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Dell Notebooks Catch On Fire!

Posted by CmdrTaco on Thu May 03, 2001 12:16 PM
from the now-that-kicks dept.
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Mr_Person writes "Dell Computer will recall about 284,000 notebook batteries due to a flaw in batteries incorporated in Inspiron 5000 and 5000(e) notebooks. The flaw causes the batteries to produce excessive amounts of heat, in fact, at least one notebook has even gotten to the point of catching on fire!" I thought the worst part of Dell Laptops was the fact that they broke all the time, and that they billed me for months after I shipped them the laptop back claiming they never got it. Maybe you could use Dell Laptops as an alternate heat source, what with rising gas prices *rimshot*
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  • Re:Please... (Score:5)

    by Russ Steffen (263) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:57AM (#248055) Homepage

    If Dell eus this recall like they did the previous battery recall, it will work like this:

    1. You register for a replacement battery
    2. They ship a new battey out to you.
    3. You put your old battery in the box the new one came in, and slap on the included prepaid shipping lable.
    4. Send it back to Dell

    It worked out pretty well then.

  • Yep, Dell makes some pretty good laptops, although I have a couple of issues with my Latitude CPxH that really prevent me from recommending them to my friends.

    1. These suckers get hot. If you leave the machine in your lap and do some work, you will be sweating in a half hour or less, even in a cold room. Unfortunatly, this appears to be a feature of all PII and PIII based laptops I've tried so far.
    2. Screen marks. This is the real killer, some of the keys on the keyboard (spacebar especially) sometimes work loose a little and leave perminant marks on the screen (when the lid is closed, the keys rub on the screen). I've seen this on several models of Latitudes now, from the old P166 to the new PIII500s.
    3. Flaky graphics on the newer machines. The ATI Rage mobility is a mediocre card with horrendous Windows drivers. I got tired of reading ATIDRAB.DLL on the BSODs after awhile, and the backing store on the pointer frequently got messed up and effectivly hid the pointer. The TV-out is a nice touch though, I wish more laptops had it.
    4. This isn't the first time there's been problems with batteries from Dell, these Latitudes had the exact same problem (although it was caught before any laptop cought fire last time). Dell needs to ditch this battery manufacturer.
    5. The screws that holds the keyboard flush with the case tend to work their way out after awhile. This is pretty minor except that the arrow keys get really mushy and insensitive if you don't keep on top of it.
    6. Only two buttons on the trackpad. Sony and HP figured it out, why can't you Dell?
    7. The docking station for these guys is flaky. Mine seem to die about every 6 months or so, and I take good care of it. The sound passthrough doesn't work right at all, and serial port traffic is very spotty through the dock (I've put my palm cradle on another machine because the Dell was never able to successfully finish syncing before losing connection).
    8. Dell does ship a fairly nice DVD drive (a Toshiba, much better than the Mitsumis on the HPs), no complaints there
    9. There's only one PS/2 port on the back, which seems commonplace with laptops these days, although I can't figure out why. USB mice and keyboards aren't really available in numbers yet, and if you hook up a keyboard, you are almost certainly going to hook up a mouse. Serial mice are getting pretty hard to find these days as well, and it's not like there isn't enough room on the back to shoehorn another PS/2 port in there.
      1. Well, this is probablly more than anybody wanted to read. If you have the impression that I wouldn't really recommend any laptop on the market right now, you'd probably be right, although I'd love for someone to prove me wrong on that last point. :)


    Down that path lies madness. On the other hand, the road to hell is paved with melting snowballs.
  • Damn, now I'm a little annoyed that my Latitude wasn't subject to the recall. :)

    There's another side to this. Laptop batteries degrade slowly over time. I certainly noticed this. When I first got my laptop I could play a full DVD and half of another one before the battery would start getting low. Now I'm only barely finishing the first one before it's time to swap batteries. Too bad the battery charger puts so much noise on the audio lines (there is a definate warbling hum on the speakers when I plug the laptop into the TV) and I have to run it off of battery power to watch DVDs.

