amplifies them. It can also move on its own accord, enabling it to help elderly or handicapped people walk, developers said.
Thanks for playing.
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Handicapped people don't have those signals (Score:3, Interesting)
I suppose if you expanded the group of "handicapped" to include those suffering from polio and other diseases that result muscular dystrophy, then I can see this argued, but paraplegics and quadraplegics are not going to be helped, despite the claims of the article.
And I'll take -1 Offtopic again for saying so.
Re:Handicapped people don't have those signals (Score:4, Insightful)
> "handicapped" to include those suffering from
> polio and other diseases that result muscular
> dystrophy...
It's strange definition of 'handicapped' that excludes those people.
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Re:Handicapped people don't have those signals (Score:4, Insightful)
Walking, it ain't.
Semantics. Clearly they wouldn't be walking in the classic sense of the word, but they'd be repeating the same action, bipedal movement. They just wouldn't be triggering the movement with their own legs, but via another source. I assure you that everyone doing it will refer to it as 'walking' as opposed to "being carried" or "motiled". People want to focus on what they can do, not what they can't, so they'll want to use the most positive term, which in this case would be, walking.
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Using this technology for police work (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Using this technology for warfare. (Score:2)
How? The only things I can think of that help against such guerilla tactics are good armor and staying alert. Anyhow, who needs super strength when you have good ol' firepower?
Well, that's the WHOLE point (Score:5, Insightful)
Which is exactly why and what for: to enable soldiers to carry more armour and dish out more firepower.
Don't think for a moment that military applications of super-strength will mean Superman-style punching villains in the face. It won't. Ever.
However a major topic throughough the last century has been the weight of ammo and equipment a soldier has to carry. It's a real issue. That's one of the reasons (among other factors) why we've moved to smaller calibres.
Put some powered armour on those soldiers and suddenly they can carry a lot more heavy weaponry and ammo.
Individual armour has also been discarded precisely because of weight considerations: you _could_ make a breastplate that could stop a rifle round, but it was impractically heavy.
Now think the other way around: if you have an armoured exo-skeleton, you can carry enough armour at least over the vital organs to stop even a 7.62mm round or shrapnel from hand grenades and pipe bombs. _And_ this time it's without a mobility penalty.
You've just made life harder for the enemy soldiers, because now they need to lug around bigger weaponry to take you out, which limits _their_ mobility.
But perhaps more importantly, and this is really what makes it a wet dream for the military is: enabling soldiers to carry more electronics and a sattellite connection. Giving at least one soldier per squad enough electronics to know exactly where the enemy is, what's happening, where is the squad needed, what should they avoid, etc, is something that can give a _huge_ advantage.
Nations have been defeated before because basically their chain of command didn't react fast enough. E.g., that's why large armies like those of France or Poland crumbled in the face of Blitzkrieg in WW2. They just weren't prepared to react at that speed.
Or the USSR in WW2 was massively handicapped by their lack of radios on their tanks.
Now picture giving each squad a direct link to their officers _all_ the time. Bidirectional. You can know _exactly_ what's happening at each point, in real time, and the soldiers can know exactly what's expected of them. You can instantly see when your troops are being pinned and flanked, and how, and you can tell them exactly how to counter it. Better yet they too can see a bigger picture and react in a more intelligent manner.
It's something that can really make or break a battle.
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Re:Well, that's the WHOLE point (Score:4, Informative)
First, it isn't so much about the weight that someone needs to carry to handle these weapons, it is the recoil. The reason a
More electronics = better chance of detection.
Infantry is supposed to be invisible. That's why they put all that fancy makeup on their faces - so they blend in. If they radiate a lot in the EM spectrum, someone is going to detect it and drop a few white phosphorus artillery rounds on them. Also, (as someone else pointed out earlier), there aren't power-ups behind every tree, and batteries weigh a LOT. Infantry is also great because they don't need much in the way of logistics. They can walk out with a heavy pack and be fine for 2 weeks. They might come back tired, dirty and hungry, but they don't need a fuel truck every 2 days to keep moving.
I agree with you that situational awareness is incredibly important, and that the best plans fall apart upon enemy contact. However, there is also a thing called information overload. If a squad leader is worried about what the rest of the platoon is doing, they aren't focused on what their squad is doing. If they are paying attention to what the individual squad members are doing, they aren't using their fire team leaders. It is a delicate balancing act. Too much info can mean the important details are missed. Not enough info can also hurt.
Personally, I think powered armor of some sort is a great idea for a Military Operations in Urban Terrain (MOUT) environment. Since there is fighting house-to-house and block-to-block, the logistics are much simpler. Also, with heavier armor, a "standard" bullet can be ignored. BTW - There is body armor out there that will stop a 7.62mm round from an AK-74 at close range (less than 10 meters), and they are pretty heavy, but not when compared to a full load on an infantryman. The real risk is keeping the wearer cool enough since no air can circulate around the torso. When considering ambient temperature during training exercises, the presence of a standard flak jacket is considered to be a +15 degree fahrenheit modifier.
For those who care, I was in the US Marine infantry for 4 years, as a rifleman and as a member of their Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team. I graduated from the Marine Security Forces school and from the Designated Marksman School (similar to a SWAT team sniper) and I graduated 3rd in my class at the Advanced Infantry School at Camp Pendelton. While I don't think I am an expert in all things military, or even infantry combat, I think I know what I am talking about.
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Re:Using this technology for warfare. (Score:2)
Re:Using this technology for warfare. (Score:5, Funny)
the combat environment is more complex and demanding than the loading dock and you won't find power-ups hidden behind every crate.
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Re:I'll take two... (Score:4, Funny)
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