    Down that path lies madness. On the other hand, the road to hell is paved with melting snowballs.
  • Do you call your workstation a desk?

  • Inspiron Owner Tips (Score:5)

    by Kostya (1146) on Thursday May 03 2001, @09:28AM (#248061) Homepage Journal
    I'm sure you already figured this out, but just in case and for others out there ...

    (I own a 5000)

    Tip #1 Never place your laptop on a bed, on cushy upholstery, soft carpet, comforter, etc. for long periods of time or operation

    If you want to fry your laptop, your couch, or your own leg (i.e. under a comforter), that's the fastest way. From what I can gather, the laptop is designed to radiate heat downward. When you place it on an insulator like a carpet, a bed, or a comforter, it gets hot REALLY fast.

    Yes, it is a laptop. But I wouldn't recommend curling up with it on a cold night with your favorite quilt--unless your heat is out.

    Tip #2 Fan == "Danger Will Robinson!"

    Shortly after owning my laptop, I noticed that the little fan in the back would come on and turn off. One day, the area under the Enter key was super hot--I could feel it through my keyboard. I ejected my modem and ethernet cards and I couldn't hold them they were so hot! I grew worried (I really love this laptop) and so I called support thinking my fan was busted. The info I go was shocking.

    The standard operating temperature for the processor is 150F. The fan kicks on only if the processor is starting to operate out of the spec'd range of "standard". If your processor starts getting up around 180F, the fan kicks on to cool it off.

    Those numbers are based on memory, but they feel right (i.e. by how hot my cards get ).

    Now, I don't care how many assurance that Dell tech gave me--180F is not a Good Thing[tm]. When I hear my fan kick on, I usually give my laptop a quick look-over to make sure I can't do anything to help it cool down. Proping the back end up on a book *might* help.

    Needless to say, if your fan is on for a long time, you might want to check on your laptop. OTOH, maybe your just cracking distribited.net blocks ;-)

    (disclaimer: I am in no way responsible for anything stupid or reasonable you do with your own laptop; take or ignore this advice at your own risk)

    All that being said, I really dig my 5000. I loaded it up with a crap load of memory and a big HDD--it is a great development tool on the Commuter rail. I just always make sure to score a table in the middle of the double-decker cars. My right leg is getting scorched (kidding).

  • Finally a long last programmer's dream is fulfilled. Finally there is a comp on which one can fry eggs.
    For nearly 20 years people often dreamed, after long hours of hard work, about eating some snack right on the workplace. This dream was frequently remarked by the claiming that the "comp is so hot that one can fry some bacon with eggs". However the real temperatures where still well below the desired values. It was hard even to boil water and only a few brave overclockers could manage to achieve this. So one had always to rise his a.. to get some hot food.

    Today that dream is reality...
  • Ah, yes, Dell, so very proud of wresting the education sales crown from Apple, I just can't wait until the first schoolkid gets burned by one of their laptops and the hordes of lawyers descend.
    Why not? Dell is not a monopoly, they won it fair and square. The fact of the matter is that Dell is able to deliver a better value to the schools than Apple can with their propreitary systems. Just because Apple does some things very well does not mean they deserve endangered species status. While I do not agree with the "close down" sentiments entirely, you should realize that Dell was competing against Apple at the time and that there is some truth to that statement. The only reason that Apple has managed to stay alive is because they've been able to carve out a niche for themselves. If they had to compete neck and neck against Dell's wintel business model, they would have been utterly crushed long ago with their small economies of scale, proprietary hardware, higher inventories, lesser utilized OS, etc.

    Also gotta love that they are continuing their stringent QC from a year or two ago when they shipped CD-ROM modules for their Latitudes that did not fit any Dell laptop that was in production at the time. That was a real fun time for me where I worked. What I don't understand is, when Dell is just a me-too cloner bolting parts together and not innovating a thing, how can they not even be able to do that right and still stay in business?
    Dell is hardly just a "me too" cloner. The fact of the matter is that they dominate the OEM computer market. It is not accident. They have excellent manufacturing systems, very low inventory (a huge issue in the industry), testing technology, high reliability, etc. In short, they're an economic powerhouse that is worthy of considerable respect. Sure, they have had a few slipups, but so have other manufacturers. They, unlike others, have quickly and fairly resolved the problems, so what's the beef?

    Furthermore, not all of their systems require zero innovation, their laptops and servers are all significantly customized and require a fair amout of engineering efforts.
  • I put in a request for a new battery today (I have an I5000, and despite what Taco may say, it's been a great machine. Even survived a couple drops with no damage...), and it appears to work like this:

    They send me a new one.

    I send back my potentially pyrotechnic one.

    When they get my old one, they send me *another* one.

    So, I get two batteries out of this recall.
    I'm happy.

    C-X C-S

  • Re:lol (Score:5)

    by TWR (16835) on Thursday May 03 2001, @12:30PM (#248071)
    It wasn't an overheating problem; it was a defect in the design of the LiIon batteries Apple had purchased from Sony. Back in 1995, Apple was trying to be one of the first companies to use LiIon batteries in a laptop. Sony made the batteries for the 5300 and 190, and the rest became flaming history.

    After the week-long recall, Apple replaced the LiIon battery with a NiMH one and cut the price by $100.

    The PowerBook 5300 might be one of the worst computers Apple ever released. Everything that could go wrong with a design did go wrong. The original System software was so buggy, Apple posted an entire updated disk set for the 5300 up on its web site. The hinges broke, the power adapters would snap off, the casing around the screen would separate, the PC cards wouldn't eject properly...it was a mess. To top it off, performance sucked. No L2 cache meant that the CPU was constantly starved. Add in a 33MHz system bus, and you've got one heck of a problem computer.

    Before my 5300 developed problems, I had been a huge proponent of them, but after my 5300 broke many, many times (something like 8 times in 18 months), I was disgusted and called Apple, demanding that they do something about it. They did. I was sent, for free, a PowerBook 1400 in exchange for that defective 5300. Apple won me as a permanent fan that day.

    The 1400 is still working today. I've upgraded the CPU and hard drive, added Ethernet and Wireless cards, and it keeps on humming along well enough to prevent me from buying a new laptop to replace it (I did buy a new iMac, but portability is nice). That new iBook is looking awfully tempting, though.

    -jon

  • A co-worker of mine accidently left his 5K on the roof of his car after a house-call. Consequently the laptop slid off the roof and bounced down the road. Some nice soul picked it up and returned it. The only thing that seemed to be wrong with it was the ribbon between the vidcard and lcd was torn. Next day Dell sent a tech. (And we live right next door to East BumFsck rural area) They fixed up the box and thing is still cranking along.. Now hows that for reliability and responsibility for Dell... Now Their Financial institution is a completely different story...
  • I don't recall you beating your chest when this happened to a TEST MODEL that never left the lab of the subcontractor that made the batteries for Apple.

    The hypocracy is so glaring, i'm putting on my sunglasses.

    Dell should take as much shit as Apple had to take... for once in their lives.
  • Several months ago I made two large purchases. First, I bought a brand new 950MHz Athlon and 384 megs of RAM for my desktop machine, and then a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop.

    When the laptop arrived, I immediately stopped using my desktop machine. I also stopped using my machine at work. I now do absolutely everything on this laptop because it is simply amazing and wonderful and good in every possible way. It does get fairly warm after extended use, but it's not what I'd call hot.

    So far, I'm extremely pleased with this machine. It's never failed me once.

    --

  • Call me a nerd. Call me anal. But a rimshot is when the drum stick hits the rim of a drum typically the snare. What effect you're looking for is the double tom shots followed by a crash. Perhaps it could be represent with ba-dump chshhhh. I dunno. But people show that they have no idea what they're talking about when they start referring to that particular device as a rimshot. It's not.
  • I've got an old Dell laptop (a 133MHz Latitude XPi) that has seen heavy use over its years, and it still runs as good today as it did when it came rolling off the assembly line. I basically use it for Internet browsing from the porch, the backyard, etc. (it's running Linux and equipped with a Lucent 802.11b PC card.) It works flawlessly; I have never had a problem with this machine .. nor have I had problems with any other Dell laptop I've used. To suggest that there is some sustained defect in these machines is sheer lunacy.

    As a result, I now order Dell exclusively when I need new machines. I recently placed on order for a Dimension 4100 on a late Saturday afternoon, and it arrived on my doorstep the following Friday morning. Four business days for processing, building, testing, and shipping a new desktop. Pretty damned impressive, if you ask me.

    Sure, there are plenty of companies in this business that deserve to be harassed and poked fun at, but Dell is not one of them.
  • I just agreed to keep a Dell Latitude here at work. I really wanted one of the Apple Titanium G4s but it's a long story. That laptop gets pretty dang toasty. I wonder if this will turn out to be like the Firestone tires. Independant reviewers find that more than just the few models the manufacturer lists are vulnerable.

    Now not to diminish Dell's fault or anything like that in this matter, but Apple had a similar issue a long while back. I believe the faulty batteries were in the PowerBook 5300 line that was introduced over 5.5 years ago. The problem was found quickly and the faulty type of batteries were replaced with another type. They didn't cause a fire but they could get hot enough under the right conditions to melt the battery casing or the case of the laptop. I've got a Sparc laptop at home (we call it the Sparcable) that weighs like 30lbs. Basically it's an IPC in a slightly smaller case with a battery and a screen attached. You cannot stand to have that thing on your laptop. Your legs will be nice and tanned after five minutes with that puppy.

    --

  • Absolutely true... but don't you think it's strange (or at least, extremely unprofessional) for a news website that covers PC hardware not to disclose anywhere that is owned, even indirectly by VA Linux? And even if we cannot get that fig leaf of professional journalism, what about a simple disclosure on blatantly negative posts about VA Linux competitors? Something like "Dell laptops break all the time, but I should tell you that I am an employee of a direct Dell competitor"?

    People rag on MSNBC for their Microsoft coverage, but every single MSNBC article I've read on Microsoft properly discloses their part-ownership by MS --this despite that the name of the site is a compound of "Microsoft".

  • Oh, shut up already... (Score:5)

    by costas (38724) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:44AM (#248084) Homepage
    ... I've owned and administered dozens of Dells. I've had few if any problems, and always, always Dell has provided excellent support --and more than half the time they did't need to: support.dell.com absolutely kicks ass.

    But interestingly enough, I am typing this on a broken Dell laptop --ironic isn't it? This machine is completely hosed, it will BSOD if you move it an inch (external keyboards rule).

    Anyway, it's my first truly broken Dell machine --ever. A corporate machine, purchased in Minneapolis for our company office in Atlanta. I am sitting right now in an apartment in Thessaloniki, Greece, 7,000 miles away from this machine's "home". I hang up the phone with US Dell Support an hour ago (collect). Dell has promised me that they will have a technician *on site* with a new motherboard *tomorrow morning*.

    I will be sure to post Dell's performance here tomorrow. In the mean time, CmdrT., you may want to go tell VA that they have a long way to go to compete with these guys...
  • I have nothing but positive things to say
    about Dell laptops. I have had this laptop
    for over a year now. It has performed flawlessly.
    I had to have the keyboard and mouse buttons
    replaced a while ago, because I plain wore them out.
    They came out 48 hours after my initial call and replaced them in 5
    minutes.. no questions asked. Yes the notebook does get a bit warm but
    I dont think it would ever catch fire. After a year+ the battery still lasts 3 1/2
    hours which is pretty good considering it originally lasted 4 hours. I am very
    pleased how dell is handeling this recall. The fact that I am going to
    get two batteries for the one I return is amazing. I will definatly buy all
    my future laptops from dell and recommend them to all my friends.

    Malice95

  • Yahoo as a news source. (Score:3)

    by MustardMan (52102) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:43AM (#248086)
    It always makes me laugh when I read one of these yahoo stories with glaring grammatical and/or spelling errors. Slashdot is one thing; it's a weblog that's SUPPOSED to be a buncha nerds arguing over crap and being opinionated. Yahoo (and Cnet, which is where the article actually came from), however, are attempting to be credible news sources.
    Sentences like "Dell agreed to replace the memory was replaced free of charge." do not help the crediblity of Yahoo and Cnet.

    Disclaimer:
    I am not a grammar nazi. It's quite likely that this post contains grammatical errors. I, however, am not claiming to be a news source. Your mileage may vary. Removing this screw may void your warranty. MSRP based on standard package. Power windows, air, and seats extra. #include

  • Break? (Score:3)

    by taniwha (70410) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:26AM (#248096) Homepage Journal
    I love my 7000 laptop - keeps me toasty warm on those long nights :-) Seriosly though I've had no problems - it's one of the best Linux laptops I've used - has a great APM implementation (unlike the brand new IBM I have at work whicxh despite it's lovely display freezes whenever I try and suspend it)
  • I'm still trying to decide why everyone hates Dell laptops.

    I looked over dozens of laptops before I bought mine, and the Dell won out in EVERY catagory, without even a close second contender.

    Not even CLOSE.

    It was a bit more expensive, but IMHO it was worth the money.

    In the end, I only have three complains about my Insperon 5000e.

    The first of which is that it's very loud... the fan and the hard drive clicking... I can't stand it. It's louder than my deskdop. But it's a minor complaint.

    The scond complaint is that the built in speakers aren't that good. They're not as bad as some that I've heard, but they could be much better.

    The last complaint is that I have to keep a fire extinguisher next to my laptop.

    "Everything you know is wrong. (And stupid.)"
  • What if they chose batteries with fine specs, but Panasonic put out a run of them that was of lower quality? Would you still blame Dell then?

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  • What do you mean, hard to find USB keyboards and mice? That's all I ever use, and i never really have to look...

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  • Obligitory Slashdot Joke... (Score:3)

    by EXTomar (78739) on Thursday May 03 2001, @10:34AM (#248103)
    Can you imagine a Beowolf cluster of these Dell laptops? You can probably bbq an entire heard of cattle!
  • I didn't think that after the Apple adventure any other company would make laptops (or notebooks) that could catch on fire.

    Well, it was a first for Apple [go2mac.com]... sadly of course.

  • huck huck (Score:3)

    by emufreak (83564) on Friday May 04 2001, @06:38AM (#248108) Homepage
    I have a Dell laptop and it's only broken down once. The return time was extremely fast (a few days), and they didn't bill me for anything.

    I'm still trying to decide why everyone hates Dell laptops.
  • Bump this to number 2 on list of things to have on a desert island:

    1. Jamie Presley
    2. Dell Laptop - new with built in survivor kit!
    3. Fresh water

    ...
  • Speaking of such things, has anyone else noticed (or been expiriencing) that moderation points are being handed out like they're going out of style? I've be a moderator 4 times in the last three weeks, and so have many others. This happening to anyone else out there?


    The Good Reverend
    I'm different, just like everybody else. [michris.com]
  • The US and British governments should get ahold of these for their spy agencies...they could set their laptops to self-destruct every time they're lost.
    The Good Reverend
    I'm different, just like everybody else. [michris.com]

  • Mine laptop gets hot, too... (Score:3)

    by smoondog (85133) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:30AM (#248114)
    I have a inspiron 7500 and this beast can get *very* hot. I have a habit sometimes of leaving it on after work and commuting while using it as an MP3 Player in my car stereo. When I get it home, sometimes it is so hot I cant touch any of the metal ports on the back and it is hard to type! Needless to say, I don't do that much anymore...

    -Moondog

  • Likewise, I bought myself an inspiron 4000 six months ago, stuck in a debian install disk and haven't had a single problem with it since then.

    The only gripe I do have is that the price has dropped about $500 since then *grumble*.

    So yeah, keep your VA fud to yourself.
  • Dell didnt design the Inspirion 5000 or 5000e. Compal [compal.com] did. Both computers are rebadged Compal N30W [compal.com] series machines. I know because I'm typing this message on one :) (mine's sold as the MilwaukeePC [milwaukeepc.com] Nomad 1500) It gets hot, and ironically enough when I need an extra battery I borrow one from my friend who has an Inspiron 5000 :) To the point: WILL MY INSPIRON CLONE CATCH FIRE? I dont know if we use the same battery vendors, but they're certainly compatible.

  • Yeah, I'm on my 3rd keyboard and LCD screen on my 1 year old Inspirion 3700. The current LCD (#3) is broken and only works intermittently, but I just hooked up an old monitor I had lying around and am using that when the LCD is illegible. The keyboard seems to have stayed fixed this time though so hooray for that.

    So, in short, don't but Dell laptops. It the like the computer version of Russian Roulette.

  • HCF (Score:3)

    by cardhead (101762) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:40AM (#248123) Homepage
    Ob Ref to Jargon File: The problem seems to be with the implementation of the HCF instruction: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/HCF.h tml [tuxedo.org]
  • I was thinking about picking out a laptop as my new firewall, I guess the Dell Inspiron 5000 is the one for me!

    haha! ok that didn't make any sence...

  • Not the first battery recall for Dell! (Score:3)

    by Dman33 (110217) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:55AM (#248125)
    Dell is quite familiar with this sort of thing. Last time, it was the Latitude notebooks that were going up in flames. The details from the horse's mouth can found here [dell.com].
  • It's completely Dell's fault, as they were the ones who designed a system that can CATCH FIRE when used under normal circumstances, because they failed to do adequate research into the specs on the batteries.
    Bullshit. For this particular model, Dell is just sales and support. The laptops (5000e at least -- don't know about the plain 5000) were designed and manufactured by Compal. The batteries are manufactured (and presumably designed) by Panasonic. The external power supply is made by Delta, a well-known P.S. vendor. Everything about this machine is private-labeled by other OEMs for Dell.

    That said, Dell did offer a warranty and does seem to be making good on it.

  • This is yet another example of how the Apple Macintosh has led the industry and everyone else follows.

    Apple had flaming Mac PowerBooks years ago. PC vendors are just now getting around to copying.
  • Dell has promised me that they will have a technician *on site* with a new motherboard *tomorrow morning*.

    I've worked tech support for a fairly large company. For three years we'd have dell in a couple times a month to fix laptops. Dell is very happy to come, to wherever you are, tommorow morning and replace a piece of hardware. If that piece of hardware doesn't fix the problem, they'll come out with Another piece of hardware (let's try the CPU now...), and if the problem persists, they'll be at your door the next day replacing something else (memory this time?), and if you still have a problem (my laptop freezes up) they'll come out and try again (maybe the second motherboard was faulty).

    In the end, if they do fix the problem, you're set. If it isn't hardware problem though, they waste so much time of your time trying to replace the hardware. The repair guys usually won't even look at the software to fix the problem.

    Of course, support.dell.com is an awsome support site. And dell shows up at your door ASAP with parts. And if you break the tab off your lid, they'll come out and replace it. And if you phone them and tell them the display is too dim, they'll come replace that too (do that before your warrenty expires.. they tend to fade with time) Dirty keyboard? Call dell for a new one.. keyboard sticks. Trackball/Pad sucks? They'll come fix that too.

    But, if you have a computer that "locks up randomly" you're pretty much scrwed. m$ won't support you because it is OEM and Dell will just keep replacing harware.

    Maybe running linux on dell is better than windows, unfortunatly the company i worked at wasn't ready for that...

  • lol (Score:5)

    by vsync64 (155958) <vsync@quadium.net> on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:19AM (#248158) Homepage
    This reminds me of the time some site (I think jokewallpaper.com [jokewallpaper.com]) found out that certain PowerBooks were being recalled because they could catch on fire. They took a picture of that Vietnamese monk immolating himself and added the Apple logo and the words "Think different.".

    Apple wasn't happy :-P

    --

  • This is some seriously irresponsible journalism. 1 system caught on fire. That's it. Because of this one system overheating Dell is recalling hundreds of thousands of batteries. We should be applauding a company that is willing to do this without waffleing around like say firestone on thier tires.

    Furthermore it is not completly Dells Fault. These batteries were completely manufactured by another company. Come-on slashdot. Are we trying to do News For nerds or is this site going the way of other journalistic sites where they put up whatever will sell more papers/get more page views.

  • Re:Geez...How old is this article? (Score:3)

    by PirateBek (164098) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:20AM (#248163)
    It was released earlier today for the 5000x series. Earlier Latitude and Inspirons had problems a few months ago.

  • It's a feature, not a flaw. (Score:3)

    by 3seas (184403) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:31AM (#248174) Homepage Journal
    They should just rename it the MI-Laptop. Mission Impossible, this laptop will self-destruct in 10, 9, 8, ...
    3 S.E.A.S - Virtual Interaction Configuration (VIC) - VISION OF VISIONS!

  • Re:lol (5300) (Score:3)

    by sulli (195030) on Thursday May 03 2001, @12:45PM (#248183) Journal
    I still have mine, but did get a G3. There were some awfully tempting trade-in programs a couple of years ago - for whatever reason I failed to participate. Oh well!

  • Re:Please... (Score:3)

    by sonny317 (300865) on Thursday May 03 2001, @10:25AM (#248209)
    To top this off, according to their site [dell.com]:

    "Customers will receive one replacement battery for each battery identified as subject to recall. Upon return of a recalled battery, customers will receive an additional battery at no cost."

    Thats TWO brand spankin new batteries, one upon registering the defective one and one upon receipt of it... I just ordered an Inspiron 8000 two days ago, and service like this make me damn glad I went with Dell.
  • Read up on how the moderation system works... moderation points are given out randomly to any logged-in /. reader. (Except maybe those with negative karma.)

    So saying they're hypocrites is a bit silly, as its impossible to generalize. If you want to complain about anything, complain about how the /. news posters editorialize in their headlines.

    If you really want to see all the "SPORK!" messages, just change your setting to browse at -1 - you'll see everything that's been posted. Me, I'm glad the idiot comments get modded down and the intelligent ones get modded up (I browse at +3)... it makes /. the only message board on the internet that's actually worth reading...
    --
    Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.

  • FIRE! (Score:4)

    by thunderbird46 (315436) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:18AM (#248222) Homepage Journal
    Hehe. The Ford Pinto of notebooks, eh?
  • The article I originally read on yahoo stated that Panasonic was the manufacturer of the batteries, so we can not necessarily blame Dell for this.

    Even so, not *everything* works correctly all the time. If this was the case, we wouldn't have this thing called innovation.

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    w00t w00t raise da r00f!

  • Looks like a job for.....Tech support! (Score:5)

    by cobol4me (444373) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:29AM (#248235)
    Techsupp: 'help ya? Me: My laptop is on fire! Techsupp: Sir? Me: Fire! Fire! The computer just burst into flames! Techsupp: Did you try to reboot Windows? Me: What? I said it's on fire! Techsupp: OK, you need to use Quick Restore then call us ba....[fire engine sirens in the background/screams of pain] Sir! Drop and roll! Drop the laptop and roll on it! Then use the Quick Restore CD!

  • It's all a marketing ploy... (Score:4)

    by highway_girl (447310) on Thursday May 03 2001, @08:26AM (#248236)
    Quote from the home page of dell.com;
    "Notebooks & Desktops
    Harnessing the power of emerging technology for blazing performance, serious multitasking & high productivity."
    ...they're just living up to their claims of *blazing* performance!

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